Jay-Z Supports Gay Marriage [VIDEO]

[danbarj]

Let people do them on their own and, as with anything, I think we (the masses) should be guided by our personal morals and beliefs and not the words of a president or rapper. I am not persuaded by any "star" to do, accept or believe anything -- ANY star -- I frame my own beliefs.

Good for you.

Unfortunately, not everybody is as open minded or as free to express their beliefs as you. And some people need to be influenced or guided by others.

Well, I'll advocate that everyone should be governed by theirselves (and God if you believe in Him) in terms of what we do, and not a "star."

The "advice" from these stars can go both ways, good and bad. Positive and negative. So, in all things, people SHOULD be encouraged to develop their own minds, opinions and positions.

[Wayne]

Well, I'll advocate that everyone should be governed by theirselves (and God if you believe in Him) in terms of what we do, and not a "star."

The "advice" from these stars can go both ways, good and bad. Positive and negative. So, in all things, people SHOULD be encouraged to develop their own minds, opinions and positions.

Hmm, take my advice from a book that's thousands of years old? IDTS, with all due respect.

From my perspective, its another superstar adding their voice to a growing movement - and I love it.

I'm not quite sure what colour I want to get married in....however I do know that I'm going to invite these people to my wedding, who weirdly are open minded people, governed by God!

[Muzikritik]

Damn there is some cynicism on these boards.

It's true, it's possible that Jay-Z doesn't really GAS either way and is just making a statement for political reasons.

But isn't it possible that maybe - just maybe - he actually does believe it? As if being married to Beyonce (who likely has more than a few gay associates, if Jay-Z didn't anyway) wasn't enough I also kinda think that Jay-Z has achieved a hell of a lot through hard work and now has the opportunity to step back from the struggle and appreciate the finer things in life - and it's possible that in reflection he's realised just how irrelevant sexual orientation is.

But wait, he's a sell-out, he's opportunistic... so it couldn't possibly be genuine, huh?

[neoepzilon]

Damn there is some cynicism on these boards.

It's true, it's possible that Jay-Z doesn't really GAS either way and is just making a statement for political reasons.

But isn't it possible that maybe - just maybe - he actually does believe it? As if being married to Beyonce (who likely has more than a few gay associates, if Jay-Z didn't anyway) wasn't enough I also kinda think that Jay-Z has achieved a hell of a lot through hard work and now has the opportunity to step back from the struggle and appreciate the finer things in life - and it's possible that in reflection he's realised just how irrelevant sexual orientation is.

But wait, he's a sell-out, he's opportunistic... so it couldn't possibly be genuine, huh?

My point.

[NothingFails]

To crap on Jay-Z because you don't like his music or his clothing line is one thing, but crapping on him because he pulled himself from being a nobody to an entrepreneur and one of the most powerful entertainers around is another.

I never understood why people feel betrayed when someone ends up becoming so rich he never has to worry about working fast-food or retail again? I remember there was a huge punk backlash to Green Day in the mid-90s because fans who remember when they were high school dropouts felt betrayed when they actually started making money and stopped having to worry about making ends meet. Don't people get into the entertainment business so they can "make it"? So why is it bad if a band you followed for years ends up becoming millionaires by doing what they love. You should be happy they never have to worry about flipping burgers again.

[MonaBlissa]

He may be corny, but he has supported gays and this says more than anything that an opportunist president piggybacker like Jay-Z says. http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en& ... oY7OKK1pVU


@NothingFails - Nobody envies Jay money. He's not the first or last to be called out. Educated people like me called our Bob Johnson who made a billion off BET with little cultural positive effects. Jay gets no pass.

And now I see people putting up extremist pictures.

[MonaBlissa]

Damn there is some cynicism on these boards.

It's true, it's possible that Jay-Z doesn't really GAS either way and is just making a statement for political reasons.

But isn't it possible that maybe - just maybe - he actually does believe it? As if being married to Beyonce (who likely has more than a few gay associates, if Jay-Z didn't anyway) wasn't enough I also kinda think that Jay-Z has achieved a hell of a lot through hard work and now has the opportunity to step back from the struggle and appreciate the finer things in life - and it's possible that in reflection he's realised just how irrelevant sexual orientation is.

But wait, he's a sell-out, he's opportunistic... so it couldn't possibly be genuine, huh?

Beyonce has always had a big gay following, Why now? Jay-Z doesn't have half the country's opposition like Obama and the GOP. It makes sense for Obama to come out now when he's up against Romney and not 5-6 Republican candidates. I have a right to take my stance. Jay's history proves his character.

[NothingFails]

@NothingFails - Nobody envies Jay money. He's not the first or last to be called out. Educated people like me called our Bob Johnson who made a billion off BET with little cultural positive effects. Jay gets no pass.

And now I see people putting up extremist pictures.

Well it isn't envying their money, but why do people feel betrayed when their heroes get rich and never have to worry about financial issues again? It isn't a black or white thing, because the punk rock crowd did the same thing to Green Day as did many heavy metal fans with Metallica when they started getting the big paychecks too.

[neoepzilon]

@NothingFails - Nobody envies Jay money. He's not the first or last to be called out. Educated people like me called our Bob Johnson who made a billion off BET with little cultural positive effects. Jay gets no pass.

And now I see people putting up extremist pictures.

BET under Bob Johnson had tons of positive effects on black culture, especially in the 90s. Unfortunately in the early 2000s, they became a music channel that had little to choose from content-wise as booty shaking, money throwing, rap videos was all the rage.

They are finally cracking the whip, banning many videos as they are able to properly retrospect, and ratings have suffered. It is a young network that has to grow with the culture.

What are you, as an educated woman, doing for our culture besides criticizing every half-decent positive role model we have?

Well it isn't envying their money, but why do people feel betrayed when their heroes get rich and never have to worry about financial issues again? It isn't a black or white thing, because the punk rock crowd did the same thing to Green Day as did many heavy metal fans with Metallica when they started getting the big paychecks too.

This rampant in the black community. They did the exact same thing to Oprah.

[MonaBlissa]

@NothingFails - Nobody envies Jay money. He's not the first or last to be called out. Educated people like me called our Bob Johnson who made a billion off BET with little cultural positive effects. Jay gets no pass.

And now I see people putting up extremist pictures.

Well it isn't envying their money, but why do people feel betrayed when their heroes get rich and never have to worry about financial issues again? It isn't a black or white thing, because the punk rock crowd did the same thing to Green Day as did many heavy metal fans with Metallica when they started getting the big paychecks too.

That negro was NEVER my hero. That was Janet and Mariah. I used to be a Nas fan until he went far left. I will call you out and stand up for you when needed. I see you Jay. You ain't real and it's hard to break that habit.

@neoepzilon - Boy bye. Don't get mad that I called out your faves. And the crabs-in-a-barrel argument is so basic.

[neoepzilon]

@neoepzilon - Boy bye. Don't get mad that I called out your faves. And the crabs-in-a-barrel argument is so basic.

Hi, I'm the OP. I'm in this thread until I'm banned or it gets locked. You should deal.

Try replying with a proper response or continue to prove your argument as unjustified and unnecessarily against the grain.

[ECE]

Damn there is some cynicism on these boards.

It's true, it's possible that Jay-Z doesn't really GAS either way and is just making a statement for political reasons.

But isn't it possible that maybe - just maybe - he actually does believe it? As if being married to Beyonce (who likely has more than a few gay associates, if Jay-Z didn't anyway) wasn't enough I also kinda think that Jay-Z has achieved a hell of a lot through hard work and now has the opportunity to step back from the struggle and appreciate the finer things in life - and it's possible that in reflection he's realised just how irrelevant sexual orientation is.

But wait, he's a sell-out, he's opportunistic... so it couldn't possibly be genuine, huh?

Amen, so much undercover bitterness too.

[Hype]

Yes! Such a huge step into making the hip-hop culture less homophobic.

It would be a huge step if someone like Nas, Chuck D or Common said that--not some egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world outside of any opportunity for him to make a profit.

The camel jumps on opportunity.

I would say Jay-Z reaches more of an audience and is probably the most popular male rapper in the world. So I think this is a big step forward actually. At least commercially.

[GetBack]

Yes! Such a huge step into making the hip-hop culture less homophobic.

It would be a huge step if someone like Nas, Chuck D or Common said that--not some egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world outside of any opportunity for him to make a profit.

The camel jumps on opportunity.

I would say Jay-Z reaches more of an audience and is probably the most popular male rapper in the world. So I think this is a big step forward actually. At least commercially.

That's not true. I think Eminem is miles more popular than him in a global aspect. If Eminem embraced the gays the way Jay-Z is publicly doing right now, it would be a bigger step forward (which he kinda did when he collaborated with Elton John for the performance of "Stan" at the Grammys 11 years ago and proved that he wasn't homophobic or a gay-hater).

[MonaBlissa]

Yes! Such a huge step into making the hip-hop culture less homophobic.

It would be a huge step if someone like Nas, Chuck D or Common said that--not some egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world outside of any opportunity for him to make a profit.

The camel jumps on opportunity.

I would say Jay-Z reaches more of an audience and is probably the most popular male rapper in the world. So I think this is a big step forward actually. At least commercially.

That's not true. I think Eminem is miles more popular than him in a global aspect. If Eminem embraced the gays the way Jay-Z is publicly doing right now, it would be a bigger step forward (which he kinda did when he collaborated with Elton John for the performance of "Stan" at the Grammys 11 years ago and proved that he wasn't homophobic or a gay-hater).

Thank you for correcting the stans. Eminem had to face his issues upfront, and not after some presidential moments. And Jay wish he had Em's numbers, and I'm a Mariah Carey fan---so this shows you I'm not an Em supporter.

[truthless]

Yes! Such a huge step into making the hip-hop culture less homophobic.

It would be a huge step if someone like Nas, Chuck D or Common said that--not some egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world outside of any opportunity for him to make a profit.

The camel jumps on opportunity.

I would say Jay-Z reaches more of an audience and is probably the most popular male rapper in the world. So I think this is a big step forward actually. At least commercially.

That's not true. I think Eminem is miles more popular than him in a global aspect. If Eminem embraced the gays the way Jay-Z is publicly doing right now, it would be a bigger step forward (which he kinda did when he collaborated with Elton John for the performance of "Stan" at the Grammys 11 years ago and proved that he wasn't homophobic or a gay-hater).

I have to agree.

[Muzikritik]

Really?! We're comparing Jay-Z to Eminem in terms of gay acceptance?

Yep, cool, Eminem did stand up for it, this is true. But WHY? Because he caused such a controversy in the first place. Some gays were outraged when Em came on to the scene due to his lyrical content - not once, not EVER did Jay-Z incite the type of homophobic pandemonium that Eminem did in his heydey.

So yes, Em did the Elton collabo, but he had ground to make up, didn't he?!?

Sorry, but I find these two completely incomparable in this respect.

[CrazyCrazy]

Sorry I just had to say this made me

Staggering people still believe shit like this.

[GetBack]

Really?! We're comparing Jay-Z to Eminem in terms of gay acceptance?

Yep, cool, Eminem did stand up for it, this is true. But WHY? Because he caused such a controversy in the first place. Some gays were outraged when Em came on to the scene due to his lyrical content - not once, not EVER did Jay-Z incite the type of homophobic pandemonium that Eminem did in his heydey.

So yes, Em did the Elton collabo, but he had ground to make up, didn't he?!?

Sorry, but I find these two completely incomparable in this respect.

My response was in reply of Jay-Z being the most powerful and influential rapper in the world, and that the impact of his statements will instigate a huge change the world somehow, which is not true. I wasn't comparing who had the better or proper way of embracing the gays between him and Eminem.

[neoepzilon]

Yes! Such a huge step into making the hip-hop culture less homophobic.

It would be a huge step if someone like Nas, Chuck D or Common said that--not some egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world outside of any opportunity for him to make a profit.

The camel jumps on opportunity.

I would say Jay-Z reaches more of an audience and is probably the most popular male rapper in the world. So I think this is a big step forward actually. At least commercially.

That's not true. I think Eminem is miles more popular than him in a global aspect. If Eminem embraced the gays the way Jay-Z is publicly doing right now, it would be a bigger step forward (which he kinda did when he collaborated with Elton John for the performance of "Stan" at the Grammys 11 years ago and proved that he wasn't homophobic or a gay-hater).

Eminem is the most popular rapper in the world, definitely. But Jay-Z is the most influential. If Eminem embraced gays like that I wouldn't believe it for a second. He spent too many of his lyrics bashing them.

[MonaBlissa]

Eminem is the most popular rapper in the world, definitely. But Jay-Z is the most influential. If Eminem embraced gays like that I wouldn't believe it for a second. He spent too many of his lyrics bashing them.

Influential? I thought Will Smith took that crown.

[Timmy94]

I think it would be Notorious BIG who is the most influential rapper in the world...

[neoepzilon]

I think it would be Notorious BIG who is the most influential rapper in the world...

He dead.

[MonaBlissa]

I think it would be Notorious BIG who is the most influential rapper in the world...

He dead.

Will Smith is alive having Brits of all ages and races rap the theme to his hit tv show from 16 years ago!

Bye! Love Mona!

[neoepzilon]

I think it would be Notorious BIG who is the most influential rapper in the world...

He dead.

Will Smith is alive having Brits of all ages and races rap the theme to his hit tv show from 16 years ago!

Bye! Love Mona!

What kind of unrelated reply???