Rolling Stones top U2 - top grossing tour

by **IceAngel** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:52 am

Is Australia the only country where the attendance numbers for 360 were down compared to the previous tour?

by **Alex2006** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:03 am

Munich / Olympic Stadium
Vertigo Tour
GROSS: $5,343,379 - ATTENDANCE: 77,435 (sellout: 1/1)
360° Tour
GROSS: $7,624,367 - ATTENDANCE: 76,150 (sellout: 1/1)

Dublin / Croke Park
Vertigo Tour
GROSS: $21,163,695 - ATTENDANCE: 246,743 (sellouts: 3/3)
360° Tour
GROSS: $28,815,352 - ATTENDANCE: 243,198 (sellouts: 3/3)

by **Alex2006** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:31 pm

Sydney, Australia : November 10-11, 13, 2006 : Telstra Stadium (=ANZ Stadium) : GROSS $18,538,724 : ATTENDANCE 206,568 : SHOWS 3 : SELLOUTS 3

by **wbarenno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:53 am

http://www.billboard.com/events/hot-tou ... 7302.story

U2's 360° Tour tops the current list of Hot Tours with over $67 million in ticket sales revenue reported from sold out concerts on two continents. Included in this week's tallies are box office grosses from ten concerts held in Australia and New Zealand during November and December as well as the last of two performances in South Africa during February. The 2010 concerts, held at four stadiums in Australia and one in New Zealand drew over half a million fans and grossed $60.9 million (US$) at the box office. The venues were Mt Smart Stadium in Auckland (Nov. 25-26), Melbourne's Etihad Stadium (Dec. 1, 3), Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane (Dec. 8-9), Sydney's ANZ Stadium (Dec. 13-14) and Subiaco Oval in Perth (Dec. 18-19). The South Africa event was held in Cape Town Stadium on Feb. 18 and followed another sold out performance in the country five days earlier in Johannesburg. The 360° Tour will continue later this month with concerts planned for stadiums in Chile, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico before returning to North America in May.
Lady Gaga takes the No. 2 ranking this week with box office stats reported from sold out performances in five U.S. venues during February. New York City's Madison Square Garden hosted the Monster Ball Tour for two performances (Feb. 21-22) with grosses topping $3.2 million from 28,949 sold seats. Single shows were held at Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall (Feb. 19), Verizon Center in Washington, D.C. (Feb. 24), Pittsburgh's CONSOL Energy Center (Feb. 26) and United Center in Chicago (Feb. 28). Ticket sales from all of the February dates topped $9.8 million.
Ranking third is country star Brad Paisley who wrapped his H2O Frozen Over Tour with a final performance in Nashville at Bridgestone Arena on Feb. 26, the last of six dates reported during the past week for the reigning CMA Entertainer of the Year. The sold out Nashville concert grossed $675,234, the top gross total among the six arenas, but the largest crowd came from the Louisville market with 13,890 in attendance at the KFC Yum! Center on Feb. 19.

1 U2 $67,026,336
Nov. 25-Feb. 18
Mt Smart Stadium, Auckland, New Zealand (2/2)
Etihad Stadium, Melbourne, Australia (2/2)
Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane, Australia (2/2)
ANZ Stadium, Sydney, Australia (2/2)
Subiaco Oval, Perth, Australia (2/2)
Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town, South Africa ( 1/1)
572,969 (572,969)

by **wbarenno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:58 am

Once the South American leg has ended which is 1 date in Chile, 3 Dates in Aregentina and 3 dates in Brazil the U2 360 Tour will be the biggest tour of all time , with a full north american leg to go and another europearn leg and asian leg heavily rumoured.

If all dates have been announced and know more dates are added i reckon the tour will do 700 million tops , if dates in europe and Asia are added between 750 -800 million.

by **Mulvanaghty** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:03 pm

Moggio wrote:nucleardolphin,

I think you'll soon realize (if you haven't already), that most of the posters on this forum and even in this thread, are COMPLETELY bias towards their favourite artists, especially U2 fans. These same people will flat out deny compelling evidence clearly showing how and why they're wrong.

The only other thing I have to say, is that this is will be THE last post on this forum I'll be making. This is simply because the NAZI moderator, named SholasBoy, deleted one of my last posts in this thread, when all I did was call Mulvanaghty a **** asshole and a liar - which he is and I've done more than PROVEN that.

MOGGIO,

I thought you would like this assessment done by Cosmokramer over at interference:

Found another interesting quote:

Moggio: "ANYONE who thinks U2 will gross more than $600 million on their 360 tour (based on 90-100 shows AND ONLY because of strategic scheduling), is completely out to lunch."

Well, lets go get some lunch because U2 have already grossed $519 million and once they hit 100 shows, they should be at roughly $650-675 million. Not to mention that he always posted a total show number around 100 because he clearly felt that there was not enough demand for U2 to play more shows then that given their 360 touring set up. So far, there are 110 shows schedules and there are rumors of up to 10-15 more.

Whats really funny about his post is that even if U2 ONLY grossed 600 million, that would still be 6 million per show, which would be the highest per show average in history.

When all is said and done, U2 will own the highest grossing tour, highest grossing tour adjusted for inflation, highest average per show gross, highest average per show gross adjusted for inflation, most attended tour and highest average attendance per show (large scale tour). Some how though, Moggio will try and spin the FACTS and say that even though U2 own all those records (by a wide margin mind you) they still aren't the biggest draw because....blah....blah...blah....

If you look back through his posts over the past few years, he writes that U2 aren't the biggest draw and that the Stones, Madonna, Pick Floyd (dont exist) are bigger. The odd thing is, while THAT message has been consistent, he has changed his predictions for the tour gross for 360.

So, he initial thought U2 360 would gross $450 million and that this is why U2 is not the biggest draw.

Then he thought U2 360 would gross $600 million and that this is why U2 is not the biggest draw (so apparently a 33% increase in total gross didn't impress him).

Then he thought U2 360 would gross no more then $700 million and that is why U2 is not the biggest draw (again, a 56% higher gross than he thought they were capable of still didn't impress him).

Then he thought U2 360 would gross no more then $750 million and that is why U2 is not the biggest draw (now 67% higher still doesn't impress...lol)

Unfortunately, he has left the message board but not it appears that U2, should they add the strongly rumored 10-15 date final leg) would gross close to $850 million. Some how though I feel he would still not be impressed by the fact that he severely underestimated U2's world wide demand.

The thing is, if you asked me three years ago, I would have said that U2 would gross $450-$500 million TOPS (just like he did). However, like most non-biased people, I can admit that my expectations were blown away by what U2 have accomplished. I never thought they would be able to play to as many people all over the world as they have!

Also, a very interesting thread here:

http://u2.interference.com/f225/u2-360- ... 248-7.html

by **Mulvanaghty** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Here is another interesting qoute from MOGGIO about U2's 360 tour:

Also, I NEVER said that even if the 360 tour grosses $1 Billion that it wouldn’t top The Stones. If it grossed that, of course it would. If it grossed $800 million, it would too.

Well, if U2 adds 10 or 12 shows in Europe in 2011 to finish out the tour, it will easily gross $800 million!

http://u2.interference.com/f225/u2-360- ... 248-9.html

by **ShaneO** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:14 pm

Mulvanaghty wrote:
Moggio wrote:nucleardolphin,

I think you'll soon realize (if you haven't already), that most of the posters on this forum and even in this thread, are COMPLETELY bias towards their favourite artists, especially U2 fans. These same people will flat out deny compelling evidence clearly showing how and why they're wrong.

The only other thing I have to say, is that this is will be THE last post on this forum I'll be making. This is simply because the NAZI moderator, named SholasBoy, deleted one of my last posts in this thread, when all I did was call Mulvanaghty a **** asshole and a liar - which he is and I've done more than PROVEN that.
MOGGIO,

I thought you would like this assessment done by Cosmokramer over at interference:

If you look back through his posts over the past few years, he writes that U2 aren't the biggest draw and that the Stones, Madonna, Pick Floyd (dont exist) are bigger. The odd thing is, while THAT message has been consistent, he has changed his predictions for the tour gross for 360.

The thing is, if you asked me three years ago, I would have said that U2 would gross $450-$500 million TOPS (just like he did). However, like most non-biased people, I can admit that my expectations were blown away by what U2 have accomplished. I never thought they would be able to play to as many people all over the world as they have!

Well reading through some of the links provided and this thread I can't even say he was consistent about the biggest draw. It seems to have started with Madonna, then it went to AC/DC, then it went to the Stones and it seems to now be with Pink Floyd. Either he felt they are/were all bigger draws or U2 kept moving up his list :roll:

I will have to admit that even I thought U2 would gross about 500 million with this tour and that would have been amazing. However, I am blown away with the current results. Its pretty cool that they can play to 84k in NY, 97k in LA, 96k in Paris, 82k in Greece, 93k in Spain, 80+k in the UK, 60k in Russia and 94k in a place like South Africa. I would also imagine some of the Canadian dates this year will come close to 90/95k as well as the Mexican dates. I never thought they would be able to draw these types of numbers (PopMart still in my head) but I am a believer now).

If they do not add another date to this tour, I would say they will end out with a final gross of between $725-750 million. If they end up adding mini-Europe and Asian dates, then I would think the tour will end out with roughly $825-$875 million. Now if only they can add one last big leg to push them to a billion :lol:

by **spooky** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:14 pm

Here's an update. These are all records:

August 6, 2010
Turin Italy
Stadio Olimpico di Torino
GROSS: $3,944,452 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 42,441 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $92.94

August 10, 2010
Frankfurt Germany
Commerzbank-Arena
GROSS: $5,544,868
ATTENDANCE: 53,825 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.02

August 20-21, 2010
Helsinki Finland
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $10,642,517 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 106,360 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $100.06

August 25, 2010
Moscow Russia
Luzhniki Grand Sports Arena
GROSS: $7,986,534 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 60,496 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $132.02

August 30, 2010
Vienna Austria
Ernst-Happel-Stadion
GROSS: $6,866,065 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 69,253 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $99.15

September 3, 2010
Athens Greece
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $7,321,356
ATTENDANCE: 82,662 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $88.57

September 6, 2010
Istanbul Turkey
Atatürk Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $3,775,662 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 54,278 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $69.56

September 11-12, 2010
Zurich Switzerland
Letzigrund Stadium
GROSS: $9,152,209 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 90,349 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $101.30

September 15, 2010
Munich Germany
Olympiastadion
GROSS: $7,624,367 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 76,150
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $100.12

September 22-23, 2010
Brussels Belgium
King Baudouin Stadium
GROSS: $15,074,746 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 144,338 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $104.44

September 26, 2010
San Sebastián Spain
Estadio de Anoeta
GROSS: $4,956,464 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 47,721 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.86

September 30, 2010
Seville Spain
Estadio Olímpico de Sevilla
GROSS: $7,519,534 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 76,159 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $98.74

October 2-3, 2010
Coimbra Portugal
Estádio Cidade de Coimbra
GROSS: $9,925,611 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 109,985 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $90.25

October 8, 2010
Rome Italy
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $8,215,742 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 75,847 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $108.32

November 25-26, 2010
Auckland New Zealand
Mt Smart Stadium
GROSS: $8,819,418 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 93,519 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $94.31

December 18-19, 2010
Perth Australia
Subiaco Oval
GROSS: $13,910,989 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 108,706 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $127.97

February 13, 2011
Johanessburg South Africa
Soccer City Stadium
GROSS: $9,433,051 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 94,232 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $100.11

February 18, 2011
Cape Town South Africa
Cape Town Stadium
GROSS: $6,107,754 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 72,532 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $84.21

by **spooky** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:32 pm

I have a strong feeling that U2 actually might be the top grossing draw of 2010. We all know that Pollstar used estimations for the Australian leg. These estimations turned out to be way too low.
Here's what U2 actually grossed in 2010:

GROSS: $192,420,949
ATTENDANCE: 1,813,221
SHOWS: 32

Here's what U2 grossed according to Pollstars estimations:

GROSS: $160,900,000
ATTENDANCE: 1,606,269
SHOWS: 32

Here's what Bon Jovi grossed according to Pollstar:

GROSS: $201,100,000
ATTENDANCE: 1,909,234
SHOWS: 80

I'm quite sure that Pollstar also used estimations for Bon Jovi's Australian/Asian tour. Only 2 figures from this leg were available on Pollstars Top Boxscore Year End Chart.

Here's what Bon Jovi did in Australia/New Zealand/Japan according to Pollstars estimations:

Total Gross: $54.592.612
Total Attendance: 318.080
Average Gross: $4.962.965
Average Attendance: 28.916
Shows: 11
Average Ticket Price: $172

To be honest, this seems to be a little to high. How can they generate an average ticket price of $172, when the rest of the tour had an average ticket price of $92?

I think if we'll ever get any boxscores from December 2010, Bon Jovi might turn out to have grossed less than $192,420,949.

LAST.FM · by **Jonathan** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:12 pm

Don't try to re-write the history.

Bon Jovi was the top touring act of 2010 8-)

by **spooky** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:11 pm

I wouldn't be too sure about it, considering that Bon Jovi Australian/NZ figures are only Pollstar estimations and it's just a difference of $7,500,000.

But I don't think they wll release these boxscores. We'll find out in December when Billboards Year End totals will be available.

by **wbarenno** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:04 pm

jkkdark wrote:Don't try to re-write the history.

Bon Jovi was the top touring act of 2010

Can you imagine if u2 had played 80 shows last year they would have blew Bon jovi out of the water in fact even If they played 40 shows half what Bon jovi did then u2 would have out grossed and played to more people

If the USA leg wasn't canceled u2 would have been way out top

To me those facts and figures just prove even more how much bigger u2 are to Bon bloody jovi

by **Mulvanaghty** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:12 pm

jkkdark wrote:Don't try to re-write the history.

Bon Jovi was the top touring act of 2010

Well, even if that were technically so, which it now it appears it wasn't, its only because U2 played relatively few shows during the year do to Bono's back injury.

Take almost any city or market in the world, and U2 for most part would crush Bon Jovi in ticket sales.

By the way, when was the last time Bon Jovi played a stadium west of the Mississipi River or south of the Mason Dixon Line?

LAST.FM · by **Jonathan** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:56 am

U2 is currently selling more tickets because they only had 3 tours since 2000.

While Bon Jovi toured every year, except 2004. The fans are tired probably.
After the hiatus Bon Jovi will be in high demand and the next tour will be a monster success, in the same level as the "U2 360° Tour" and "A Bigger Bang Tour".

by **Alex2006** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:56 am

jkkdark wrote:The fans are tired probably.

Sure with such a band! :lol:

by **spooky** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:12 pm

And I'm tired of going over this again, so I'm just going to copy my older post about Bon Jovi touring more than U2:

U2 360° Tour (2009-2011) will gross MORE than Lost Highway, The Circle, Bon Jovi Live 2011 (2008 – 2011) COMBINED.

U2 360° Tour in Europe (2009-2010) grossed MORE than Have A Nice Day Tour and the Lost Highway Tour in Europe (2006 – 2008) COMBINED.
+ I'm sure that once we can add the 2011 boxscores, they still would not be able to outgross U2 360° in Europe with three tours combined within 5 years

Since 2005, U2 played stadiums in Europe 3x (2005, 2009, 2010 and maybe 2011), Bon Jovi also 3x (2006, 2008, 2011) – Bon Jovi does NOT tour Europe more than U2.

Since 2005, U2 played MASSIVE Stadium shows in Latin America 2x (2006, 2011), Bon Jovi played stadiums ONCE (2010) - Bon Jovi does NOT tour Latin America more than U2.

Since 2005, U2 played MASSIVE stadium shows in Australia/NZ 2x (2006, 2010), Bon Jovi 3 ARENA shows and 2 SMALL stadium shows in 2008 and stadiums in 2010 - Bon Jovi does NOT tour Australia/NZ more than U2.

The only market where Bon Jovi tours frequently is the US, but that’s on an arena level anyway.
+ U2 played MASSIVE stadium shows NATIONWIDE 2x (2009, 2011), Bon Jovi can't do that.

There is absolutely NO DOUBT about the fact that Bon Jovi is NOT as successful as U2, Madonna and The Rolling Stones.

by **ShaneO** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:05 pm

While Bon Jovi is not in the elite group of touring artists, I have to say they exceeded my expectations and if the Circle Tour ends out with 300 million, I would say they have moved up a tier. Im imposed by what they have accomplished, especially touring so frequently. Long live the 80's ...lol(u2, Madonna, Jovi, the Boss).

by **HUR** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:22 pm

I hope Moggio gets back, to be honest. He left because he felt he was being censored by one moderator, which isn't a nice thing. I had my moments with him and argued a lot, but it would be good to have him back.

Alex2006 wrote:
jkkdark wrote:The fans are tired probably.
Sure with such a band!

Bon Jovi a very good band. Not better than U2, but their instrumentalists are all more capable than U2's, without any doubt. That is something. They are a bit ordinary at times, but they are good for what they do.

by **wbarenno** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:45 pm

jkkdark wrote:After the hiatus Bon Jovi will be in high demand and the next tour will be a monster success, in the same level as the "U2 360° Tour" and "A Bigger Bang Tour".

Thats the worst comment ive ever read on a forum.

The day Bon Bloody Jovi grosses over 500 million dollers is the day hell freezes over.

by **Mulvanaghty** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:13 pm

jkkdark wrote:U2 is currently selling more tickets because they only had 3 tours since 2000.

While Bon Jovi toured every year, except 2004. The fans are tired probably.
After the hiatus Bon Jovi will be in high demand and the next tour will be a monster success, in the same level as the "U2 360° Tour" and "A Bigger Bang Tour".

Bon Jovi DOES NOT play the same markets every year. They skip markets each time they tour, so the whole idea that the "Fans are getting tired from constant touring" is a false one.

Again, can you name any stadiums Bon Jovi has played west of the Mississippi River and south of the Mason Dixon Line, in the USA, at any time in their career?

Very few artist have ever done a global stadium tour like U2 is doing, and NO ONE, has ever done a global stadium tour in 360, which requires the artist to be able to sell 15% to 20% more tickets than usual.

by **Mulvanaghty** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:19 pm

HUR wrote:I hope Moggio gets back, to be honest. He left because he felt he was being censored by one moderator, which isn't a nice thing. I had my moments with him and argued a lot, but it would be good to have him back.

Alex2006 wrote:
jkkdark wrote:The fans are tired probably.
Sure with such a band!
Bon Jovi a very good band. Not better than U2, but their instrumentalists are all more capable than U2's, without any doubt. That is something. They are a bit ordinary at times, but they are good for what they do.

Thats what MOGGIO told everyone. The real reason he left was because he could no longer defend his claims about U2, the Rolling Stones, and Madonna. With U2 now being able to approach the $800 million mark in gross, that figure is more than all of Madonna's past four tours combined. So his claim that Madonna is the hottest concert attraction can no longer hold up even with his past excuses.

The Stones will have a hard time topping U2's 360 even if it is their last tour. There have also been some indications that they may in fact abandon doing stadium shows which cast further doubt about their ability to outgross U2 on the next tour.

Finally MOGGIO was already qouted as saying that if U2 were able to gross $800 million on this tour, even he would admit they were bigger than Madonna, the Stones or anyone else. Of course, he would state that would never happen though, but now that he realizes it will, he does not want to be around to admit it.

LAST.FM · by **Jonathan** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:44 pm

The arguments are invalid.

Clearly some of you are huge U2 fans and think they are bigger than Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, Queen, etc, no matter what anyone says.

by **jimmypages59** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:56 pm

The arguments are invalid.

Clearly some of you are huge U2 fans and think they are bigger than Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, Queen, etc, no matter what anyone says.

No, the argument is that they are the largest touring act and there really is no argument from what I can see, at present they are.

I don't think anyone is trying to intimate that U2 are more successful, more influential, bigger than any act as a whole, just from a touring perspective.

Incidentaly, they are far more successful, more influential and bigger than Bon Jovi, no logical human being (probably excludes yourself, then) would argue against this. U2 might not be my favourite band but I can appreciate that they are probably the only band of the last 30 years, that has risen in stature enough, to be thought of in the Premier League of bands, amongst such bands as Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones and Queen, The Beatles being on their own platform, above anybody.

by **Mulvanaghty** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:40 pm

jkkdark wrote:The arguments are invalid.

Clearly some of you are huge U2 fans and think they are bigger than Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, Queen, etc, no matter what anyone says.

Were just looking at the factual statistics which show that the 360 tour will end up having a gross that is several times greater than anything Bon Jovi has ever done.

The only people who would twist and contort themselves in order to try to explain away such basic facts are those that are big fans of another artist like Bon Jovi who for someone reason can't stand or respect the basic facts of what U2 has done.

Let me ask you this again:

When was the last time Bon Jovi played a Stadium in the United States that was west of the Mississippi River or south of the Mason Dixon Line?