VH1 100 Greatest Women in Rock & Roll (2012)

by **TIfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:38 am

Well here we go. Since VH1 treated women like crap during their "Greatest Artist" list, they did a list full of woman. The list will start Feb 12th I believe. I guess there a #1 spot battle between Madonna and Aretha. Hopefully Whitney, Tina, Janet, Etta, and Beyonce make it high on the list. What do you guys think?

last.fm/hugom2c · by **hugo** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:58 am

1999's list

100 Erykah Badu
99 Talking Heads
98 Kim Deal
97 Lucinda Williams
96 Siouxsie and the Banshees
95 Olivia Newton-John
94 Liz Phair
93 Peggy Lee
92 Natalie Cole
91 Kim Gordon
90 Ani DiFranco
89 Eartha Kitt
88 Sheila E.
87 Nico
86 Laurie Anderson
85 Petula Clark
84 Yoko Ono
83 Salt-N-Pepa
82 Grace Jones
81 Gloria Estefan
80 Big Mama Thornton
79 The Indigo Girls
78 Mahalia Jackson
77 Janet Jackson
76 The Go-Go's
75 Exene Cervenka
74 Anita Baker
73 Tammy Wynette
72 Queen Latifah
71 Tori Amos
70 ABBA
69 Sarah McLachlan
68 Hole
67 The Ronettes
66 Sade
65 Loretta Lynn
64 The Shirelles
63 Christine McVie
62 Lena Horne
61 Whitney Houston
60 Ruth Brown
59 Joan Armatrading
58 Cyndi Lauper
57 Mavis Staples
56 Martha & the Vandellas
55 PJ Harvey
54 Tracy Chapman
53 Alanis Morissette
52 Laura Nyro
51 Bette Midler
50 Sarah Vaughan
49 Melissa Etheridge
48 Dinah Washington
47 The B-52's
46 Kate Bush
45 Roberta Flack
44 Sheryl Crow
43 Cher
42 Dionne Warwick
41 Patti Labelle
40 Heart
39 Pat Benatar
38 Diana Ross
37 Donna Summer
36 Björk
35 Sinéad O'Connor
34 Dolly Parton
33 k.d. lang
32 Joan Jett
31 Barbra Streisand
30 Rickie Lee Jones
29 Karen Carpenter
28 Carly Simon
27 Joan Baez
26 Bessie Smith
25 Marianne Faithfull
24 Dusty Springfield
23 The Mamas & The Papas
22 Emmylou Harris
21 Linda Ronstadt
20 Grace Slick
19 Etta James
18 Gladys Knight
17 Chaka Khan
16 The Supremes
15 Patti Smith
14 Stevie Nicks
13 Ella Fitzgerald
12 Debbie Harry
11 Patsy Cline
10 Carole King
9 Annie Lennox
8 Madonna
7 Chrissie Hynde
6 Billie Holiday
5 Joni Mitchell
4 Bonnie Raitt
3 Janis Joplin
2 Tina Turner
1 Aretha Franklin

Surprisingly there is no Mariah Carey

by **Wayne** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:04 pm

Well there wouldn't be on a rock list. Mariah didn't do rock music [but then neither did the majority of that top 100]!

I hate how these countdowns have NOTHING to do with rock, or a/the rock era - just do a greatest female artists countdown, and nothing more.

I remember recently voting for Celine in three separate VH1 lists - rock wasn't one of them [I think one was the greatest females of the 90's, one greatest females ever and I can't remember the third].

by **GetBack** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:20 pm

So glad for Bonnie Raitt!

by **CrazyCrazy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:32 pm

Are there really not enough proper rock females that they have to add loads of non-rock females into that list?

by **summer** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:41 pm

04wayne wrote:I hate how these countdowns have NOTHING to do with rock, or a/the rock era - just do a greatest female artists countdown, and nothing more.

by **TIfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:52 pm

Rock&Roll basically means during the beginning of the Billboard Hot 100 era to now. So Ella, Billie, and others should not be included. I think...

Tina
Whitney
Janet
Heart
Pat Benatar
Glady's Knight
Beyonce
Alicia Keys
..... all deserve top ten.
I already know Madonna and Aretha will make top 10, probably top 2 although I disagree with Madonna being so high.

by **CrazyCrazy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:54 pm

TIfan wrote:Whitney
Janet
Beyonce
Alicia Keys
..... all deserve top ten.
I already know Madonna and Aretha will make top 10, probably top 2 although I disagree with Madonna being so high.

All of these women I've quoted...why do they deserve to be placed in a top 100 greatest "rock" list? I really don't think any of them are rock...or am I missing something? :-?

by **TIfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:02 pm

Its not Rock music. Rock & Roll first of all came from R&B and they don't mean Rock artist, they mean the rock era of music which is the 50s-now.

by **CrazyCrazy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:06 pm

Yeah I did get the gist of that but I feel this list should represent females in the Rock genre really...not some rnb divas...

by **Wayne** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:14 pm

It shouldn't be called in "Rock & Roll" - VH1 should just rename it the Billboard era or something. 75% of that list haven't touched "Rock & Roll" in their lives.

by **TIfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:19 pm

Rolling-stone does the same thing when they make a greatest of all list. These list makes artist like Sinatra, Holiday, Crosby, Fitzgerald, and many other become forgettable. Holiday is probably the most influential female artist in American History. But Aretha always gets the credit. Madonna is a legend but she said herself that she will be sexual just to sell records. I mean she did keep it real but there are women who take music serious and will not do whatever it takes to stay relavent (no disrespect). Diana Ross, although not as talented as some of the ladies, she changed music and had success that paved the way for Janet, Madonna, Michael, Beyonce, and Whitney but yet she always ranks so low or she's not making the list period. She hasn't even been inducted in the Rock of Fame as a solo artist.I forgot about her. Here's my top ten.... for rock&roll era. In terms of influence, originality, work ethic, talent, Performances, style, and success (small factor).

1. Heart
2. Diana Ross
3. Aretha Franklin
4. Tina Turner
5. Pat Benatar
6. Madonna
7. Whitney Houston
8. Beyonce
9. Glady's Knight
10. Alicia Keys

I know this list is somewhat bad but I just went from the top of my head and it brings something different then what we've been getting lol.

by **CrazyCrazy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:20 pm

04wayne wrote:It shouldn't be called in "Rock & Roll" - VH1 should just rename it the Billboard era or something. 75% of that list haven't touched "Rock & Roll" in their lives.

That's what I was saying!! The title of the list is misleading. Janet, Whitney, Beyonce...rock? please? They obviously do not know what rock is...

by **TIfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:24 pm

Janet had a rock hit and a rock Grammy nod. Its been called that for years. Look at Rock&Roll is a combination of gospel, soul, and blues, and everthing. When you say rock, you thinking about Queen, Led Z. and others. 2 different things.

by **biscuits** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:26 pm

crazycrazy wrote:
04wayne wrote:It shouldn't be called in "Rock & Roll" - VH1 should just rename it the Billboard era or something. 75% of that list haven't touched "Rock & Roll" in their lives.
That's what I was saying!! The title of the list is misleading. Janet, Whitney, Beyonce...rock? please? They obviously do not know what rock is...

Why are you picking on them when Madonna is in the top 10 of the 1999 list?

by **CrazyCrazy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:30 pm

biscuits wrote:
crazycrazy wrote:
04wayne wrote:It shouldn't be called in "Rock & Roll" - VH1 should just rename it the Billboard era or something. 75% of that list haven't touched "Rock & Roll" in their lives.
That's what I was saying!! The title of the list is misleading. Janet, Whitney, Beyonce...rock? please? They obviously do not know what rock is...
Why are you picking on them when Madonna is in the top 10 of the 1999 list?

Oh I forgot to put Madonna in that particular post, I did quote her earlier fyi! :wink:

I'm not picking on anyone...

last.fm/hugom2c · by **hugo** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:06 pm

The new list is called "Greatest Female Artists Of All Time"

by **HolidayGuy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:23 pm

Isn't it titled "100 Greatest Women in Music"?

Judging by the fan voting thing at VH1, legends from pre-1990 won't be appearing. Bound to be some funbky choices in there, as 100 slots is a lot to fill for 1990-present.

Mimi Carey has never been as acclaimed as some, so her omission from the 1999 list wasn't too surprising.

Madonna has enjoyed much acclaim, so of course she'd place high on the last list.

I'd think this list was compiled in the same manner as the 100 Greatest Artists lists and the initial 100 Greatest Women (meaning, VH1 staffers did not vote themselves).

by **CrazyCrazy** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:34 pm

I just noticed Yoko was on the list!!!

That is one lady that deserves to be recognised both for her music and controversial status.

Fan voting is also a no go, that is a stan magnet! :lol:

last.fm/hugom2c · by **hugo** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:35 pm

crazycrazy wrote:Fan voting is also a no go, that is a stan magnet!

The list is done, votes won't count :wink:

by **NothingFails** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:05 pm

But in honestly, how do you decide what fits "rock" and not. I remember a few years ago, Rolling Stone did a list of the 100 greatest voices in rock. People like Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin and Etta James yet Celine Dion, Frank Sinatra and Barbra Streisand didn't. A few issues later when responding to people asking why those latter three didn't make the list, they responded with this list was for ROCK vocalists and that Celine, Frank and Babs have great voices, but "they don't rock". Yet Ray and Etta did? Hell, Barbra actually did flirt with rock in the early 1970's with the Barbra Joan Streisand album, more "rock" than anything Ray Charles or Etta James did in their career, but yet somehow they qualify as rock and she didn't? I don't follow.

by **TIfan** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:52 pm

Lady's and gents, the worst list ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adele, and Gaga do not deserve top 50, let alone top 5.

by **Eamon** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:57 pm

100. Pussycat Dolls
99. Demi Lovato
98. Ashanti
97. Grace Potter
96. Mandy Moore
95. Wilson Phillips
94. Colbie Caillat
93. Feist
92. Jordin Sparks
91. Monica
90. Regina Spektor
89. Hillary Scott (Lady Antebellum)
88. SWV
87. Robyn
86. Ingrid Michaelson
85. Faith Evans
84. Avril Lavigne
83. Meg White
82. Miley Cyrus
81. Spice Girls
80. Sara Bareilles
79. PJ Harvey
78. Kim Gordon (Sonic Youth)
77. Hayley Williams (Paramore)
76. Leona Lewis
75. Kim Deal (The Breeders, The Pixies)
74. Paula Abdul
73. Dido
72. Brandy
71. Natalie Merchant
70. Macy Gray
69. Courtney Love
68. Indigo Girls
67. M.I.A.
66. Natasha Bedingfield
65. Liz Phair
64. Eve
63. Jill Scott
62. Leann Rimes
61. Shirley Manson (Garbage)
60. Florence + The Machine
59. Destiny’s Child
58. Miranda Lambert
57. Ke$ha
56. Gloria Estefan
55. Fiona Apple
54. Tori Amos
53. Sarah McLachlan
52. En Vogue
51. Nelly Furtado
50. Lauryn Hill
49. Amy Lee (Evanescence)
48. Aaliyah
47. Kylie Minogue
46. Toni Braxton
45. Lil’ Kim
44. Erykah Badu
43. Taylor Swift
42. Melissa Etheridge
41. Jewel
40. Nicki Minaj
39. Dixie Chicks
38. Salt N Pepa
37. Faith Hill
36. Shakira
35. Shania Twain
34. Queen Latifah
33. Norah Jones
32. Fantasia
31. Cher
30. Sade
29. Bjork
28. k.d. Lang
27. Fergie
26. Amy Winehouse
25. Sheryl Crow
24. Jennifer Hudson
23. Carrie Underwood
22. Annie Lennox
21. Celine Dion
20. Rihanna
19. Kelly Clarkson
18. Missy Elliott
17. Katy Perry
16. Jennifer Lopez
15. Alanis Morissette
14. Alicia Keys
13. Gwen Stefani
12. TLC
11. Britney Spears
10. P!nk
09. Mary J. Blige
08. Christina Aguilera
07. Janet Jackson
06. Whitney Houston
05. Adele
04. Lady Gaga
03. Beyoncé
02. Mariah Carey
01. Madonna

by **TheRealest** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:58 pm

Gaga and Adele before Whitney and Janet? Beyonce shouldn't be before Whitney either.

by **Eamon** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:59 pm

Adele is the one I can't get over. Celine way too low as well.