Demi Lovato :: The "Unbroken" Era

by **TrinidadNavy** » Fri May 04, 2012 2:06 pm

Guys, I'll leave this here, because I dont want to create an argument but you all are alittle misguided.

Being in the top 1000 on itunes DOES NOT equal 10K, or even 2K. Big digital sales are confined to a certain degree. It does not work like a scale.

No.1 could sell 1M copies and No.10 could sell 10 copies in the same week. Its all amount market demand.

Anyway, no idea what the No.1000 sells but I can bet its like 50 copies.

I'll try to find the real figures.

by **Teo** » Fri May 04, 2012 2:13 pm

TrinidadNavy wrote:Guys, I'll leave this here, because I dont want to create an argument but you all are alittle misguided.

Being in the top 1000 on itunes DOES NOT equal 10K, or even 2K. Big digital sales are confined to a certain degree. It does not work like a scale.

No.1 could sell 1M copies and No.10 could sell 10 copies in the same week. Its all amount market demand.

Anyway, no idea what the No.1000 sells but I can bet its like 50 copies.
I'll try to find the real figures.

I perfectly know this! but it's realistic for a song nowadays selling 50k in 2 years and half being constantly in top 500/1000

(La La land and Don't Forget) don't underestimate the USA digital market! I think that the 1000th song in America can sell 0,5k per week! but in the 500's a song can sell even 4k per week!

by **TrinidadNavy** » Fri May 04, 2012 2:18 pm

Teo wrote:
TrinidadNavy wrote:And even if a song had X amount of sales X amount of years ago, does not mean it continued selling to cover 100K or so. It could be selling 1 copy per day, or none all together. Her catalog is not a classic like MJ or the Beatles.
look at thos figures of HWGA (album)

157 LOVATO*DEMI HERE WE GO AGAIN 5,397 397 1,087 425,707

are from november 2010..the album was selling 1,000 copies every week..and sold in one year 30k additional(according to HDD). it's so unbelivable another 20k during these months(considering the Unbroken realese and everything)?

The week Unbroken debut, Here We Go Again and Don't Forget did not even chart on the top 200 BB albums. It is unlikely they charted after that except during holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving. Even so, again using the Billboard sales and not estimates, it is improbable, those albums sold 57K and 30K during those few weeks. That is a fact.

Unbroken was also only selling 9K over Christmas, so unlikely her other albums which did not chart, sold any significant amount.

We'll see. Hopefully they chart in catalog and we can get real figures.

by **Teo** » Fri May 04, 2012 2:20 pm

TrinidadNavy wrote:
Teo wrote:
TrinidadNavy wrote:And even if a song had X amount of sales X amount of years ago, does not mean it continued selling to cover 100K or so. It could be selling 1 copy per day, or none all together. Her catalog is not a classic like MJ or the Beatles.
look at thos figures of HWGA (album)

157 LOVATO*DEMI HERE WE GO AGAIN 5,397 397 1,087 425,707

are from november 2010..the album was selling 1,000 copies every week..and sold in one year 30k additional(according to HDD). it's so unbelivable another 20k during these months(considering the Unbroken realese and everything)?
The week Unbroken debut, Here We Go Again and Don't Forget did not even chart on the top 200 BB albums. It is unlikely they charted after that except during holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving. Even so, again using the Billboard sales and not estimates, it is improbable, those albums sold 57K and 30K during those few weeks. That is a fact.

I think that HWGA can be easily at 460k by now then

and DF 500k

by **Abovv** » Fri May 04, 2012 5:18 pm

TrinidadNavy wrote:
Teo wrote:
TrinidadNavy wrote:And even if a song had X amount of sales X amount of years ago, does not mean it continued selling to cover 100K or so. It could be selling 1 copy per day, or none all together. Her catalog is not a classic like MJ or the Beatles.
look at thos figures of HWGA (album)

157 LOVATO*DEMI HERE WE GO AGAIN 5,397 397 1,087 425,707

are from november 2010..the album was selling 1,000 copies every week..and sold in one year 30k additional(according to HDD). it's so unbelivable another 20k during these months(considering the Unbroken realese and everything)?
The week Unbroken debut, Here We Go Again and Don't Forget did not even chart on the top 200 BB albums. It is unlikely they charted after that except during holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving. Even so, again using the Billboard sales and not estimates, it is improbable, those albums sold 57K and 30K during those few weeks. That is a fact.

Unbroken was also only selling 9K over Christmas, so unlikely her other albums which did not chart, sold any significant amount.

We'll see. Hopefully they chart in catalog and we can get real figures.

how can they start charing on catalog?

by **Teo** » Sat May 05, 2012 5:58 pm

DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 21.828 (+ 0.549)

by **jpguy** » Sat May 05, 2012 6:15 pm

Teo wrote:DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 21.828 (+ 0.549)

by **TrinidadNavy** » Sat May 05, 2012 9:37 pm

They'll chart on catalog if they sell enough during a given week. Like be discounted or was advertised.

by **Teo** » Sun May 06, 2012 1:03 pm

DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 23.036 (+ 1.208)

by **Valentino** » Sun May 06, 2012 1:05 pm

Teo wrote:DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 23.036 (+ 1.208)

Biggest update so far

by **Timmy94** » Sun May 06, 2012 1:30 pm

I don't understand how Unbroken isn't even among the top 200 albums while Give Your Heart A Break is charting on the Hot 100 and could end as Demi Lovato's biggest radio single...

by **arjunsinghaoul** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:11 pm

Timmy94 wrote:I don't understand how Unbroken isn't even among the top 200 albums while Give Your Heart A Break is charting on the Hot 100 and could end as Demi Lovato's biggest radio single...

it is in the top 200

Unbroken
#135 United States
#236 Canada
#248 Paraguay
#270 Brazil
#270 Panama
#382 Venezuela
#399 New Zealand

by **Timmy94** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:14 pm

Are you talking about the ITunes Albums Chart? I've been referring to the Billboard 200...

by **arjunsinghaoul** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:52 pm

Timmy94 wrote:Are you talking about the ITunes Albums Chart? I've been referring to the Billboard 200...

Yes... was itunes

by **Teo** » Mon May 07, 2012 12:38 pm

DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 23.651 (+ 0.615)

by **Teo** » Mon May 07, 2012 7:12 pm

US Itunes

39. Give Your Heart A Break - Demi Lovato

by **TrinidadNavy** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:08 am

top 40 for the single..at least its maintaining.

by **theArmy** » Tue May 08, 2012 6:35 am

it's going step by step

I hope she can make the top20

Last FM · by **arab** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:17 pm

Give Your Heart A Break: 23.890 (+ 0.239)

by **arjunsinghaoul** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:32 pm

GYHAB is doing brilliantly on itunes and seems to be slowly rising. Its at #38
Here's a chart for itunes positions daily

http://www.downloadcharts.net/us/artist ... t-a-break/

by **Teo** » Wed May 09, 2012 1:23 pm

DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 24.319 (+ 0.429)

by **Teo** » Thu May 10, 2012 11:32 am

DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 24.667 (+ 0.348)

by **Teo** » Fri May 11, 2012 11:57 am

DEMI LOVATO - Give Your Heart A Break: 25.540 (+ 0.873)

Visit My Last FM Page · by **MichielMC** » Fri May 11, 2012 12:22 pm

Belgium (flandres) chart update:

1. lbum chart run belgium(flanders (updated): 59 - 25 - 59 - 71 - 88 - out - 64 - 75 - 53 - 71 - 99 - 89 (11 weeks on this chart)

2. Ultratip (Bubbling under official top 50 singles chart): Give your heart a break: 2 (Last week: 5). It has a change to debut on the official singles chart next week.

3. Official Airplay chart: Give your heart a break: 30 (Last week: 29) (5 weeks on this chart)

Note: She is nowhere on the belgium wallonie charts.

by **arjunsinghaoul** » Fri May 11, 2012 3:03 pm

Skyscraper Portugal Chart run (It's still charting)

43 - 31 - 24 - 24 - 21