Janet Jackson

[ForeverYoung]

I will LOSE it if she gives me another hard rock song. In the "Discipline" era I remember reading an interview of hers where she said she was going to record at least a couple of rock songs for her next album since she didn't get to for "Discipline". Hope she sticks to that promise!

Re: her career and future - truthfully, and I don't want to come across as a hater (most of you know I'm not anyway), I don't think she'll have big success again. I think she will always have successful tours but I don't see big album sales in the future for her. The best case scenario is achieving sales close to those of "Damita Jo", but even that is far fetched at his point in time IMO. I REALLY hope she proves me wrong though.

Re: her albums - to date she has not made one album, "Dreamstreet" excluded, which I flat out dislike. I used to hate "20 Y.O" but it majorly grown on me over the last few days. Seriously, that CD is so cohesive. It's a good listen IMO. "Discipline" is decent overall, the mere fact that it has few real Janet 00's killers (RWU, "Feedback", "Curtains", "2nite", "Luv") save it for me.

[abdon]

I was very amazed with the black cat video she killed it!!! and her body !!! but then what I´ll Do in Janet album and what about in velvet rope, trust a try in all for you and finally just a little while !! but I will love to see her doing something very rock and raw (playing guitarr and rock) I know she can do it right!!

[NothingFails]

What I like is that Janet didn't just play around with rock, but actually did actual rock music with Black Cat, This Time, etc...

Black Cat actually charted on the rock singles when it was current, and these are stations who never in a million years touch Janet, Whitney, Mariah, Madonna, Celine, etc... Only a small few r&b artists actually got crossover airplay on rock stations... Stevie Wonder did several times in the 70s, Michael did in the 80s with Beat It and Prince did with several Purple Rain tracks, and yet Janet was another one who did. Rock is generally very unforgiving to outsider artists (even Pink has never scored airplay on the rock charts despite having several tracks that arguably fit the format) yet Janet was one exception they made.

[abdon]

I guess UR right!! but I believe when janet did this black Cat she really convince the world she had the attitute and the rock power that pink, avril lavigne, kelly clarkson and many other female singers do not have it!!even if their songs have some crazy rock guitar melody!! it´s hard to believe that pink or avril rock actually it seems is kind of fake!! they try but they look pop!! I mean if you see joan jet or the canadians Alanah miles lee aaron or alanis in their hey days or heart (Barracuda hell yeah) did before!! is easy to compare!! anyways Black cat was a very good song though and the way (probably) the label planned work well and Janet made it to look real!! I haven´t seen that till Madonna rock with candy perfume girl in 2001 (and continue to do it in her nexts tours)..

[GetBack]

I cannot keep silent anymore. As much as I enjoyed Janet's work up to All for You, she is definitely done musically. She was never critically praised, so the points here saying that are just wrong. Gaga and Rihanna have received more critical praise than Janet. And, Beyoncé clearly is well ahead of her by all measurements. Also, Janet was her most commercially and critically successful album and it's been all downhill from there. People forget that the VR only produced 1 hit and sold less than half of Janet. That is why she was forced to go back to more Pop sounds on All For You, which was a bigger hit globally than the VR.

Ahead where? Maybe in terms of Grammy accolades, Rihanna and Beyoncé are ahead of her, but in terms of putting black artists to the forefront of music especially at a time where rock and pop were dominated by mainstream white artists, Janet did a lot for pop music that Rihanna and Beyoncé can only dare to dream. Her music pushed boundaries, Rihanna and Beyoncé know that she was one of the pioneer artists who pushed for their placement in the pop field. Obviously, the market today has pretty much opened to diversity that is why there are a lot of artists (TLC, Usher, Beyoncé, Chris Brown, Rihanna, etc.) after Michael and Janet that were able to achieve same level or even greater commercial success.

And to give Janet credit, she was much more original and innovative than any other female artist at the peak of her breakthrough, majority of the music Rihanna and Beyoncé released either echoed the genres of older artists (ranging from Michael Jackson, Donna Summer, Bob Marley, Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, Prince, Madonna and Janet) or linked with current hit-making producers that set mainstream chart trends, they never really put something out that was ground-breaking and innovative, so far.

[freexone1]

Slighty off topic but on topic,On the rihanna thread they are all obsessing about rihannas new beach holiday snaps, like they've never seen anyone hotter.

Em Janet at 40.



That's all. Lol

[preyan]

Not even a dead Michael Jackson could release a new studio album and sell like hot cakes!!!! Like how Aretha and Diana Ross is to us, Bieber, Serena, Miley fans will see Janet,, MJ, etc in that light.

Janet had musical success but the road has been repaved for newer, current talent!
Shes a legend, and will remain like that forever cause time cannot erase history... But y'all need to chill trying to prove Janet's relevance in today's music market!!!

Through some miracle, she might pull a Mimi and have a short comeback but her successful consistency in the relevant charts is over

Labels want money. That's their aim! She only had 1 Def Jam/Island release! If she really was all that in the current market, Def Jam/Island or any other label, would never have let her go!!! And yes, I know it is "her choice" right now to not be attached to a label

Just live with it. She had her successful days. She created history. But it's time to move on and stop being stuck on the same ol "I gotta prove Janet's relevance in today's market" record!

[Pawlu84]

Saying she was not popular in Europe is lies. I remember that Got till it's gone, Together Again, I Get Lonely, All For You, Doesn't really matter, Someone to call my lover, Son of a Gun and Feedback where always on radio, tv and clubs. She may not have been as popular as Madonna( than if we talk about that neither Mariah, Whitney or Celine are).She charts all around the world and I don't know one muscial artist which have a famous sibling like Janet being as popular as her.

[freexone1]

It is not 'time to move on'
I truly believe Janet is different to the other divas, she like Michael is an entity. She created a blueprint for the female popstar. She's completely unique and the only one left with any sanity and creditability who has a kl edge.
I don't think she is going anywhere reclusive anytime soon.

And only an idiot would 'move on', when she looks and dances better than current stars 20 years junior.

[Plym]

Slighty off topic but on topic,On the rihanna thread they are all obsessing about rihannas new beach holiday snaps, like they've never seen anyone hotter.

Em Janet at 40.



That's all. Lol

It's quite sad that you need to post something like this. Makes you come across as insecure about Janet when they're just celebrating their fave. Let them. You seem so hung up on convincing yourself that Janet can still swim with the big sharks, so let her do it, don't stress yourself trying to convice us.
We're all Janet fans here and we come into the topic to celebrate her legacy and music.

[freexone1]

Slighty off topic but on topic,On the rihanna thread they are all obsessing about rihannas new beach holiday snaps, like they've never seen anyone hotter.

Em Janet at 40.



That's all. Lol

It's quite sad that you need to post something like this. Makes you come across as insecure about Janet when they're just celebrating their fave. Let them. You seem so hung up on convincing yourself that Janet can still swim with the big sharks, so let her do it, don't stress yourself trying to convice us.
We're all Janet fans here and we come into the topic to celebrate her legacy and music.

Move on troll.

[Plym]

I'd take that back quickly if I were you.

[freexone1]

I'd take that back quickly if I were you.

It's a bit sad that u need to belittle me, instead of focusing on Janet.
It's funny how it's ok for other groups to 'politely' shade Janet to "legend" (old) status. But I put a pic of her up showing her hotter and I get attacked. No surprise there.
I will stan hard for her, just like any one who like a current fave will.

[NothingFails]

I'd take that back quickly if I were you.

It's a bit sad that u need to belittle me, instead of focusing on Janet.
It's funny how it's ok for other groups to 'politely' shade Janet to "legend" (old) status. But I put a pic of her up showing her hotter and I get attacked. No surprise there.
I will stan hard for her, just like any one who like a current fave will.

You're the first person to act like legend is "shade". What, would you rather someone from the 80s to be lumped in with Taylor Dayne and Jody Watley who had a few hits and now plays Pride because its all they can fall back on? I think not. Legend means that you're cemented and iconic, and you're the first person I've ever met who considers being labeled a "legend" as a bad thing. Nobody seriously considers Rihanna, Katy, Beyonce, Britney, etc... legends yet (that is, nobody who aren't stans yet. Beyonce may be a legend in 15 years, but no 30 year old can seriously be labeled a legend yet). I would rather be lumped in with someone like Aretha than someone like Nicki Minaj, but that's just me.

Newsflash, Janet is 45 and an artist who rose to prominence in the 1980s. Nobody seriously expects her to have another "janet." type of success, because no 45 year old 30 years into their career has that. You're expecting way too much and setting yourself up for disappointment, much like how Hopeless belittled Velvet Rope just because it didn't sell as well as janet. and Rhythm Nation did.

[freexone1]

I don't consider 'legend' as shade. My point is, people seem to like to use 'legend' as an excuse to suggest she's no longer current.
I don't expect massive sales.
What I expect is for people to give her the attention she is due as the Jackson she is, whether the music sucks or not.
The problem the last few eras is not Janet's poor quality albums, but rather the industry completely ignoring her unjustly. If it was about the quality of music, we wouldn't have half the garbage that is released today charting like it does.
Janet is not done, she never has been done. She's not even in her mind a legend yet. Shes not crossed the line to 'old' star in my opinion. She's always been current. Just the industry won't let u see that.

[Wmosi]

What I expect is for people to give her the attention she is due as the Jackson she is, whether the music sucks or not.

You obviously need fresh air, to be honest.

No one's entitled to anything in the industry.

[biscuits]

If the industry have turned their back on you (for whatever reason), then you are no longer current! It's like saying somebody is popular in a school full of people who dislike them. The fact that she hasn't had a top 10 hit in the US or UK does not suggest she is current at all. Yes, she may come back and surprise us all with her 11th #1, but until that happens, she just isn't considered to be hot right now.

[freexone1]

What I expect is for people to give her the attention she is due as the Jackson she is, whether the music sucks or not.

You obviously need fresh air, to be honest.

No one's entitled to anything in the industry.

Janet has been discrimated against for years.
Janet hasn't changed. She's still as anazing as she was during 'all for you' for example.
Like I said a comment ago, she is current, she hasn't changed, the industry just wouldn't let u believe it, cause of the SB. She was banned from everything, and the public had no say it the matter.

[NothingFails]

What I expect is for people to give her the attention she is due as the Jackson she is, whether the music sucks or not.

You obviously need fresh air, to be honest.

No one's entitled to anything in the industry.

Janet has been discrimated against for years.
Janet hasn't changed. She's still as anazing as she was during 'all for you' for example.
Like I said a comment ago, she is current, she hasn't changed, the industry just wouldn't let u believe it, cause of the SB. She was banned from everything, and the public had no say it the matter.

I do agree with you on that. Janet did not deserve the backlash she received. You would think the way she was treated that she had murdered someone and then drank their blood on live television by the way she was branded.

But I would say radio's resistance to her in 2012 has not to do with the SB but to the fact that they hate artists over 40.

[freexone1]

New: behind the scenes, Nutrisystem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l85FKd1eS2Y&sns

David Meyers directed the commercial.

[denise]

Nutrisystem?????

[freexone1]

Nutrisystem?????

It's a diet program Janet is endorsing.

She looks hot.

[Pawlu84]

Nutrisystem?????

The diet is working she looks amazing

[biscuits]

She does look great indeed!

[GetBack]

She does look great indeed!

And she looks so young in there too!