Justin Bieber :: The "Believe" Era

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Postby Timmy94 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:36 am

I guess his first radio update will be huuuuge because I think every radio channel wants to be first to play his (anticipatedly) new single, right?
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Postby samra » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:42 am

Timmy94 wrote:I guess his first radio update will be huuuuge because I think every radio channel wants to be first to play his (anticipatedly) new single, right?
Yep, for sure. It will be interesting because the first update will show just how much hype there is around the song since there hasn't been news of a Clear Channel deal (or atleast I haven't heard about one) so the update will be purely off the hype and requests. I remember Hold It Against Me got over 20 million on its first day last year w/o a clear channel deal so let's see how Justin will fare.
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Postby arab » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:45 am

JUSTIN BIEBER - Boyfriend: 9.665
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Postby Pmadrid » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:20 pm

samra wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:I guess his first radio update will be huuuuge because I think every radio channel wants to be first to play his (anticipatedly) new single, right?
Yep, for sure. It will be interesting because the first update will show just how much hype there is around the song since there hasn't been news of a Clear Channel deal (or atleast I haven't heard about one) so the update will be purely off the hype and requests. I remember Hold It Against Me got over 20 million on its first day last year w/o a clear channel deal so let's see how Justin will fare.
HIAM got 9.074 million first day with 619 spins on Pop. Justin's first day was even better. :o
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Postby khom09 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Pmadrid wrote:
samra wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:I guess his first radio update will be huuuuge because I think every radio channel wants to be first to play his (anticipatedly) new single, right?
Yep, for sure. It will be interesting because the first update will show just how much hype there is around the song since there hasn't been news of a Clear Channel deal (or atleast I haven't heard about one) so the update will be purely off the hype and requests. I remember Hold It Against Me got over 20 million on its first day last year w/o a clear channel deal so let's see how Justin will fare.
HIAM got 9.074 million first day with 619 spins on Pop. Justin's first day was even better. :o
with 750 spins i guess he also has the deal....
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Postby truthless » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:29 pm

Not everything is made public you know?

He has clearly a radio deal.

Rihanna's Only Girl has had 4,5m AI in the first day, without a radio deal.

Don't act like he was a radio favourite. His singles pretty much flopped there.
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Postby khom09 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:30 pm

truthless wrote:Not everything is made public you know?

He has clearly a radio deal.

Rihanna's Only Girl has had 4,5m AI in the first day, without a radio deal.

Don't act like he was a radio favourite. His singles pretty much flopped there.
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Postby anthonyalex » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:32 pm

arab wrote:JUSTIN BIEBER - Boyfriend: 9.665
:o
Will it be his first radio hit?
Can somebody post his singles' airplay peak?
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Postby danbarj » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:33 pm

We dont know if he has a deal, but that's huge. It could be that radii is on him now since his image has matured.
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Postby samra » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:35 pm

truthless wrote:Not everything is made public you know?

He has clearly a radio deal.

Rihanna's Only Girl has had 4,5m AI in the first day, without a radio deal.

Don't act like he was a radio favourite. His singles pretty much flopped there.
I was under the impression that the deal had to be made public or else it was considered payola.
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Postby khom09 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:37 pm

danbarj wrote:We dont know if he has a deal, but that's huge. It could be that radii is on him now since his image has matured.
Do you think so even Kattys POM first update and wasnt that huge and shes one of the current radio queens, clearly he has the deal.....
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Postby truthless » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:39 pm

samra wrote:
truthless wrote:Not everything is made public you know?

He has clearly a radio deal.

Rihanna's Only Girl has had 4,5m AI in the first day, without a radio deal.

Don't act like he was a radio favourite. His singles pretty much flopped there.
I was under the impression that the deal had to be made public or else it was considered payola.
Since when?

Perry's Part Of Me has had also a deal, but it wasnt made public too. The following week, Part Of Me received a HUGE rolling update loosing more than 8m AI for three days~.

The same thing will happen to the Biebster.
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Postby truthless » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:42 pm

danbarj wrote:We dont know if he has a deal, but that's huge. It could be that radii is on him now since his image has matured.
Oh please...
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Postby danbarj » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:42 pm

Ok, so the deal is just speculation until confirmed. In the meantime, it's huge none the less! Either way...
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Postby samra » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:44 pm

truthless wrote:
samra wrote:
truthless wrote:Not everything is made public you know?

He has clearly a radio deal.

Rihanna's Only Girl has had 4,5m AI in the first day, without a radio deal.

Don't act like he was a radio favourite. His singles pretty much flopped there.
I was under the impression that the deal had to be made public or else it was considered payola.
Since when?

Perry's Part Of Me has had also a deal, but it wasnt made public too. The following week, Part Of Me received a HUGE rolling update loosing more than 8m AI for three days~.

The same thing will happen to the Biebster.
But she got high airplay because of Grammy hype and the fact that she was debuting a brand new song. Then, rolling came along after the hype was gone.

Look, I'm not saying there isn't a deal, we just don't know for sure if there is or isn't. It's all speculation until it's confirmed by someone or something.

EDIT: Damn, Danbarj beat me to it. :lol:
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Postby truthless » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:44 pm

danbarj wrote:Ok, so the deal is just speculation until confirmed. In the meantime, it's huge none the less! Either way...
You ever saw an update with over 9m AI without a deal?

Neither Adele could do that much, considering she never had a radio deal.


But yeah... It doesnt matter.

Nice update.
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Postby danbarj » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:44 pm

I love how his team has never put too much focus on the single success, and has always diverted attention to his albums. I expect 2x P atleast with this album, or maybe 3x P.
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Postby Tansike » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:52 pm

3xP? Never...

I mean... Currently it's really hard to get 3xP and even 2xP will be hard... I mean there are some really big albums (Gaga, Katy, Rihanna,...) which didn't get 3xP (and some no 2xP too) so why should Bieber get 3xP?
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Postby khom09 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:57 pm

Tansike wrote:3xP? Never...

I mean... Currently it's really hard to get 3xP and even 2xP will be hard... I mean there are some really big albums (Gaga, Katy, Rihanna,...) which didn't get 3xP (and some no 2xP too) so why should Bieber get 3xP?
No matter how bad the album is, stupid teenage girls will still buy it..look at how his christmas album perfomed it sold about 1.245m in 2011
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Postby anthonyalex » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:06 pm

khom09 wrote:
Tansike wrote:3xP? Never...

I mean... Currently it's really hard to get 3xP and even 2xP will be hard... I mean there are some really big albums (Gaga, Katy, Rihanna,...) which didn't get 3xP (and some no 2xP too) so why should Bieber get 3xP?
No matter how bad the album is, stupid teenage girls will still buy it..look at how his christmas album perfomed it sold about 1.245m in 2011
Katy and Rihanna are single seller, so dont expect 3xp too much from their album
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Postby nickf1 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:18 pm

khom09 wrote:
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Timmy94 wrote:I guess his first radio update will be huuuuge because I think every radio channel wants to be first to play his (anticipatedly) new single, right?
Yep, for sure. It will be interesting because the first update will show just how much hype there is around the song since there hasn't been news of a Clear Channel deal (or atleast I haven't heard about one) so the update will be purely off the hype and requests. I remember Hold It Against Me got over 20 million on its first day last year w/o a clear channel deal so let's see how Justin will fare.
HIAM got 9.074 million first day with 619 spins on Pop. Justin's first day was even better. :o
with 750 spins i guess he also has the deal....
HIAM didn't had the deal, and we don't know does Justin have the deal or not. I'm sure that all singles in future from big stars will have huge first day updates coz now there's more radio stations than one year ago.
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Postby danbarj » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:19 pm

Not even going to dignify the above response. Not true and doesnt apply to this thread.

But my comment is based on his last full LP going 3x P and the love for Beiber has yet to wane!
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Postby danbarj » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:28 pm

I wish his continued success because the boy is talented and gets so much hate! Long live Beiber!
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Postby CaliforniaDown » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:30 pm

danbarj wrote:I wish his continued success because the boy is talented and gets so much hate! Long live Beiber!
i'm agree, i hope he will be supported by radios this year. His new song is really good and special.
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Postby danbarj » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:53 pm

To put the earlier debate to rest, if he does have a deal it is not with Cleat Channel. I've been listening to my local CC channel (104.3) and they've not promoted the song and have played it once... Contrary to the endless, looped promo and spins with UD1 or GMAYL by Madonna.

Katy didnt get it either with PoM. Unless it isnt with Clear Channel.
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