2013 Grammy Awards

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Postby Loveguru » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:28 am

That explains why he has one grammy :lol:
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Postby danbarj » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:11 pm

Standards, standards... the original comment was that underperforming albums get snubbed. Underperformance is relative to the artist, then industry.

CB went 2x platinum with his first two albums. F.A.M.E. sold 850k after numerous hits on multiple formats. That's an underperformance.

The Element of Freedom and 4 sold more units, plain and simple. They didn't underperform. To say such is to say that ANY artist will sell at the same threshold forever. We all know that's not the case for any artists EVER, minus the now-dead Beatles.

It wasn't an attack on Chris though. I think he did and didn't deserve the award (several pros and cons of the win, in other words). But it's good he got some shine. He finally won one.

@wmosi - I never said Mary's album didn't tank, though I wouldn't consider 500K + and top 40 after 3 months as tanking. "Mr. Wrong" just went top 10 on the R&B chart. Not too shabby (especially compared to CB) and doesn't negate the fact that she's a legend or, now, probably a front-runner until several more albums are released.

@Timmy - CB has begun promotion for the new album and no longer promotes the old. His last album was F.A.M.E.
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Postby Timmy94 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:55 pm

For me, the current album is the one released at last.
Once Fortune is released, I'll call it the current album.
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Postby jmjx » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:30 am

Wow, I think it's too soon but i bet for lana del rey for best new artist, florence and the machine, the black keys for rock field and Kelly Clarkson for pop field
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Postby GetBack » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:32 am

Kelly Clarkson will have multiple nods! 8-) 8-)
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Postby NavyCommodore » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:33 pm

Mike_54 wrote:
hotMCfan wrote:Mariah better get some Grammys :evil:
For what? unless she's supposed to release an album? or a Lifetime achievement award, but that's too early for her from the Grammy's... No Shade. Greatest voice alive, but the Grammy's have some others to honor first.
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Postby Timmy94 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:37 pm

Even a lifetime achievements award is deserved by other people than Mariah Carey.
Perhaps some artists which never had "mainstream success" but did great music through all the years and reached amazing feedbacks from critics as well as from the people... With this, I mean jazz, latin or classical singers e.g. - who weren't meant to be on top of the charts or have fans under our today's definition anyway...
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Postby PosziMC2 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:01 pm

I cant at the lifetime achievement. hotMCfan only posted this because Mariah will release something this year (well we hope she will).
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Postby Freedom » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:04 pm

In R&B you can't take the Grammys seriously at all. They just pick whoever is the most mainstream.
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Postby GetBack » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:22 pm

Chris Brown will win for Best R&B Album again next year obviously!
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Postby abi » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:28 pm

GetBack wrote:Chris Brown will win for Best R&B Album again next year obviously!
Usher is releasing too this year, Raymond V Raymond got one. But finger crossed, lol.

But I hope Fortune contains more R&B tracks so that nobody will complain "this album is Pop, there's nothing R&B about it lmao Grammy bye" again if it wins.
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Postby GetBack » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:54 pm

abi wrote:
GetBack wrote:Chris Brown will win for Best R&B Album again next year obviously!
Usher is releasing too this year, Raymond V Raymond got one. But finger crossed, lol.

But I hope Fortune contains more R&B tracks so that nobody will complain "this album is Pop, there's nothing R&B about it lmao Grammy bye" again if it wins.
I just realized that as well, Usher will surely bring it this year, but Chris definitely has the Grammy momentum, we just have to wait and see. :D
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Postby danbarj » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:59 pm

GetBack wrote:Chris Brown will win for Best R&B Album again next year obviously!
I don't think he stands a chance against Usher, especially if Usher really brings it on the album.
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Postby GetBack » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:03 pm

danbarj wrote:
GetBack wrote:Chris Brown will win for Best R&B Album again next year obviously!
I don't think he stands a chance against Usher, especially if Usher really brings it on the album.
I have a feeling that one of them might be snubbed! Anyway, I can't wait to hear their albums!
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Postby Gagich » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:42 pm

Nicki`s Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded deserves to win a Grammy!
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Postby NavyCommodore » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:36 am

Gagich wrote:Nicki`s Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded deserves to win a Grammy!
In what category? Baaaby, cause its not a Rap album, it's a pop album. She's turned herself into Ke$ha with a Katy Perry stylist that wants to style lady gaga. Not hip hop enough to win IMHO.
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Postby Gagich » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:06 am

NavyCommodore wrote:
Gagich wrote:Nicki`s Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded deserves to win a Grammy!
In what category? Baaaby, cause its not a Rap album, it's a pop album. She's turned herself into Ke$ha with a Katy Perry stylist that wants to style lady gaga. Not hip hop enough to win IMHO.
Don`t know in what category... whichever it is, it deserved at least 1 Grammy! :D
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Postby GetBack » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:05 pm

I don't think Nicki will get nods this year, especially with how she fared with her best album, which is Pink Friday, where she didn't win.
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Postby Timmy94 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:10 pm

Gagich wrote:
NavyCommodore wrote:
Gagich wrote:Nicki`s Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded deserves to win a Grammy!
In what category? Baaaby, cause its not a Rap album, it's a pop album. She's turned herself into Ke$ha with a Katy Perry stylist that wants to style lady gaga. Not hip hop enough to win IMHO.
Don`t know in what category... whichever it is, it deserved at least 1 Grammy! :D
Not everything that isn't hip hop is pop! It's a mix of hip hop and eurodance, pop is Carly Rae Jepson and even if I don't own Roman Reloaded, I doubt that Nicki Minaj sings songs like Call Me Maybe on it :wink: .

Anyway, winning a Grammy means not just being a good album, but an amazing album and from what I read, most critics think that it's rather an average album.
Grammys should go to masterpieces of music and I'd rather see a totally unknown amazing album then one by a popular artist which is just OK.

Although most people don't see the album as straight hip hop, there isn't even a hip hop category at the Grammys. There is only a rap category and rap can also mean electro (Flo Rida/LMFAO), country or pop (e.g. Young Wild & Free).
Though this never stopped a record from being nominated in a category which doesn't fit to it (Yoü And I for Pop although it's country/rock, Duets II for pop although it's jazz, The Cave for rock although it's folk, Own The Night for country although it's pop/rock - and this was just during this year).
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Postby NoAngel » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:26 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
Gagich wrote:
NavyCommodore wrote:
Gagich wrote:Nicki`s Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded deserves to win a Grammy!
In what category? Baaaby, cause its not a Rap album, it's a pop album. She's turned herself into Ke$ha with a Katy Perry stylist that wants to style lady gaga. Not hip hop enough to win IMHO.
Don`t know in what category... whichever it is, it deserved at least 1 Grammy! :D
Not everything that isn't hip hop is pop! It's a mix of hip hop and eurodance, pop is Carly Rae Jepson and even if I don't own Roman Reloaded, I doubt that Nicki Minaj sings songs like Call Me Maybe on it :wink: .
oh really :roll: So what are Adele, Lady Gaga or Lana Del Rey? All three belong to pop and neither of them has a song like "Call Me Maybe".
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Postby Timmy94 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:43 pm

Adele is soul pop, Lady Gaga is Dance pop and Lana Del Rey is alternative/indie pop...
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Postby Molattow » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:52 pm

I hope Kanye doesn't kill his chances of a AOTY nomination by releasing two projects in the same timespan again.
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Postby Bolicheman » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:53 pm

NoAngel wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:
Gagich wrote:
NavyCommodore wrote:
Gagich wrote:Nicki`s Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded deserves to win a Grammy!
In what category? Baaaby, cause its not a Rap album, it's a pop album. She's turned herself into Ke$ha with a Katy Perry stylist that wants to style lady gaga. Not hip hop enough to win IMHO.
Don`t know in what category... whichever it is, it deserved at least 1 Grammy! :D
Not everything that isn't hip hop is pop! It's a mix of hip hop and eurodance, pop is Carly Rae Jepson and even if I don't own Roman Reloaded, I doubt that Nicki Minaj sings songs like Call Me Maybe on it :wink: .
oh really :roll: So what are Adele, Lady Gaga or Lana Del Rey? All three belong to pop and neither of them has a song like "Call Me Maybe".
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Pop isn't the style of music they sing, Pop is short for "Popular" musician, so therefore Nicki IS a pop artist eventhough she raps and occasionally sings. Adele is a soul artist that IS very popular therefore she is a pop artist. Lady GaGa is more Dance/Industrial Techno stuff, but she's also very popular so she is a Pop star, and Lana's Getting there too. Basically there is no specific genre in pop as long as its popular and is whats "hot" @ the moment, or the artist being popular themselves, so Yeah. .
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Postby NoAngel » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:24 pm

Timmy94 wrote:Adele is soul pop, Lady Gaga is Dance pop and Lana Del Rey is alternative/indie pop...
by that logic Nicki is hip-hop pop.
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Postby NothingFails » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:52 pm

NoAngel wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:Adele is soul pop, Lady Gaga is Dance pop and Lana Del Rey is alternative/indie pop...
by that logic Nicki is hip-hop pop.
hip-pop :)
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