Billboard allow old songs to re-chart (Included Xmas songs)

Website · by **Cactuar** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:47 am

Yay it's going to be like the UK charts!

Next I hope they remove airplay and leave that in a separate chart so ridiculous spins of dated hits don't affect the charts.

by **leoapp** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:51 am

Cactuar wrote:Yay it's going to be like the UK charts! Next I hope they remove airplay and leave that in a separate chart so ridiculous spins of dated hits don't affect the charts.

Noooo, if airplay point is separated the chart won't be exciting anymore. I think when we want a certain song to hit #1 with very tight airplay and sales competition within top 3 for example, it's very exciting to predict who will win!
Like, OMG, i think it'll hit #2, not #1. No it'll hit #1 for sure. That's what Billboard Hot 100 is!!!

by **TheRealest** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:03 am

Good for Whitney... even though she can't enjoy it. :cry:

by **Poop123** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:41 am

So that means Whitney "IWALU" have the potientiel to dethrone WBT or even OSD!!!

by **MrRager** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:04 am

04wayne wrote:In two minds - I think that its important for charts to remain current. And reflect current taste, and not artificial interest - such as after a famous death.

However, I take great joy in knowing that some great songs will now gain new peaks on the hot 100, or just re-enter.

I wonder why Billboard changed the rule. Probably a lot to do with Whitney's death.

Finally they got something right. I think its a great idea. If songs can chart on Sales only and minimal AirPlay .. Be that an ancient song or a brand new song it should be allowed. It would be stupid for a song that could sell 200k one week and have no influence on the Hot 100. The charts will probably be messy from time to time instead of predictable but much more interesting.

by **jszmiles** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:17 am

They should have changed it long time ago, at least after MJ's death.

Shame it's only limited to top 50 as we're going to see many re-entries in first half of the chart and the positions 51-100 will be as boring as they're now (lack of movement)...

But I am glad they've improved the rules. Soon, it will be as UK chart I hope.

by **aaliyahman** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:15 am

I am so glad they have done this. It should have happened much earlier though. If a song sells why shouldn't it be included it is what people buy. It makes sense also as , especially at Christmas, a lot of songs falter on airplay but are Number 1. Wrong. If it's a Christmas song they are buying then it should be there.

by **ForeverYoung** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:18 am

Cool! "All I Want For Christmas Is You" can finally have the high peak it deserves!

by **stevyy** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:08 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:Cool! "All I Want For Christmas Is You" can finally have the high peak it deserves!

it deserves the #1 position but unfortunately, it will never reach that spot now, 18 years after its release.. but maybe top 25 should be possible.

by **MrRager** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:30 pm

stevyy wrote:
ForeverYoung wrote:Cool! "All I Want For Christmas Is You" can finally have the high peak it deserves!
it deserves the #1 position but unfortunately, it will never reach that spot now, 18 years after its release.. but maybe top 25 should be possible.

It will reach much higher than that! AirPlay for the song reaches around 50 AI I think plus it sells relatively well. It could push for a top 10 in the Hot 100

by **Colin** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:33 pm

Fantastic news. About time, too.

It's just such a shame that it took Whitney Houston's death to make them realize how stupid their chart rules really were.

by **danbarj** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:33 pm

Goldmoney wrote:The Billboard Hot 100 has officially become the UK Singles chart!

Thankfully, it hasn't. You still have to sell enough for the top 50 (otherwise, you don't chart) and airplay is still included (yes!!!). Now, if they were to ever foolishly get rid of airplay (which they won't), then we'll be like the UK Top 40.

In other news, congrats on the re-entries Whitney! Queen, you deserve it!

by **Timmy94** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:40 pm

Still in the UK, songs peak earlier...
In the USA, most songs take a long time: Even leaving out the airplay, **** In Paris, SFTTR and Domino took 3-4 months to reach the top 10 while this is a rare thing in the UK (many songs debut at No. 1 while it's a rare thing in the US)...

by **danbarj** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:07 pm

^^^ Yes, it is! I really love the Billboard charts compared to those around the world!

by **Play** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:48 pm

Songs climbing to #1 or higher peaks later in their chart run is also because US is hell of a big country which means it takes time for a song to spread!

I'd really like to see a Billboard Hot 100 without Airplay points in it.

by **Star** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:53 pm

crazy4bk wrote:
JustBorn wrote:So MJ fans better start buying Smooth Criminal, so we can get the 6th No 1 from the Bad album.
Katy who?

Last FM <3 · by **nickf1** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:17 pm

A bit unfair to do it only now, but that's a good news!

by **WolfSpear** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:22 pm

Play wrote:Songs climbing to #1 or higher peaks later in their chart run is also because US is hell of a big country which means it takes time for a song to spread!

I'd really like to see a Billboard Hot 100 without Airplay points in it.

That's pretty much Digital Songs for you. Physical sales are so low that #1, without airplay or digisales will barely bubble under at that.

by **ShayLaB** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:44 pm

I am glad it has gone.

They have so many completely arbitrary rules and cut offs that the chart often doesn't reflect the popularity of a song or album. In the digital age the speed of distribution is highlighting how daft they can be.

Hopefully they can get rid of the airplay element too.

by **greek_boy** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:52 pm

JSparksFan wrote: Charts serve as a representation of how popular a song is at a point in time and old songs should be eligible to re-chart at any time that they're popular again. Never really understood the rule, anyway.

by **Play** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:08 pm

WolfSpear wrote:
Play wrote:Songs climbing to #1 or higher peaks later in their chart run is also because US is hell of a big country which means it takes time for a song to spread!

I'd really like to see a Billboard Hot 100 without Airplay points in it.
That's pretty much Digital Songs for you. Physical sales are so low that #1, without airplay or digisales will barely bubble under at that.

Well no, I didn't say I wanted to get physical.. just pure sales.

by **NothingFails** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:27 pm

I honestly think in lieu of airplay (which is all payola), Billboard would count YouTube views/last fm scrobbles/Spotify listens and other forms of streaming and the sort to really show what people are choosing to hear as opposed to what programmers are shoving down our ears.

by **NothingFails** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:39 pm

I know some will argue that the singles chart is about what is truly popular, but with Whitney's passing, IWALY is very popular again. Much like when Michael died, songs like Man In The Mirror and Billie Jean were inescapable again. Just because they were "old songs" didn't mean they were any less popular. To be honest, when I look back at 2009, I think of Michael more than Black Eyed Peas.

by **Timmy94** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:08 pm

The question also is if an album track by Taylor Swift or Glee cover which falls off the chart after one week is more popular than a song getting bought a lot and gets airplay despite being released 5 years ago...

by **Titan3510** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:20 am

I think Billboard needs to flesh out this new rule as soon as possible before we end up with a mess.

As cluttery and basic as the Billboard Top 10 has been these last couple of years...

The US Billboard charts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

I don't want to see the Hot 100 turn into the UK charts.

If it does, then I might need to lie down.#Bleak.

8-)