Adele :: The "21" Era

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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 9:40 am

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21 #11
19 #51

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Postby innocenteyes » Sat May 12, 2012 9:58 am

I've just read on a jorunalist's twitter that 21 is back at #1 in Australia :D .

This is the album's 32nd week on top Down Under.

The whole chart run:

3-3-9-9-5-6-10-11-12-4-3-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-4-3-
2-2-2-3-2-2-
1-1-1-1-2-3-1-1-1-1-3-3-4-4-3-4-3-2-1
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 10:04 am

innocenteyes wrote:I've just read on a jorunalist's twitter that 21 is back at #1 in Australia :D .

This is the album's 32nd week on top Down Under.

The whole chart run:

3-3-9-9-5-6-10-11-12-4-3-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-4-3-
2-2-2-3-2-2-
1-1-1-1-2-3-1-1-1-1-3-3-4-4-3-4-3-2-1
Fantastic news :D
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Postby arab » Sat May 12, 2012 10:06 am

innocenteyes wrote:I've just read on a jorunalist's twitter that 21 is back at #1 in Australia :D .

This is the album's 32nd week on top Down Under.
Pure fantastic! :D :D 3 more weeks and 21 will be a studio album with most weeks @ #1 :D :D :D
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Postby arab » Sat May 12, 2012 11:37 am

7. ADELE - Rumour Has It: 103.626 (- 1.168) Noooo!!!! :o
13. ADELE - Set Fire To The Rain: 75.517 (- 0.804)
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Postby Hermes » Sat May 12, 2012 11:45 am

7. ADELE - Rumour Has It: 103.626 (- 1.168)Peaking ? :cry:
13. ADELE - Set Fire To The Rain: 75.517 (- 0.804)
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 11:52 am

arab wrote:7. ADELE - Rumour Has It: 103.626 (- 1.168) Noooo!!!! :o
13. ADELE - Set Fire To The Rain: 75.517 (- 0.804)
Well it did go over the 100M
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 12:14 pm

Media Traffic

Adele's '21' slides one slot at no.3 (down 9% to 161.000 sales), her former set '19' ranks at no.24 in its 81st week with 31.000 sales. This album sold 5,4 million copies so far, '21' is at 21,44 million now.
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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 12, 2012 1:24 pm

NorfolkScot wrote:
innocenteyes wrote:I've just read on a jorunalist's twitter that 21 is back at #1 in Australia :D .

This is the album's 32nd week on top Down Under.

The whole chart run:

3-3-9-9-5-6-10-11-12-4-3-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-4-3-
2-2-2-3-2-2-
1-1-1-1-2-3-1-1-1-1-3-3-4-4-3-4-3-2-1
Fantastic news :D
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 2:50 pm

World Charts

Week 66 - 219,900

Total

23,258,800
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Postby jpguy » Sat May 12, 2012 4:33 pm

What records has she broken?
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Postby cooldeepak » Sat May 12, 2012 4:42 pm

jpguy wrote:What records has she broken?
there are countless records she has broken ;)
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 5:04 pm

jpguy wrote:What records has she broken?
Loads and loads and loads. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby rundmck » Sat May 12, 2012 5:46 pm

jpguy wrote:What records has she broken?
Look at page 4 of the 'Adele- putting things in context' thread in the chart analysis section, for a list of the UK records. It needs updating. As for worldwide records, there would need to be a book made!
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Postby arab » Sat May 12, 2012 5:57 pm

France complete update

Albums
04(02) 21 10,521 [1,360,921] ***21 weeks @ #1***
43(37) 19 1,600 est [~169,700] [Peak: #15]

Singles
23(17) Someone Like You 2,300(est) [~284 400 total] ***4 weeks @ #1***
36(31) Rolling In The Deep 1,700 (est) [~282 700 total] [Peak: #3]
37(38) Set Fire To The Rain 1,660 est [~113,440 total] [Peak: #9]

DVD Music Chart
03(03) Live At Royal Albert Hall ***14 weeks @ #1***
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Postby arab » Sat May 12, 2012 6:51 pm

Rumour is officialy the 4th single from 21 here in Poland
http://www.rmf.fm/au/?a=poplista
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Postby Timmy94 » Sat May 12, 2012 6:58 pm

arab wrote:Rumour is officialy the 4th single from 21 here in Poland
http://www.rmf.fm/au/?a=poplista
But this source only shows that Rumour is played by a radio station and not that it's the 4th single in Poland...
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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 12, 2012 7:10 pm

jpguy wrote:What records has she broken?
As others have said, loads (with more still to come).

For me some of the most impressive:

1. Artist album with the most weeks ever at No 1 in the US and UK (46 weeks total; previous record holder = Thriller with 45 wks)

2. Most dominant week on the US charts ever by a solo artist of either gender (3 of the top 7 singles, 2 of the top 4 albums in the week after the Grammies) *

3. All-time longest-running No 1 album in several countries: Netherlands, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand with more than 30 weeks in each (presumably also Belgium (Wallonia) with 38 wks but I've never seen this stated as a record).

4. Most successful solo album of all time in the UK by virtually every measure (4.28+ million sales, breaking Thriller's record of 4.27 million sales; 23 wks at No 1 breaking Elvis' GI Blues = 22 wks, etc.)

5. Longest-running No 1 album of the Soundscan era in the US (i.e. since they started measuring things properly) with 23 wks (so far).

* Only the Beatles with 5/5 of the top singles and 2/2 of the top albums in early 1964 have ever dominated the US charts to a greater extent. And while I would never deny the Beatles' status for a second, they were aided by flooding the US market with loads of singles and albums at once. Adele's "19" was 4 years old and "Rolling In The Deep" was 1 year old and yet both shot back to the top 5 in that week.
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Postby arab » Sat May 12, 2012 7:38 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
arab wrote:Rumour is officialy the 4th single from 21 here in Poland
http://www.rmf.fm/au/?a=poplista
But this source only shows that Rumour is played by a radio station and not that it's the 4th single in Poland...
If the song is charting on the most popular chart on the biggest radio station in Poland, it means that it's the official single...trust me
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 12, 2012 9:18 pm

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21

#1 Argentina
#1 Chile
#1 Colombia
#1 Cyprus
#1 Dominican Republic
#1 Hungary
#1 Lithuania
#1 Peru
#2 Ecuador
#2 El Salvador
#2 Italy
#2 Latvia
#2 Malta
#2 Romania
#2 Slovenia
#3 United States
#3 Australia
#3 Finland
#3 Mexico
#3 Panama
#3 Paraguay
#3 Spain
#4 Belgium
#4 Brazil
#4 Bulgaria
#4 Canada
#4 Estonia
#4 Guatemala
#4 Honduras
#4 New Zealand
#4 Venezuela
#5 Greece
#5 Slovakia
#5 Switzerland
#6 France
#6 Norway
#7 Costa Rica
#7 Nicaragua
#7 Portugal
#8 Denmark
#8 Ireland
#8 Poland
#9 Czech Republic
#9 Netherlands
#11 United Kingdom
#13 Luxembourg
#14 Bolivia
#15 Germany
#24 Japan
#24 Sweden
#27 Austria
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Postby HAL9000 » Sat May 12, 2012 9:48 pm

phoenix83 wrote:For me some of the most impressive:

1. Artist album with the most weeks ever at No 1 in the US and UK (46 weeks total; previous record holder = Thriller with 45 wks)
I passionately follow charts for 30 years and I have never absolutely never heard of this combined UK/US albums list before some of Adele's fans here mentioned it. Using same logic you can create countless "records" calculating what album spent the most weeks as #1 in the US/Germany or US/France, US/Japan, US/Canada, US/Mexico, US/Italy, UK/France, UK/Italy ... or you can combine 3 countries or 4, 5, 6... :roll:

However it is pretty impressive that "21" spent 23 weeks as #1 on both charts.

phoenix83 wrote:2. Most dominant week on the US charts ever by a solo artist of either gender (3 of the top 7 singles, 2 of the top 4 albums in the week after the Grammies) *
As usual :roll: you completely ignore Michael Jackson's domination in 2009 which was the biggest chart domination ever in the music history. Only for example, in the week ending June 28, 2009 (based on 3+ days sales) MJ had 3 best-selling albums in the US in one week (previous record was set in 1964 when The Beatles held 3 of the top 4 spots - 1st, 2nd and 4th place.) and he also had 50 songs in the top 200 Hot Digital Songs chart (6 in the top 10, 11 in the top 20, 21 in the top 50, 31 in the Top 100). If he was allowed to chart on the CURRENT charts (Hot100/BB200) with his catalog songs/albums in the week after his death he would have 3 songs (Billie Jean, Thriller, Man In The Mirror) in the Hot 100's top 10 and 3 albums in the Billboard 200's top 5 (#1, #2 and #3) in the same week. Nevertheless his unprecedented domination was reported and acknowledged by Billboard. By the way for 7 consecutive weeks, Michael Jackson had 3 of the top 5 best-selling albums in the US etc. etc.

phoenix83 wrote:4. Most successful solo album of all time in the UK by virtually every measure (4.28+ million sales, breaking Thriller's record of 4.27 million sales; 23 wks at No 1 breaking Elvis' GI Blues = 22 wks, etc.)
This so-called official figure for "Thriller" reported by OCC is only for RETAIL sales. Both Madonna and Michael Jackson scored massive non-retail sales for which record companies payed taxes. Ignoring legal non-retail sales is complete nonsense but whatever... :roll:
Claiming that "Thriller" sold only 4,27 million copies in the UK (ignoring legal non-retail sales) is the same as claiming that "Come On Over" by Shania Twain sold 15,5 million copies (reported by SoundScan) even though album was certified 20× Platinum based on complete actual sales. ;)

Anyway Adele's "21" is definitely the most dominant album ever in the UK and it is only matter of time when will pass actual "Thriller" and "Bad" sales figures.
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Postby gus123 » Sat May 12, 2012 10:23 pm

Isn't also 21 the longest running number 1 every by a female artsist with 23 weeks at number 1 beating Whitney Houston's The Bodyguard?
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Postby NoAngel » Sat May 12, 2012 10:30 pm

It seems that every time name "Michael" is mentioned in this thread certain members feel the need to glorify him. Sorry - wrong thread aka nobody cars!
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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 12, 2012 10:45 pm

HAL9000 wrote:
phoenix83 wrote:For me some of the most impressive:

1. Artist album with the most weeks ever at No 1 in the US and UK (46 weeks total; previous record holder = Thriller with 45 wks)
I passionately follow charts for 30 years and I have never absolutely never heard of this combined UK/US albums list before some of Adele's fans here mentioned it. Using same logic you can create countless "records" calculating what album spent the most weeks as #1 in the US/Germany or US/France, US/Japan, US/Canada, US/Mexico, US/Italy, UK/France, UK/Italy ... or you can combine 3 countries or 4, 5, 6... :roll:
For someone who has passionately followed charts for 30 years, you seem painfully unaware of the fact that success on the US and UK charts are seen as the pinnacle by most artists. These are the countries which have produced the majority of influential artists since the charts began, and are 2 of the biggest music markets in the world (along with Japan and, recently, Germany). Certainly if an album spends 20+ more weeks in both countries it's an exceptional feat.

In any case let's play your game (list courtesy of Arab);

Weeks for 21 at No 1

38 – Belgium (Flanders)
36 - New Zealand - all time record
34 – Ireland, - all time record
33 - Canada - all time record
32 – Australia - all time record for solo artist
31 - Netherlands - all time record
23 – UK, US
21 – France
14 – Belgium(Wallonia), Switzerland
13 – Norway
11 – Denmark,
10 – Finland
9 – Poland
8 – Germany, Mexico
5 – Italy
3 – Czech Republic
2 – Austria, Brazil, Sweden, Hungary
1 – Greece

TOTAL WKS AT NO 1: 375

This list doesn't include Argentina or South Africa either, where 21 has hit No 1.

21 is without a doubt the most successful artist chart album in the history of the English-speaking world. If you can provide me with stats showing that Thriller spent cumulatively longer at No 1 in all countries of the world, fine. But it will surely be very close.

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phoenix83 wrote:2. Most dominant week on the US charts ever by a solo artist of either gender (3 of the top 7 singles, 2 of the top 4 albums in the week after the Grammies) *
As usual :roll: you completely ignore Michael Jackson's domination in 2009 which was the biggest chart domination ever in the music history. Only for example, in the week ending June 28, 2009 (based on 3+ days sales) MJ had 3 best-selling albums in the US in one week (previous record was set in 1964 when The Beatles held 3 of the top 4 spots - 1st, 2nd and 4th place.) and he also had 50 songs in the top 200 Hot Digital Songs chart (6 in the top 10, 11 in the top 20, 21 in the top 50, 31 in the Top 100). If he was allowed to chart on the CURRENT charts (Hot100/BB200) with his catalog songs/albums in the week after his death he would have 3 songs (Billie Jean, Thriller, Man In The Mirror) in the Hot 100's top 10 and 3 albums in the Billboard 200's top 5 (#1, #2 and #3) in the same week. Nevertheless his unprecedented domination was reported and acknowledged by Billboard. By the way for 7 consecutive weeks, Michael Jackson had 3 of the top 5 best-selling albums in the US etc. etc.
So why did Billboard state that Adele had joined the Beatles as the only artist to have 3 top ten singles and 2 top five albums concurrently ?

Plus you are talking about posthumous achievements which generally are discounted - i.e. in the UK a big emphasis was made that Adele was the first living artist to have 2 top 5 singles and 2 top 5 albums concurrently since the Beatles. Because everyone knows that after a famous artist's death, their sales will skyrocket so it's not a comparable situation with the normal charts.

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phoenix83 wrote:4. Most successful solo album of all time in the UK by virtually every measure (4.28+ million sales, breaking Thriller's record of 4.27 million sales; 23 wks at No 1 breaking Elvis' GI Blues = 22 wks, etc.)
This so-called official figure for "Thriller" reported by OCC is only for RETAIL sales. Both Madonna and Michael Jackson scored massive non-retail sales for which record companies payed taxes. Ignoring legal non-retail sales is complete nonsense but whatever... :roll:
Claiming that "Thriller" sold only 4,27 million copies in the UK (ignoring legal non-retail sales) is the same as claiming that "Come On Over" by Shania Twain sold 15,5 million copies (reported by SoundScan) even though album was certified 20× Platinum based on complete actual sales. ;)

Anyway Adele's "21" is definitely the most dominant album ever in the UK and it is only matter of time when will pass actual "Thriller" and "Bad" sales figures.
Has it taken you this long to bring up the "club vs retail" sales argument? 21 passed Thriller in the UK more than a week ago, people were expecting this much earlier. Internet piracy/Spotify/iTunes cherrypicking/ability to listen to tracks on YouTube has affected 21 to a huge extent as well so please don't bring up such arguments.

Oh and incidentally, I am a huge Michael Jackson fan (Billie Jean is my favourite song of all time), but I am also a person who appreciates what Adele is doing for the music industry and I'm not going to live in the past and pretend that MJ holds every record going and will do so indefinitely.

I suggest you move on as well.
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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 12, 2012 10:47 pm

gus123 wrote:Isn't also 21 the longest running number 1 every by a female artsist with 23 weeks at number 1 beating Whitney Houston's The Bodyguard?
yes.
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