Alexandra Burke ft. Erick Morillo - Elephant

[aaliyahman]

I hate to bring race and sex into it, but black women get it worse than any other social group. We in England don't seem to like a confident black woman.

Aye, I wish they'd given Alicia Dixon, Mel B, Leona Lewis, Kelly Holmes and Denise Lewis more exposure over the past 10 years, I'm really annoyed that they've not been well recieved by the public purely because of their skin colour.



Absolutely hilarious the lengths some of you in here are going to in trying to find reasons for her not being liked.

What is absolutely hillarious is that you've grouped together such differing celebrities.

Kelly Holmes and Denise are sports stars; they earn their achievements on the track, the media has hardly anything to do with their career. Fail 1.


Mel B was part of a mixed race (4 white and 1 black) girl group. What was her nickname? Scary. When she went solo she had the initial hype from the group and then look what happened. Her songs were just as good as her contemporaries arguably. Fail 2

Alicia Dixon has had an amazing solo career hasn't she I love the girl but you are blind not to see the stigma on her career, whilst she's on these shows receiving high publicity, she can't get a massive solo hit single.She is primarily a singer after all. Fail 3

I won't get into why Leona is different from Alexandra, although anyone with eyes and ears can understand who fits the stereotype and who doesn't.

[SG1401]

Officially #3 in the charts. Amazing.

So happy it got to number3 it's great considering no radio support!! Although that will orob change now!!

[lenor]

Yes! happy with #3! great!

[djedwardsmith]

What is absolutely hillarious is that you've grouped together such differing celebrities.

Aye. Of course it is. Because seperating them suits your argument. Yet, logically, it serves no purpose. You can't pick and choose celebrities and their careers just because it suits your argument. If so, I'll do the same for you to counter. God, this country is always so kind to our athletes of an ethnic origin.

Kelly Holmes and Denise are sports stars; they earn their achievements on the track, the media has hardly anything to do with their career. Fail 1.

And yet the fact the pair of them are constantly still in the medias eye, after their careers have long finished, entirely negates your already selective logic.

Mel B was part of a mixed race (4 white and 1 black) girl group. What was her nickname? Scary. When she went solo she had the initial hype from the group and then look what happened. Her songs were just as good as her contemporaries arguably. Fail 2

I'm actually sat here, in disbelief, that you're using the fact that she was called 'scary' spice as if it was some sort of slight against her. How big is the chip on your shoulder?

Alicia Dixon has had an amazing solo career hasn't she I love the girl but you are blind not to see the stigma on her career, whilst she's on these shows receiving high publicity, she can't get a massive solo hit single.She is primarily a singer after all. Fail 3

The original post said f**k all about musicians, or how good their singing careers are. It was specifically a blanket statement suggesting that We in England do't seem to like a confident black woman. The several examples I gave which entirely debunked that farcical assumption stand firm to counter the original comment, which made no reference to their careers whatsoever.

I know this is getting off-topic now but I think skin tone is a factor too.

If we look at people who's attitudes have been slated: Jamelia, Estelle, Alexandra Burke, Misha B etc.... they are all dark skinned.

Or Cher Lloyd, Liam Gallagher, Adele, Dappy off the top of my head who've had their attitudes slated who just so happen.....not to be dark skinned.

I'm just genuinely baffled at how some of you can blindly through out such clearly untrue sweeping assumptions that aims to judge the majority of the general public of an entire country, and expect to be taken seriously on the basis that the only person of colour in the spice girls was called Scary

I did read somewhere and do agree to an extent that some people don't tend to like arrogance, at least not when it's unfounded (which, in her, it is). But that is a trait of her personality, not her skin colour, and selectively plucking celebrities that suit your argument but then choosing to ignore those which negate it undermimes the entire argument.

[Noahh]

#3 is quite good. The question now is, will it have longevity...

I'm afraid this'll fall down the charts quickly!

[IrishLamb]

So happy this made top 3 wasn't sure it would. Big drop next week but with a bit more airplay it may stay top 10 please god

[king_oxymoron]

They recapped the top 10 on the Chris Moyles show today.. it wasn't even Chris announcing Alexandra at 3 but he still butted in to say 'No further comment'. This really grinds my gears! Why?! What has she done that is so bad that these DJs (particularly Radio 1) keep making slights against her? Do they know something we don't? Why not celebrate her achievement?

On the flipside, Matt Edmondson (who said in his Piggyback Chat with her that he liked her) responded to me on Twitter when I asked if she was genuinely nice or he was just saying that with 'she is nice!'

EDIT: Sales slightly under where we hoped. 42.3k

[djedwardsmith]

Radio 1 tends to rim most acts tbfh, so I'd hazard that it's a safe guess to assume something has gone on between her and them behinds the scenes to justify their dislike for her.

[arronlei]

In March 2012, Banks and Canadian singer Avril Lavigne were announced as the featured artists on English singer Alexandra Burke's next single, "Okay Dot Com!".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azealia_Banks

[Thriller]

Ah shame she didn't top 50k.

[preyan]

What is absolutely hillarious is that you've grouped together such differing celebrities.

Aye. Of course it is. Because seperating them suits your argument. Yet, logically, it serves no purpose. You can't pick and choose celebrities and their careers just because it suits your argument. If so, I'll do the same for you to counter. God, this country is always so kind to our athletes of an ethnic origin.

Kelly Holmes and Denise are sports stars; they earn their achievements on the track, the media has hardly anything to do with their career. Fail 1.

And yet the fact the pair of them are constantly still in the medias eye, after their careers have long finished, entirely negates your already selective logic.

Mel B was part of a mixed race (4 white and 1 black) girl group. What was her nickname? Scary. When she went solo she had the initial hype from the group and then look what happened. Her songs were just as good as her contemporaries arguably. Fail 2

I'm actually sat here, in disbelief, that you're using the fact that she was called 'scary' spice as if it was some sort of slight against her. How big is the chip on your shoulder?

Alicia Dixon has had an amazing solo career hasn't she I love the girl but you are blind not to see the stigma on her career, whilst she's on these shows receiving high publicity, she can't get a massive solo hit single.She is primarily a singer after all. Fail 3

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The original post said f**k all about musicians, or how good their singing careers are. It was specifically a blanket statement suggesting that We in England do't seem to like a confident black woman. The several examples I gave which entirely debunked that farcical assumption stand firm to counter the original comment, which made no reference to their careers whatsoever.

I know this is getting off-topic now but I think skin tone is a factor too.

If we look at people who's attitudes have been slated: Jamelia, Estelle, Alexandra Burke, Misha B etc.... they are all dark skinned.

Or Cher Lloyd, Liam Gallagher, Adele, Dappy off the top of my head who've had their attitudes slated who just so happen.....not to be dark skinned.

I'm just genuinely baffled at how some of you can blindly through out such clearly untrue sweeping assumptions that aims to judge the majority of the general public of an entire country, and expect to be taken seriously on the basis that the only person of colour in the spice girls was called Scary

I did read somewhere and do agree to an extent that some people don't tend to like arrogance, at least not when it's unfounded (which, in her, it is). But that is a trait of her personality, not her skin colour, and selectively plucking celebrities that suit your argument but then choosing to ignore those which negate it undermimes the entire argument.

I must agree all round with this poster!

[king_oxymoron]

Yet another sarky comment after her play on Scott Mills show today... I just keep hearing her and then something bad about her, so frustrating

EDIT: In good news though I think the radio play is working a bit, it seems to be regaining on the No.10 spot a little, or at least holding steady?

[aaliyahman]

What is absolutely hillarious is that you've grouped together such differing celebrities.

Aye. Of course it is. Because seperating them suits your argument. Yet, logically, it serves no purpose. You can't pick and choose celebrities and their careers just because it suits your argument. If so, I'll do the same for you to counter. God, this country is always so kind to our athletes of an ethnic origin.

Kelly Holmes and Denise are sports stars; they earn their achievements on the track, the media has hardly anything to do with their career. Fail 1.

And yet the fact the pair of them are constantly still in the medias eye, after their careers have long finished, entirely negates your already selective logic.

Mel B was part of a mixed race (4 white and 1 black) girl group. What was her nickname? Scary. When she went solo she had the initial hype from the group and then look what happened. Her songs were just as good as her contemporaries arguably. Fail 2

I'm actually sat here, in disbelief, that you're using the fact that she was called 'scary' spice as if it was some sort of slight against her. How big is the chip on your shoulder?

Alicia Dixon has had an amazing solo career hasn't she I love the girl but you are blind not to see the stigma on her career, whilst she's on these shows receiving high publicity, she can't get a massive solo hit single.She is primarily a singer after all. Fail 3

The original post said f**k all about musicians, or how good their singing careers are. It was specifically a blanket statement suggesting that We in England do't seem to like a confident black woman. The several examples I gave which entirely debunked that farcical assumption stand firm to counter the original comment, which made no reference to their careers whatsoever.

I know this is getting off-topic now but I think skin tone is a factor too.

If we look at people who's attitudes have been slated: Jamelia, Estelle, Alexandra Burke, Misha B etc.... they are all dark skinned.

Or Cher Lloyd, Liam Gallagher, Adele, Dappy off the top of my head who've had their attitudes slated who just so happen.....not to be dark skinned.

I'm just genuinely baffled at how some of you can blindly through out such clearly untrue sweeping assumptions that aims to judge the majority of the general public of an entire country, and expect to be taken seriously on the basis that the only person of colour in the spice girls was called Scary

I did read somewhere and do agree to an extent that some people don't tend to like arrogance, at least not when it's unfounded (which, in her, it is). But that is a trait of her personality, not her skin colour, and selectively plucking celebrities that suit your argument but then choosing to ignore those which negate it undermimes the entire argument.

You chose the people yet they all have obvious distinctions which invalidate your response to the initial argument.Whilst they can all come across as confident, the extent to which the media disliking them differs based on their career, obviously.

As I have said, if you are a sports star at the top of your game, winning awards then you yourself have achieved them. The media doesn't make or break your career as it does with entertainment stars. Regardless of the career after sport, those achievements still stand, achievements which aren't parallelled in the entertainment industry if the media blackballs you.

I don't know why you are swearing, perhaps because you cannot get across your point sufficiently.

The main factor is, for whatever reason, we have few black female icons to follow. I am sure that when the post was made, UKmusiclova meant black females in the entertainment industry.

You've then countered me 'being selective' by being selective yourself by choosing a range of 'white' artists. The difference is, those celebrities are a few in a few thousand whereas black female celebrities are few and far between.

Yes the scary spice thing was a little too far but I remember growing up and seeing how stunning Mel B was and to see her called scary, and then see equally beautiful girls called 'scary' as a direct result did put a chip on my shoulder.

[aaliyahman]

Back to Alexandra, I'm glad she got to #3. I was so confident this was a sure-fire number 1.

Hopefully she can have a steady amount of top 5 hits and ensure her album does well. I'd hate her to have a relative sophomore flop.

[Thriller]

Yes no more argument on the race issue now please, everyone has aired their own opinion so let's leave it there.

[Colin]

Okay.bomb, why did this flooop?

[sweetseven]

Okay.bomb, why did this flooop?

Err, it didn't flop.

It entered the chart at number 3 with almost no radio support. (No support from Capital and Radio 1 only got on board last week).


Still b-listed by Radio 1 for the second week.

[JimJim]

Yet another sarky comment after her play on Scott Mills show today... I just keep hearing her and then something bad about her, so frustrating

Write a complaint to them?

They don't really do it on radio here, all they might say is 'not really feeling that new one from x' or something like that, but it's uncommon.

[king_oxymoron]

I'm almost tempted, there was another incidence on Chris Moyles show where they scrapped playing Alexandra and Chris said 'you all okay with that?', the team cheered and he went 'I thought you might be'. It's just uncalled for. I have no problem with DJs saying they don't like a song, but constantly putting down an act is not fair.

It's down to 13 on iTunes, 11 in the midweeks.

[Plym]

Why don't they like her? Chris Moyles played her today. Scott Mills plays her almost every day.

[Thriller]

I'm almost tempted, there was another incidence on Chris Moyles show where they scrapped playing Alexandra and Chris said 'you all okay with that?', the team cheered and he went 'I thought you might be'. It's just uncalled for. I have no problem with DJs saying they don't like a song, but constantly putting down an act is not fair.

It's down to 13 on iTunes, 11 in the midweeks.

He's always been an ars*hole.

Ouch at the midweek... I'm hoping it'll at least stay top 20 for a third week then seeing as R1 are keeping it B-List again and it looks like a quieter week.

[king_oxymoron]

Wish we knew Chris! Great that they are playing her, just could do without the comments!

As of Thursday, this had done 12.6k (down over 50% on last week), I expect Jay and Kanye will pass her as they were only 1k behind. Jason I'm not sure of (2k behind), think she should stay ahead of Hot Right Now and hit 20k this weekend.

[theArmy]

still jamming at this !! amazing track

[king_oxymoron]

Slipped to 12 in the end... I think it'll get a third week top 20 but in the lower ends.

[Serby]

Slipped to 12 in the end... I think it'll get a third week top 20 but in the lower ends.

So it's kinda underperforming