German Chart History

by **wiczynp1** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:42 pm

oh thanx a lot for the information!

by **Indi** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:26 am

The average best new entries week since the top100-singlecharts - based on my own point system:

# Date No. Entries
1 17.02.2012 3
2 13.11.2009 7
3 04.11.2011 8
4 30.01.2009 9
5 13.01.2003 5
6 06.03.2009 11
7 01.12.2006 10
8 30.04.2010 6
9 15.01.2010 1
10 31.03.2003 12
11 16.05.2008 7
12 10.11.2003 9
13 23.01.2009 6
14 03.12.2010 7
15 25.04.2008 8
16 25.12.2009 7
17 19.10.2007 10
18 16.04.2010 4
19 28.10.2011 7
20 26.01.2004 13

by **Indi** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:45 am

another statistic:

Artist with the best average points (5 charts hits or more) - based on my own point system:

1 The Sweet
2 Heintje
3 Lady GaGa
4 ABBA
5 Oliver Onions
6 Danyel Gérard
7 Will Brandes
8 Harpo
9 Billy Vaughn & His Orchestra
10 Unheilig
11 Baccara
12 Shakira
13 Boney M.
14 Milli Vanilli
15 Leona Lewis
16 Pat Boone
17 Goombay Dance Band
18 Penny McLean
19 OneRepublic
20 Rednex
21 Freddy
22 Katy Perry
23 Adele
24 Simon & Garfunkel
25 Middle Of The Road
26 Bernd Spier
27 Rihanna
28 Rocco Granata
29 Spider Murphy Gang
30 Creedence Clearwater Revival
31 Hellberg-Duo
32 Taio Cruz
33 The Beatles
34 Dr. Alban
35 Pussycat
36 Ich + Ich
37 The Black Eyed Peas
38 Silvio Francesco
39 Fugees
40 The KLF
41 Ottawan
42 Falco
43 Inner Circle
44 Jan & Kjeld
45 Margot Eskens
46 George McCrae
47 Bernd Clüver
48 Lys Assia
49 Frankie Goes To Hollywood
50 Roy Black

by **Indi** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:48 am

Artist with the best average top10 points (3 top hits or more) - based on my own point system

1 Billy Vaughn & His Orchestra
2 Dalida
3 Rednex
4 Blue Diamonds
5 Nana Mouskouri
6 Jan & Kjeld
7 Will Brandes
8 Matthias Reim
9 George Baker Selection
10 Bryan Adams
11 Heintje
12 Middle Of The Road
13 Boney M.
14 Oli.P
15 Gerhard Wendland
16 Haddaway
17 Ivo Robic
18 Bernd Spier
19 Chris Andrews
20 Dr. Alban
21 The Sweet
22 Margot Eskens
23 DJ Ötzi
24 Les Humphries Singers
25 Cher
26 Olivia Newton-John
27 Captain Hollywood
28 Roy Black
29 Petula Clark
30 Paul Young
31 Simon & Garfunkel
32 Melanie C
33 Pussycat
34 Heidi Brühl
35 Baccara
36 ABBA
37 George Harrison
38 Oliver Onions
39 Cliff Richard
40 Bernd Clüver

by **Indi** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:59 am

More than 60 percent of their charthits were top10-hits (1957-2011) - only artist with 4 or more charthits.

ARtist top10-songs chart-songs Average
1 Tokio Hotel 8 8 100,0000
2 US5 9 10 90,0000
3 The KLF 5 6 83,3333
4 Creedence Clearwater Revival 9 11 81,8182
5 Mark Medlock 8 10 80,0000
6 Böhse Onkelz 4 5 80,0000
7 The Sweet 16 21 76,1905
8 ABBA 21 28 75,0000
9 Lady GaGa 9 12 75,0000
10 Adel Tawil 3 4 75,0000
10 Bob Moore 3 4 75,0000
10 Bruce Low 3 4 75,0000
10 Dalida 3 4 75,0000
10 Robert Miles 3 4 75,0000
10 Tommy James 3 4 75,0000
16 Milli Vanilli 5 7 71,4286
16 Oliver Onions 5 7 71,4286
16 Taio Cruz 5 7 71,4286
19 No Angels 12 17 70,5882
20 Silvio Francesco 9 13 69,2308
21 Rihanna 17 25 68,0000
22 The Beatles 29 43 67,4419
23 Shakira 10 15 66,6667
24 Frankie Goes To Hollywood 6 9 66,6667
25 Leona Lewis 4 6 66,6667
25 Nancy Sinatra 4 6 66,6667
25 Trio 4 6 66,6667
28 Modern Talking 13 20 65,0000
28 Sarah Connor 13 20 65,0000
30 Freddy 27 42 64,2857
31 Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich 9 14 64,2857
31 T. Rex 9 14 64,2857
33 Katy Perry 7 11 63,6364
33 Monrose 7 11 63,6364
35 The Black Eyed Peas 12 19 63,1579
36 Bro'Sis 5 8 62,5000
36 Pat Boone 5 8 62,5000
38 Stefan Raab 8 13 61,5385
39 Britney Spears 17 28 60,7143

by **Indi** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:17 am

First charts on my database:

01.03.1957

1 Lys Assia Was kann schöner sein
2 Margot Eskens Cindy, oh Cindy
3 Peter Alexander Ich weiß, was dir fehlt
4 Gitta Lind und die Telestars Weißer Holunder
5 Erni Bieler Mauerblümchen (A Sweet Old Fashioned Girl)
6 Freddy Rosalie
7 Freddy und die Dominos Bel Sante
8 Valentinos Hawaiian Band Ich bin wie ein Schiff
9 Bob Martin Und es weht der Wind
10 Peter Alexander Auf der Piazza von Milano

by **manfred** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:32 pm

Hello, I am searching for complete monthly single charts from Automatenmarkt from April 1955 until June 1959. Can somebody help me?
Manfred

by **Indi** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:27 pm

TOP20 "Angel" in the title-list - based on my own point system:

20 The Sweet Lost Angels
19 Lionel Richie Angel
18 Robbie Williams Angels
17 Smokie Wild Wild Angels
16 Eurythmics There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart)
15 No Angels & Donovan / No Angels Atlantis / When The Angels Sing
14 The Glitter Band Angel Face
13 Martin Kesici Angel Of Berlin
12 Scorpions Send Me An Angel
11 Overground Schick mir 'nen Engel
10 Masquerade Guardian Angel
9 Rammstein Engel
8 The Kelly Family An Angel
7 Shaggy feat. Rayvon Angel
6 No Angels There Must Be An Angel
5 Ben feat. Gim Engel
4 Real Life Send Me An Angel
3 Fred Sonnenschein und seine Freunde Ja, wenn wir alle Englein wären
2 Frank Duval & Orchestra Angel Of Mine
1 Bernd Clüver Der kleine Prinz (Ein Engel, der Sehnsucht heißt)

Any requests?

Duets? Groups? Women? Men? Castingartists? ESC? NDW? Buvisco? Moviesongs? 50s? 60s? 70s? 80s? 90s? 00s?

Or something else?

Maybe I can post it here.

Indi

by **bbm54** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:43 pm

A nice chart could be:

The German Top50 of Songs, which carry city names in the title.

by **Indi** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:43 pm

No problem!

50 Christie San Bernadino
49 Jimmy Makulis Nachts in Rom
48 Demis Roussos Schönes Mädchen aus Arcadia
47 Roger Whittaker Albany
46 Baccara The Devil Sent You To Lorado
45 Stephan Remmler Keine Sterne in Athen
44 Simple Minds Ballad Of The Streets (Belfast Child / Mandela Day)
43 Marika Kilius & Hans-Jürgen Bäumler Honeymoon in St. Tropez
42 Goombay Dance Band Eldorado
41 Katja Ebstein Der Stern von Mykonos
40 Peggy March Memories Of Heidelberg
39 Hello New York Groove
38 Donovan Atlantis
37 Suzi Quatro Daytona Demon
36 Al Bano & Romina Power Sharazan
35 Les Humphries Singers Kansas City
34 Wanda Jackson Santo Domingo
33 Wishful Thinking Hiroshima
32 Paper Lace The Night Chicago Died
31 MFSB feat. The Three Degrees TSOP (The Sound Of Philadelphia)
30 Blue Diamonds Wie damals in Paris
29 Peppino di Capri St. Tropez Twist
28 Marika Kilius Wenn die Cowboys träumen / Zwei Indianer aus Winnipeg
27 Modern Talking Atlantis Is Calling (S.O.S. For Love)
26 Sir Douglas Quintet Mendocino
25 Dschinghis Khan Moskau
24 Chris Howland Das hab ich in Paris gelernt
23 UB40 Kingston Town
22 Carmela Corren Eine Rose aus Santa Monica
21 Murray Head One Night In Bangkok
20 Tony Christie (Is This The Way To) Amarillo
19 Vico Torriani Kalkutta liegt am Ganges
18 Club Honolulu Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Honolulu-Strand-Bikini
17 Alphaville Big In Japan
16 Boney M. Belfast
15 Olivia Newton-John & Electric Light Orchestra Xanadu
14 Bruce Springsteen Streets Of Philadelphia
13 Vicky Leandros Theo, wir fahr'n nach Lodz
12 Middle Of The Road Sacramento (A Wonderful Town)
11 ABBA Waterloo
10 The Bee Gees Massachusetts
9 Michael Holm Mendocino
8 Bernd Spier Memphis Tennessee
7 Gottlieb Wendehals Polonäse Blankenese
6 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark Maid Of Orleans (The Waltz Joan Of Arc)
5 ABBA Fernando
4 Scott McKenzie San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair)
3 Wings Mull Of Kintyre
2 Freddy Unter fremden Sternen (Fährt ein weißes Schiff nach Hongkong)
1 Nana Mouskouri Weiße Rosen aus Athen

by **bbm54** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:40 pm

Pretty fine! Except for some cities are countries ^^

Did we already have a ChartRun of Dave Dee & Co?

by **bbm54** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:59 pm

So finally I manage to read through all the 44 Pages of this thread. There are some remarks I want to point out.

1. It would be interesting, if there are well-known Hits, which neither charted in German Single nor Album Charts, but in UK Top40/Billboard

2. I am still missing some charts (Single and Album) from the period 1965 to 1969 (and additionally the Album Charts 7.4.1986, 17.12.1990 and 30.5.1994). If someone could help me, please send me a PM

3. Maybe some of you don't know, that starting from September 1958, the magazine "Automatenmarkt" published an additional Top50 Chart, which was a mixture of record sales and music box charts. Already in August 1958, there was a Top20, with Peter Alexander's "Wunderbares Mädchen" having the Pole Position. The First Number One in a German Top50 can be assigned to Peter kraus' song "Hula baby", which was #1 on the September Top50.
Those Charts were included in the magazine on an extra page of tight paper. The October Charts are missing, but from November on it was an addon in each Automatenmarkt.

4. I read the excerpts of Automatenmarkt-Charts of the years 1954/1955. Generally they are okay, but there are some mistakes regarding the Performers of the songs. Just an example "Sh-Boom" was not performed by "Die drei Jacksons" but by Svend Asmussen. This is evident due to the record label, which was published in the charts.

5. It would be interesting to know a good calculation of points for the Top100, which is not overemphasizing the Top10, but can also moderate the points of long-term Chart-appearances...

Greetings, bbm54

by **beauregard** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:03 pm

bbm54 wrote:So finally I manage to read through all the 44 Pages of this thread. There are some remarks I want to point out.
3. Maybe some of you don't know, that starting from September 1958, the magazine "Automatenmarkt" published an additional Top50 Chart, which was a mixture of record sales and music box charts. Already in August 1958, there was a Top20, with Peter Alexander's "Wunderbares Mädchen" having the Pole Position. The First Number One in a German Top50 can be assigned to Peter kraus' song "Hula baby", which was #1 on the September Top50.
Those Charts were included in the magazine on an extra page of tight paper. The October Charts are missing, but from November on it was an addon in each Automatenmarkt.

4. I read the excerpts of Automatenmarkt-Charts of the years 1954/1955. Generally they are okay, but there are some mistakes regarding the Performers of the songs. Just an example "Sh-Boom" was not performed by "Die drei Jacksons" but by Svend Asmussen. This is evident due to the record label, which was published in the charts.

Greetings, bbm54

Do you have access to these charts?

by **bbm54** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:04 pm

Yes...I have them as a paper copy...

by **FadingLight** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:08 pm

Can someone make an estimation of the top3 sales? Thank you.

by **beauregard** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:23 pm

bbm54 wrote:Yes...I have them as a paper copy...

Do you think you'd be able to share them? I know there's some work in retyping them, but it would be much appreciated...

by **bbm54** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:58 pm

Beauregard, can I ask for a little bit patience?
Generally yes, I hope, that it is okay to do so.

As a teaser the Top10 of September 1958:

1 (4) Peter Kraus - Hula Baby

2 (3) Conny
Maria & Frank Duval - Auch Du hast Dein Schicksal
(Rica Deus & Jo Roland)

3 (8) Freddy - Der Legionär

4 (1) Peter Alexander
(Will Brandes) - Wunderbares Mädchen
(Jo Roland)

5 (2) Margot Eskens & Silvio Francesco
Christa Williams & Jo Roland - Himmelblaue Serenade

6 (5) Billy Vaughn
Ernie Bieler
Die Lilians - Sail along silv'ry moon (Eine Reise ins Glück)
(Karen Chandler)
(William Greihs)
(Leo Leandros)

7 (7) Peter Alexander
Ralf Bendix
(Leo Leandros)
(Danny Marino) - Bambina
(Jo Roland)
(Tony Sandler)
(Marco Amitrano)

8 (20)John Paris - Angelina (Sag es hundertmal)
Rica Deus & Jo Roland

9 (-) Leo Leandros - Hunderttausend Cruzeiros

10 (11) Paul Kuhn - Die Farbe der Liebe
Rolf Jago

In brackets the Top20 position of August 1958

bbm54

by **beauregard** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:29 pm

bbm54 wrote:Beauregard, can I ask for a little bit patience?
Generally yes, I hope, that it is okay to do so.

As a teaser the Top10 of September 1958:

1 (4) Peter Kraus - Hula Baby

2 (3) Conny
Maria & Frank Duval - Auch Du hast Dein Schicksal
(Rica Deus & Jo Roland)

3 (8) Freddy - Der Legionär

4 (1) Peter Alexander
(Will Brandes) - Wunderbares Mädchen
(Jo Roland)

5 (2) Margot Eskens & Silvio Francesco
Christa Williams & Jo Roland - Himmelblaue Serenade

6 (5) Billy Vaughn
Ernie Bieler
Die Lilians - Sail along silv'ry moon (Eine Reise ins Glück)
(Karen Chandler)
(William Greihs)
(Leo Leandros)

7 (7) Peter Alexander
Ralf Bendix
(Leo Leandros)
(Danny Marino) - Bambina
(Jo Roland)
(Tony Sandler)
(Marco Amitrano)

8 (20)John Paris - Angelina (Sag es hundertmal)
Rica Deus & Jo Roland

9 (-) Leo Leandros - Hunderttausend Cruzeiros

10 (11) Paul Kuhn - Die Farbe der Liebe
Rolf Jago

In brackets the Top20 position of August 1958

bbm54

Sure. Thanks for the preview

by **Indi** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:49 am

Maybe we can post here the complete Automatenmarkt-Charts?

Here you can find 1954 & 1955: http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2101388

but where is 53...

In my opinion this charts are not so official, but other members have another opinion about that.

by **Indi** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:52 am

bbm54 wrote:Beauregard, can I ask for a little bit patience?
Generally yes, I hope, that it is okay to do so.

As a teaser the Top10 of September 1958:

1 (4) Peter Kraus - Hula Baby

2 (3) Conny
Maria & Frank Duval - Auch Du hast Dein Schicksal
(Rica Deus & Jo Roland)

3 (8) Freddy - Der Legionär

4 (1) Peter Alexander
(Will Brandes) - Wunderbares Mädchen
(Jo Roland)

5 (2) Margot Eskens & Silvio Francesco
Christa Williams & Jo Roland - Himmelblaue Serenade

6 (5) Billy Vaughn
Ernie Bieler
Die Lilians - Sail along silv'ry moon (Eine Reise ins Glück)
(Karen Chandler)
(William Greihs)
(Leo Leandros)

7 (7) Peter Alexander
Ralf Bendix
(Leo Leandros)
(Danny Marino) - Bambina
(Jo Roland)
(Tony Sandler)
(Marco Amitrano)

8 (20)John Paris - Angelina (Sag es hundertmal)
Rica Deus & Jo Roland

9 (-) Leo Leandros - Hunderttausend Cruzeiros

10 (11) Paul Kuhn - Die Farbe der Liebe
Rolf Jago

In brackets the Top20 position of August 1958

bbm54

@Here are the top10 sales charts published in Musikmarkt:

1 1 17 Orchester Billy Vaughn Sail Along Silvery Moon
2 5 13 Christa Williams & Jo Roland Himmelblaue Serenade
2 5 13 Silvio Francesco und Margot Eskens Himmelblaue Serenade
3 NEU 4 Peter Kraus Hula Baby
4 4 8 Peter Alexander Bambina
5 2 21 Mitch Miller The River Kwai March
6 10 13 Freddy Der Legionär
7 6 8 Ralf Bendix Bambina
8 WE 8 Peter Alexander O Josefin, die Nacht in Napoli
9 NEU 4 Freddy Noch immer allein
10 NEU 4 Peter Alexander Wunderbares Mädchen

by **bbm54** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:54 pm

Here 11-20:

11.(10) Werner Overheidt
Erwin Kruger - Die Story von uns zwein
Gary Miller

12.(9) Jimmy und Lolita - Am Strande von Mindanao

13.(-) Suny Lang - Ich bin verliebt

14.(16) Eddie Constantine - Hoppla Eddie

15.(18) Die Ohayos
Angèle Durand - Chanson d'amour
Art und Dotty Todd

16.(15) Christa Williams und Jo Roland - Oh, das wa r schön

17.(19) Dietmar Schönherr - Du wirst geliebt

18.(13) Peter Alexander - Oh, Josefin, die Nacht in Napoli

19.(-) Angèle Durand
Die Ohayos - 26 Meilen

20.(-) Ria Bieler
Ria Solar - Lollipop
(Alice Babs)
(Gerry Miller)

by **bbm54** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:00 pm

Here 21-30:

21.(-) Lys Assia - Giorgio

22.(12) Mitch Miller Orchester - River Kwai March

23.(-) Billy Mo - Mitternachtsblues
(Zarah Leander)

24.(-) Peter Kraus - Mach Dich schön

25.(-) Die Benicarlos - Blauer Himmel, Weiße Wolken, Grüne Wälder

26.(-) Caterina Valente - Spiel noch einmal für mich, Habanero

27.(-) Bibi Johns - Du wirst bald Kapitän sein

28.(-) Die sieben Wanderer - In der neuen Heimat

29.(-) Die Teddies - Ja-ja, froh sind wir

30.(-) Willy Hagara - Küsst Dich ein Mädchen aus Flandern

by **bbm54** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:05 pm

Here 31-40

31.(-) Ria Solar - Click-Clack

32.(-) Lolita - Mexicano

33.(-) Caterina Valente - Am Golf von Mexico

34.(-) Rodgers Duo - Die schwarze Rose von Oran

35.(-) Fred Bertelmann - Der Gitarrenspieler

36.(-) Nana Gualdi - Mein Herz, mein ganzes Leben

37.(-) Die Selveras
Susi und Rolf - Die gelbe Kutsche

38.(-) Eddie Calvert - Little Serenade

39.(-) Gabriele - Vielleicht in 3,4,5,6 Jahren

40.(-) Line Renaud und die Girls - Stundenlang, tagelang, wochenlang

by **bbm54** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:16 pm

Here 41-50:

41.(-) Jörg Maria Berg - Baby, ich schieß' Dir einen Teddybär

42.(-) Teddy Olaf - Peggy-Lu

43.(-) Werner Hass - Oh, eh, oh, ah, ah (Witch Doctor)

44.(14) Chris Howland - Fräulein

45.(-) Bob Vincent
Nina Tscharowa - Frankie, hast du kein Heimweh

46.(-) Fred Bertelmann - Du bist mein guter Engel

47.(-) Caterina Valente - Diu-Du-Du-Dei

48.(-) Die Desperados - Einsam, so einsam...

49.(-) Christa Williams - Chou-Chou-Chou

50.(-) Udo Jürgens - Wir fahren, wir fahren

by **zeus555** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 pm

Indi - Will you please Post as many 'All Time Acts'
Lists', as you can, here? For the German Charts, I
mean?

Singles & Albums Lists - please. (Danke).

Your Lists are the best thing in this Thread.
(No offence to anyone else!).

I find that it is German Album Chart Data that is
not very widespread. Has anyone ever 'converted' the
old Monthly & 2 Weekly German Album Charts into
Weekly ones?

I've seen German Album Chart 'All Time' Points
Lists, but they do not convert the older Charts.
So, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, ABBA, Queen, &
many more Acts, only get 25% to 50% of their Chart
Positions, for the older Charts. And that means that
they also only get 25% to 50% of the Points, for
those Charts, too.

For example, Robbie Williams has a big advantage,
as he has had his German Album Chart success in
the period of the Weekly Charts - so, he loses no
Points.....

Zeus555