The Hits Daily Double Thread (Beyoncé: 80-85k)

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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:15 pm

POST-WEAKEND CHART UPDATE: The smoke has cleared, revealing that Michael Buble’s Friday release on Reprise will be #1 by a mile. Our preliminary projection on the Canadian crooner is 125-130k, while KISS’ Wal-Mart exclusive is headed toward 104-105k. The final numbers will magically appear some time tomorrow. (10/12a)
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Postby britneyfan09 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:19 pm

Vanacoring wrote:POST-WEAKEND CHART UPDATE: The smoke has cleared, revealing that Michael Buble’s Friday release on Reprise will be #1 by a mile. Our preliminary projection on the Canadian crooner is 125-130k, while KISS’ Wal-Mart exclusive is headed toward 104-105k. The final numbers will magically appear some time tomorrow. (10/12a)
WOW so Kiss dropped from a prediction of 175k to 104k?
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:23 pm

Yes, big drop for Kiss : firstly predicted around 160-170k, then around 120-130k and now just 100k... :( But, fortunately, Michael Bublé is strong with only three days ! :D
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Postby zhicheng23 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:34 pm

Sales are getting more disappointed! Next year, I reckon #1 debut 50k. :roll: The music industry need do something fast!!
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Postby DaBoi » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:38 pm

NOW IN: 36.20%


LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 KISS KISS RECORDS 47,755
SONIC BOOM
-- 2 TOBY KEITH SHOW DOG 38,527
AMERICAN RIDE
11 3 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 35,995
TIME OF OUR LIVES
-- 4 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 26,341
DOIN' MY THING
-- 5 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 23,793
CRAZY LOVE
-- 6 BEBE & CECE WINANS MALACO 23,169
STILL
6 7 JAY-Z ROC NATION 20,066
BLUEPRINT 3
3 8 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 19,655
MEMOIRS OF AN IMPERFECT ANGEL
4 9 BREAKING BENJAMIN HOLLYWOOD 16,562
DEAR AGONY
20 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 15,208
FEARLESS
8 11 MIRANDA LAMBERT COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 14,952
REVOLUTION
24 12 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 14,519
FOUNDATION
19 13 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 14,277
NUMBER ONES
-- 14 BACKSTREET BOYS JIVE/JLG 13,033
THIS IS US
5 15 ALICE IN CHAINS VIRGIN 12,932
BLACK GIVES WAY TO BLUE
13 16 WHITNEY HOUSTON ARISTA/RMG 12,900
I LOOK TO YOU
1 17 PARAMORE FUELED BY RAMEN 11,245
BRAND NEW EYES
16 18 LYNYRD SKYNYRD ROADRUNNER 11,214
GOD & GUNS
37 19 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 11,189
WIDE OPEN
9 20 SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE HOLLYWOOD 10,573
KISS & TELL
2 21 BARBRA STREISAND COLUMBIA 9,438
LOVE IS THE ANSWER
22 22 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 9,218
ONLY BY THE NIGHT
23 23 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 8,864
E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
42 24 NOW 31 SONY MUSIC 8,191
VARIOUS ARTISTS
34 25 HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE WALT DISNEY 8,186
SOUNDTRACK
44 26 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE 8,087
LADY ANTEBELLUM
15 27 THREE DAYS GRACE JIVE/JLG 8,018
LIFE STARTS NOW
25 28 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 7,501
FAME
43 29 BROOKS & DUNN ARISTA NASHVILLE 7,184
#1S & THEN SOME
-- 30 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 6,692
TWANG
-- 31 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 6,341
DARK HORSE
28 32 MAXWELL COLUMBIA 6,291
BLACKSUMMERS'NIGHT
45 33 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 5,951
LEAVE THIS TOWN
14 34 HARRY CONNICK, JR. COLUMBIA 5,834
YOUR SONGS
49 35 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 5,692
ESSENTIAL
7 36 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 5,627
CELEBRATION
-- 37 NOW COUNTRY 2 SONY MUSIC 5,428
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 38 RELIENT K JIVE/JLG 5,417
FORGET AND NOT SLOW DOWN
-- 39 CHRIS YOUNG RCA NASHVILLE 5,157
THE MAN I WANT TO BE
-- 40 REBA MCENTIRE VALORY 5,037
KEEP ON LOVING YOU
31 41 FRED HAMMOND VERITY/JLG 4,892
LOVE UNSTOPPABLE
40 42 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 4,619
BREAKTHROUGH
-- 43 TOKIO HOTEL CHERRYTREE 4,616
HUMANOID
-- 44 DARIUS RUCKER CAPITOL NASHVILLE 4,567
LEARN TO LIVE
18 45 DRAKE CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 4,493
SO FAR GONE
27 46 MUSE REPRISE 4,386
RESISTANCE
-- 47 RASCAL FLATTS LYRIC STREET 3,820
GREATEST HITS, VOL. 1
50 48 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 3,462
THRILLER
-- 49 SHINEDOWN ATLANTIC 3,398
SOUND OF MADNESS
26 50 BEATLES APPLE/CAPITOL 3,305
ABBEY ROAD
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Postby candyman » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:56 pm

-- 43 TOKIO HOTEL CHERRYTREE 4,616
HUMANOID

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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:58 pm

zhicheng23 wrote:Sales are getting more disappointed! Next year, I reckon #1 debut 50k. :roll: The music industry need do something fast!!
Yes, one thing is easily visible : only one album so far this year is above the 500k mark (Eminem)... :cry:
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Postby marat2408 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:16 pm

-- 14 BACKSTREET BOYS JIVE/JLG 13,033
THIS IS US

Nice. :)
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Postby carlos06 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:32 pm

Vanacoring wrote:
zhicheng23 wrote:Sales are getting more disappointed! Next year, I reckon #1 debut 50k. :roll: The music industry need do something fast!!
Yes, one thing is easily visible : only one album so far this year is above the 500k mark (Eminem)... :cry:
Awful, yeah. Hopefully, Alicia Keys and Lil' Wayne's are gonna be big debuts, I guess.
And maybe...Usher? (?)
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & BARBRA STREISAND celebrating their 9th #1 albums this year. Still making history...
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:34 pm

carlos06 wrote:
Vanacoring wrote:
zhicheng23 wrote:Sales are getting more disappointed! Next year, I reckon #1 debut 50k. :roll: The music industry need do something fast!!
Yes, one thing is easily visible : only one album so far this year is above the 500k mark (Eminem)... :cry:
Awful, yeah. Hopefully, Alicia Keys and Lil' Wayne's are gonna be big debuts, I guess.
And maybe...Usher? (?)
I hope... I predict around 400k for Lil'Wayne and Usher and 500k for Alicia Keys and Michael Jackson.
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Postby SoundWaveV » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:47 pm

Does anyone know how many copies of the Kiss album Walmart ordered? They can't be too happy with that performance if they ordered more 500k
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:49 pm

SoundWaveV wrote:Does anyone know how many copies of the Kiss album Walmart ordered? They can't be too happy with that performance if they ordered more 500k
No idea and I don't find this information... But 500k would be very reasonable. And with a 100k debut, it's possible to reach that.
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Postby SoundWaveV » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:01 pm

Vanacoring wrote:
SoundWaveV wrote:Does anyone know how many copies of the Kiss album Walmart ordered? They can't be too happy with that performance if they ordered more 500k
No idea and I don't find this information... But 500k would be very reasonable. And with a 100k debut, it's possible to reach that.
I got a feeling they ordered more then 500k, though. The promo they did for it was in the realm of AC/DC. I think they ordered 2 million AC/DC cds up front?? I don't think they would do that for Kiss, but 1 million maybe.
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:07 pm

In any case, it's normal if the results of Kiss are not comparable at the results of AC/DC : the two bands are not comparable in terms of popularity at the US. And this album is, with new tracks, a compilation.
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Postby greek_boy » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:22 pm

Ouch! Bad sales :cry:

At least, Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift keep selling decently and steady. :o
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It was over my head
I know nothing at all

And I will stumble and fall
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Just starting to crawl
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Postby SoundWaveV » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:24 pm

Definitely, AC/DC is much much bigger in the US. Unless all the Kiss merchandise that is in Walmart really helps to move CDs in the next few weeks as Halloween gets closer... It may be tough for Kiss to sell 500k.

I don't care much for Sonic Boom, but I was hoping Kiss would get to # 1, they kind of deserve it after 35 years. O' well.
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Postby NothingFails » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:26 pm

I dunno, KISS are huge in America, but not so much as a selling unit. Their tours always do well and they have done well with merchandise, yet surprisingly their albums have never been that huge. I am surprised at least Alive and Destroyer weren't #1 albums in the 70's, or even top 5.
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Postby thebigham » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:30 pm

Vanacoring wrote:
carlos06 wrote:
Vanacoring wrote:
zhicheng23 wrote:Sales are getting more disappointed! Next year, I reckon #1 debut 50k. :roll: The music industry need do something fast!!
Yes, one thing is easily visible : only one album so far this year is above the 500k mark (Eminem)... :cry:
Awful, yeah. Hopefully, Alicia Keys and Lil' Wayne's are gonna be big debuts, I guess.
And maybe...Usher? (?)
I hope... I predict around 400k for Lil'Wayne and Usher and 500k for Alicia Keys and Michael Jackson.
Sigh...

All unrealistic figures. No wonder you are always disappointed!
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Postby NothingFails » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:33 pm

^400k for Lil Wayne shouldn't be that much of a stretch, his last album did open with a million.

I don't think MJ will open with 500k considering it's just a repackaged GH with a few new songs. Number Ones and The Essential have largely filled up the need for a MJ collection in the past few months and I think a lot of people will take to downloading the "new" tracks instead.
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:34 pm

greek_boy wrote:Ouch! Bad sales :cry:

At least, Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift keep selling decently and steady. :o
Yes, the times are hard...
The success of Miley is really impressive : she will be around 600k this week ! :D And, of course, tha amazing Taylor above 4 million before the Deluxe version ! 8-)
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:35 pm

thebigham wrote:
All unrealistic figures. No wonder you are always disappointed!
Why ? You predict how much for these big albums ? Just 200k for Usher and 300k for Alicia Keys ? :-?
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Postby NothingFails » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:43 pm

Vanacoring wrote:
thebigham wrote:
All unrealistic figures. No wonder you are always disappointed!
Why ? You predict how much for these big albums ? Just 200k for Usher and 300k for Alicia Keys ? :-?
Alicia should do huge, but Usher's last album was a huge disappointment compared to Confessions. Unless he comes back with a huge hit along the lines of "Yeah", I don't see his new album outselling Here I Stand.
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Postby DaBoi » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:43 pm

Alicia will move just about 300k debut week
I hope Lil Wayne will do well
I can't predict Michael , could be huge though
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:51 pm

NothingFails wrote:^400k for Lil Wayne shouldn't be that much of a stretch, his last album did open with a million.
Yes, "Tha Carter III" was just enormous, but I think he is already very low in comparison with last year. And the singles are disappointing. And the album is not the event of a new "Carter". So definitely 400k would be very good.
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Postby Vanacoring » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:53 pm

NothingFails wrote:
I don't think MJ will open with 500k considering it's just a repackaged GH with a few new songs. Number Ones and The Essential have largely filled up the need for a MJ collection in the past few months and I think a lot of people will take to downloading the "new" tracks instead.
I agree of course. But the movie will be a massive promo for the album, in particular if it's an enormous success. And I tink all the fans will be present for this first posthumous release during the first days, and I hope the country counts more than 300k fans ! :wink:
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