The Beatles :: Charts & Sales History

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Postby johnnyboy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:02 am

The latest OCC chart up to 24/03/12

Below is the official top 10 of all time in the UK (to 24 March 2012). It is,controversial.

01 GREATEST HITS - QUEEN - 5,865,000 (1981)
02 SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - THE BEATLES - 5,046,000 (1967) 03 GOLD: GREATEST HITS - ABBA - 4,994,000 (1992)
04 WHAT'S THE STORY MORNING GLORY - OASIS 4,521,000 (1995)
05 THRILLER - MICHAEL JACKSON - 4,273,000 (1982)
06 21 ADELE - 4,165,000 (2011)
07 BROTHERS IN ARMS - DIRE STRAITS - 4,155,000 (1985)
08 THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD - 4,117,000 (1973)
09 BAD - MICHAEL JACKSON - 3,961,000 (1987)
10 GREATEST HITS II - QUEEN - 3,888,000 (1991)

The OCC only deals with retail figures not shipments and it doesn't have music club sales information.It has compiled charts since 1994. All Time Charts have been contracted out to Alan Jones of Music Week and colleagues.

Both Queen albums include a third of the sales of The Platinum Collection and half from the twin-set Greatest Hits/Greatest Hits 2 - about 700,000 sales for each album.
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Postby brian05 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:39 pm

At least Pepper is selling even though it is not in the Top 200 chart.

28/2/12
02 SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND – THE BEATLES 5,044,000

19/3/12
02 SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND – THE BEATLES 5,045,000

UPDATED 26/03/2012 @ 16:30
Please note the final, updated figures for sales week ending Saturday, March 24, 2012.
02 SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - THE BEATLES - 5,046,000
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Postby johnnyboy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:04 pm

But ABBA are selling more :D
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Postby bigred » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:51 pm

johnnyboy wrote:But ABBA are selling more :D
Whos Abba?
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Postby bigred » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:01 pm

:lol: Great news! Publications are starting to appear here in the U.S.with the Beatles on the covers and the 50th anniversary of Love Me Do being the topic.I just bought Newsweek (11 bucks,but hey its the Beatles),and they have a whole section called the Beatles billion dollar industry and their sales over the years.I'll post relevant sales info very soon over here,right now off to work!
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Postby blackbird » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:06 pm

bigred wrote::lol: Great news! Publications are starting to appear here in the U.S.with the Beatles on the covers and the 50th anniversary of Love Me Do being the topic.I just bought Newsweek (11 bucks,but hey its the Beatles),and they have a whole section called the Beatles billion dollar industry and their sales over the years.I'll post relevant sales info very soon over here,right now off to work!
The definitive moment concerning publications will be the release of The Beatles - The Complete Story: Volume One: Tune In (a Little, Brown title, ISBN: 9780316729604) by Mark Lewisohn sometime this year.

Lewisohn started with this three-volume Beatles biography in 2004. The trilogy is set to be completed in 2018.
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Postby johnnyboy » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:32 pm

The Beatles - Sergeant Pepper

Selected yearly figures, retail only.

1983 17k
1984 13k
1985 12k
1986 14k
1987 170k
1988 30k

1992 55k
1993 69k

OCC takes over in 1994
1994 55k
1995 74k
1996 78k
1997 79k
1998 110k
1999 87k
2000 63k
2001 52k
2002 45k
2003 51k
2004 34k
2005 33k
2006 36k
2007 50k
2008 13k
2009 60k

EMI claimed 2.8m by 1987 but this has never been verified by the BPI or chart compilers. In 1992 they claimed 4.2m sales after 'discovering' a million sales.

The OCC claims 5m sales now - meaning 2.2m since 1987-2012. Yet with just a few years missing sales are 1.25m in this period, and probably about 1.4m.

How does the OCC get 5.05m sales?
2,780,000 - unconfirmed EMI claims
900,000 - near the 'missing million' claimed by EMI
1,400,000 - approximate sales since 1987
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Postby blackbird » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:05 pm

Top 100 Albumes in Spain Week 12: 19/03/2012 - 25/03/2012

TW | LW | WOC | Artist | Title
85 86 26 The Beatles 1
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Postby stevieb » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:26 am

johnnyboy wrote:The Beatles - Sergeant Pepper

Selected yearly figures, retail only.

1983 17k
1984 13k
1985 12k
1986 14k
1987 170k
1988 30k

1992 55k
1993 69k

OCC takes over in 1994
1994 55k
1995 74k
1996 78k
1997 79k
1998 110k
1999 87k
2000 63k
2001 52k
2002 45k
2003 51k
2004 34k
2005 33k
2006 36k
2007 50k
2008 13k
2009 60k

EMI claimed 2.8m by 1987 but this has never been verified by the BPI or chart compilers. In 1992 they claimed 4.2m sales after 'discovering' a million sales.

The OCC claims 5m sales now - meaning 2.2m since 1987-2012. Yet with just a few years missing sales are 1.25m in this period, and probably about 1.4m.

How does the OCC get 5.05m sales?
2,780,000 - unconfirmed EMI claims
900,000 - near the 'missing million' claimed by EMI
1,400,000 - approximate sales since 1987
Er, so how could they 'miss' one million sales...what was the explanation given, was it in any way plausible and was it questioned at the time?
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Postby stevieb » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:30 am

George Harrison: Living in the Material World finally gets its DVD/Blu-Ray release in the USA on May 1st (so get your wallet out again Bigred!!!), and the Early Years Volume 1 out-takes CD gets a separate release in both the US and UK that week as well.
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Postby blackbird » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:07 am

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Postby bigred » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:33 pm

Johnnyboy wrote: The Beatles - Sergeant Pepper

Selected yearly figures, retail only.

1983 17k
1984 13k
1985 12k
1986 14k
1987 170k
1988 30k

1992 55k
1993 69k

OCC takes over in 1994
1994 55k
1995 74k
1996 78k
1997 79k
1998 110k
1999 87k
2000 63k
2001 52k
2002 45k
2003 51k
2004 34k
2005 33k
2006 36k
2007 50k
2008 13k
2009 60k

You show a figure of 60k for 2009,but the following shows a figure of 80,768 for the remastered version that came out in 9/9/09,the copies that sold from 1/1/09-9/8/09 are not even included in the count.
Also,do you find it just a little funny that Pepper took 6 years to sell a million in Britain but "With The Beatles" sold a million in about 2 years? Didn't they both hold down the number 1 spot for about the same amount of weeks? In as much as sales can be inflated,there can be under reporting also.

Sgt.Pepper remastered sales in the U.K.,the 86,530 is up to February 4th,2010.
Week one...........17,830
Weeks one - four...40,027
Total for 09.......80,768
Total to date......86,530
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Postby bigred » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:43 pm

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Postby Timmy94 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:01 pm

Abbey Road (Remastered) is officially Gold in France source...
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Postby ShayLaB » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:43 pm

Hi...does anybody know for sure if the remastered vinyl albums will be released this year?
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Postby blackbird » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:49 pm

ShayLaB wrote:Hi...does anybody know for sure if the remastered vinyl albums will be released this year?
No! There is no official press release available until now.
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Postby ShayLaB » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:54 pm

blackbird wrote:
ShayLaB wrote:Hi...does anybody know for sure if the remastered vinyl albums will be released this year?
No! There is no official press release available until now.
Thanks...it must be soon...surely. It is the one very obvious whole in the recent re-releases.
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Postby Bobdeb » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:41 am

bigred wrote::lol: Great news! Publications are starting to appear here in the U.S.with the Beatles on the covers and the 50th anniversary of Love Me Do being the topic.I just bought Newsweek (11 bucks,but hey its the Beatles),and they have a whole section called the Beatles billion dollar industry and their sales over the years.I'll post relevant sales info very soon over here,right now off to work!
Hey bigred,

Any relevant sales information in Newsweek?

Cheers
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Postby bigred » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:35 am

:o See below
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Postby bigred » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:37 am

Bobdeb wrote:
bigred wrote::lol: Great news! Publications are starting to appear here in the U.S.with the Beatles on the covers and the 50th anniversary of Love Me Do being the topic.I just bought Newsweek (11 bucks,but hey its the Beatles),and they have a whole section called the Beatles billion dollar industry and their sales over the years.I'll post relevant sales info very soon over here,right now off to work!
Hey bigred,

Any relevant sales information in Newsweek?

Cheers
I can give you some highlights that newsweek stated,but I don't know if theres anything here we already didn't know.
The beatles rock band video game has sold a reported 3 million copies to date,and has won a number of awards.
The beatles have sold well over 600 million discs.
The beatles have sold over 10 million single downloads, and 2 million album downloads.
There have been more then 2000 performances of "Love" at the mirage by cirque du soleil,with over 5.3 million tickets sold to date.
Martin Bandier,sony ceo,says the beatles remain a top revenue producer.They are the gold standard that no other name can come close to in the music business,said Bandier.They have the unique gift of atracting new listeners 40 plus years after they broke up, and why not? Lennon and McCartney created some of the greatest songs of the 20th century,said Bandier.
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Postby Bobdeb » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:40 am

bigred wrote:
Bobdeb wrote:
bigred wrote::lol: Great news! Publications are starting to appear here in the U.S.with the Beatles on the covers and the 50th anniversary of Love Me Do being the topic.I just bought Newsweek (11 bucks,but hey its the Beatles),and they have a whole section called the Beatles billion dollar industry and their sales over the years.I'll post relevant sales info very soon over here,right now off to work!
Hey bigred,

Any relevant sales information in Newsweek?

Cheers
I can give you some highlights that newsweek stated,but I don't know if theres anything here we already didn't know.
The beatles rock band video game has sold a reported 3 million copies to date,and has won a number of awards.
The beatles have sold well over 600 million discs.
The beatles have sold over 10 million single downloads, and 2 million album downloads.
There have been more then 2000 performances of "Love" at the mirage by cirque du soleil,with over 5.3 million tickets sold to date.
Martin Bandier,sony ceo,says the beatles remain a top revenue producer.They are the gold standard that no other name can come close to in the music business,said Bandier.They have the unique gift of atracting new listeners 40 plus years after they broke up, and why not? Lennon and McCartney created some of the greatest songs of the 20th century,said Bandier.
Thanks bigred. I will buy this issue of Newsweek when it is published in Australia.

cheers
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Postby blackbird » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:41 pm

Feb. 26, 2001 issue of Newsweek wrote:
Beatlemania infects our Kids
by Lorraine Ali

While critics are busy deconstructing exactly what it means to have Eminem and Elton perform a duet at this year’s Grammys, they are also secretly thanking some higher power for the distraction. It does, after all, keep them from focusing on the scant musical offerings of the past year—a dismal period in terms of new creative genius, or even mildly original schlock.

THE BILLION-DOLLAR success of plastic pop, clumsy metal and predictable, playa-style rap has left little to rave about, and caused parents to shake their heads in disgust, stupefied at the bland or even bad taste of their very own kids.

Since “The Beatles 1,” a collection of 27 chart-topping British and American hits, was released last November, it has sold more than 7 million copies stateside and enjoyed eight weeks at No. 1.

So who would have thought it’d be the Beatles, a band 30 years gone, who’d come to the rescue? The undeniable force of the Fab Four, a musical constant in the ever-changing sea of carefully marketed trends and controversy, is once again in play. Since “The Beatles 1,” a collection of 27 chart-topping British and American hits, was released last November, it has sold more than 7 million copies stateside and enjoyed eight weeks at No. 1. Though there are always predictable throngs of diehard Beatles fans and classic-rockers gobbling up the newest repackaged product, this time a large bulk of the sales and interest can be attributed to a new generation of Beatles fans: the 12-and-under crowd.

“I just like them ‘cause they sound really good,” says 11-year-old David Wells, who saw nonstop ads for “1” on Nickelodeon and MTV, then bought the CD with a little help from his mom. Like Wells’s explanation, the appeal is simple: songs like “I Want to Hold Your Hand” are even catchier than ‘N Sync’s “Bye, Bye, Bye,” and ring with the innocence and rising rebellion of the preteen years. When Wells gets older, he may reinterpret the Beatles’ music, moving from the early, happy hits to the harder, scary “White Album.” It’s a rite of passage of sorts, each new generation redefining the Beatles for itself, forging its own special connection or rejecting them as the music of their parents.

But the new Beatles fans aren’t quite old enough to define themselves by the music they listen to—or by bashing what their parents like (besides, it’s more likely their grandparents were the original screaming Fab Four fans). It’s more likely they’re just picking up on what’s out there in the ether and at the top of the charts: Dream, Britney and the Beatles. Then, of course, there’s the new marketing strategy of Capitol Records: high-energy MTV and Nick ads, candy- apple red CD packaging and the kid-friendly $11.98 price at mom-preferred stores like Wal-Mart (that’s $18 less than previous Beatles-hits packages “Blue” and “Red”).

“Kids are responding to the Beatles now like they respond to ‘N Sync,” says Roberta Caploe, editor in chief of Tiger Beat. So much so that for the first time since the Beatles’ heyday the teeny-bopper magazine is featuring the young Liverpudlians on the cover with the Backstreet Boys. Its April-issue cover line: the beatles, #1 boy band!

Move over Backstreet Boys? That is the hope of Capitol Records, whose hook-’em-young campaign is hitting right on target. When the direct-response ads for “1” aired on kid channels like MTV and Nickelodeon, viewers called the 800 number at an astonishingly high rate. On Nick, the response was 270 percent higher than that of the average direct-response music ad. It was 60 percent higher on MTV. With “1” selling steadily at 150,000 copies a week, the Beatles are now competing with “TRL’s” most requested acts.

“It’s no mistake that we put this out a week before the release of the Backstreet Boys album,” says Roy Lott, president and CEO of Capitol Records. “We wanted it to compete directly. We felt we could attract the same audience with the Beatles.”

For parents, this youthful gravitation toward the Beatles must be a relief.

The band is a safe harbor from the evils of Eminem and an entire staircase up from the banality of Sisqo. Also, the music is familiar. It was passed down to these folks by the first Beatles-loving generation, and now, like a family heirloom, it’s being passed along to their children. “Kids liking the Beatles is not a new phenomenon,” says Mark Hertsgaard, author of the Beatles book “A Day in the Life.” “It’s been consistently happening since the 1960s. They [Capitol] are just pushing in an already open door. It’s not about marketing; it’s about the particular genius of those four fellows.” And the geniuses made plenty more hits, all gems that can be smartly repackaged into kid-attracting albums. Will the class of 2070 scrawl we love John, Paul, George and Ringo across their notebooks? Maybe not. But it seems that everyone will remember the Beatles long after’N Sync has said bye, bye, bye.
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Postby blackbird » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:54 pm

Top Catalog Albums 07/04/2012: Week Ending March 25, 2012

No | Artist | Title | TW | % | LW | RTD
  72 BEATLES 1 2,194 3 2,120 12,038,533
117 BEATLES Abbey Road 1,784 -1 1,797 4,817,480
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Postby brian05 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:04 pm

On latest iTunes UK Top 1000 charts,

Albums
no. 260 1
no. 933 Sgt Pepper
no. 1009 Abbey Road
no. 1019 White album

Songs
no. 402 Here comes the sun
no. 578 Twist & Shout

Wonder when iTunes deal with Apple runs out?
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Postby bigred » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:31 am

blackbird wrote:Top Catalog Albums 07/04/2012: Week Ending March 25, 2012

No | Artist | Title | TW | % | LW | RTD
  72 BEATLES 1 2,194 3 2,120 12,038,533
117 BEATLES Abbey Road 1,784 -1 1,797 4,817,480
Blackbird,any soundtrack sales figures for the week?
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