Adele :: The "21" Era

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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 19, 2012 12:37 pm

^ what exactly do these figures measure? AI = "audience impression" ?

So does that mean 200m people have listened to one of her songs in the past wk?

Forgive my ignorance! :P
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Postby Timmy94 » Sat May 19, 2012 12:42 pm

You are almost right... I'd just rather say that in that certain week, Adele's songs have been heard 217 mio. times.
People can have heard certain songs multiple times, so we can't say that this airplay impression = people that heard the songs. So for example 22 mio. people could've heard 10 songs of Adele each last week, which would also result into an airplay impression of 217 mio.
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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 19, 2012 12:46 pm

Timmy94 wrote:You are almost right... I'd just rather say that in that certain week, Adele's songs have been heard 217 mio. times.
People can have heard certain songs multiple times, so we can't say that this airplay impression = people that heard the songs. So for example 22 mio. people could've heard 10 songs of Adele each last week, which would also result into an airplay impression of 217 mio.
Yep understood, I didn't really mean 200m individual people.
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 19, 2012 12:47 pm

arab wrote:
arab wrote:9. ADELE - Rumour Has It: 95.710 (- 0.769)
14. ADELE - Set Fire To The Rain: 68.437 (- 1.009)
Rolling In The Deep: 22.209
Someone Like You: 31.052

217.408mln AI combined 8-)
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 19, 2012 1:49 pm

BBC3 showing the Royal Albert Hall concert tonight in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programmes/schedules
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Postby arab » Sat May 19, 2012 3:48 pm

France complete update

Albums
03(04) 21 9,097 [1,370,018] ***21 weeks @ #1***
44(43) 19 1,560 est [~171,260] [Peak: #15]

Singles
30(23) Someone Like You 1,950(est) [~286,350 total] ***4 weeks @ #1***
39(36) Rolling In The Deep 1,520 (est) [~284 220 total] [Peak: #3]
45(37) Set Fire To The Rain 1,300 est [~114,740 total] [Peak: #9]

DVD Music Chart
03(03) Live At Royal Albert Hall ***14 weeks @ #1***
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Postby innocenteyes » Sat May 19, 2012 4:00 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
innocenteyes wrote:If the album is still Top 10 on the ARIA chart tomorrow, which is highly likely, it will have the longest consecutive run in the Top 10, tied with P!nk's I'm Not Dead.
Are you sure? 21 has been in the top 10 since the 10th week consecutively. If it's still in the top 10 tomorrow, its 69th week, this will be 60 consecutive weeks in the top 10.
P!nk's I'm Not Dead has been in the top 10 from its 15th to its 76th week consecutively, which means 62 weeks.
So if 21 is in the top 10 tomorrow, it still needs 2 weeks to do equal to I'm Not Dead and another week, to take over it.
Yep, you're right, that will make 60 consecutive weeks in the Top 10.

P!nk's I'm Not Dead spent 62 consecutive weeks in the Top 10.

Brothers In Arms and Come On Over spent 61 consecutive weeks in the Top 10.
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Postby phoenix83 » Sat May 19, 2012 4:27 pm

innocenteyes wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:
innocenteyes wrote:If the album is still Top 10 on the ARIA chart tomorrow, which is highly likely, it will have the longest consecutive run in the Top 10, tied with P!nk's I'm Not Dead.
Are you sure? 21 has been in the top 10 since the 10th week consecutively. If it's still in the top 10 tomorrow, its 69th week, this will be 60 consecutive weeks in the top 10.
P!nk's I'm Not Dead has been in the top 10 from its 15th to its 76th week consecutively, which means 62 weeks.
So if 21 is in the top 10 tomorrow, it still needs 2 weeks to do equal to I'm Not Dead and another week, to take over it.
Yep, you're right, that will make 60 consecutive weeks in the Top 10.

P!nk's I'm Not Dead spent 62 consecutive weeks in the Top 10.

Brothers In Arms and Come On Over spent 61 consecutive weeks in the Top 10.
Cool. So we are pretty much guaranteed to see Adele breaking yet another record in 3 wks time. 8-)
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Postby jochen » Sat May 19, 2012 4:54 pm

how much did her 21 album sold ww by now? i lost track.
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Postby rundmck » Sat May 19, 2012 4:55 pm

NorfolkScot wrote:BBC3 showing the Royal Albert Hall concert tonight in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programmes/schedules
I wonder what sort of effect a BBC3 showing will have on 21's sales. I would imagine it'll be pretty small, but there's bound to be some positive impact.
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Postby cooldeepak » Sat May 19, 2012 5:01 pm

jochen wrote:how much did her 21 album sold ww by now? i lost track.
21.5 million by mediatraffic
23 million by Forbes
24 million by music chart and maybe 25 million shipped by ifpi
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 19, 2012 5:01 pm

rundmck wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:BBC3 showing the Royal Albert Hall concert tonight in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programmes/schedules
I wonder what sort of effect a BBC3 showing will have on 21's sales. I would imagine it'll be pretty small, but there's bound to be some positive impact.
It will be small, here is a reading took a few hours ago itunes.

Songs:

91. Someone Like You
107. Set Fire to the Rain
110. Rolling In the Deep
192. Make You Feel My Love
230. Rumour Has It
376. Turning Tables

Albums:

15. 21
77. 19
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 19, 2012 5:05 pm

The correct itunes

21 #14
19 #70

SLY #92
SFTTR #105
RITD #110
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Postby Yoshie » Sat May 19, 2012 5:08 pm

It would be nice to see Turning Tables make a sizeable gain after being performed on The Voice; I hope Cassius does the song justice. :D
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Postby cooldeepak » Sat May 19, 2012 5:09 pm

Mr N.S. u r small :D
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Postby rundmck » Sat May 19, 2012 5:12 pm

arab wrote:Mediatraffic

'19' Sales History (2011-2012)

24.000 - 27.000 - 41.000 - 43.000 - 41.000 - 63.000 - 72.000 - 72.000 - 65.000 - 61.000 - 67.000 - 93.000 - 58.000 - 60.000 - 59.000 - 54.000 - 58.000 - 59.000 - 55.000 - 52.000 - 57.000 - 55.000 - 60.000 - 66.000 - 49.000 - 45.000 - 49.000 - 51.000 - 50.000 - 47.000 - 46.000 - 46.000 - 53.000 - 59.000 - 57.000 - 49.000 - 44.000 - 42.000 - 45.000 - 50.000 - 49.000 - 45.000 - 45.000 - 40.000 - 44.000 - 52.000 - 56.000 - 70.000 – 92.000 – 137.000 – 71.000 – 52.000 - 44.000 - 40.000 - 42.000 - 42.000 - 60.000 - 131.000 - 84.000 – 71.000 – 54.000 – 52.000 – 42.000 – 39.000 – 48.000 – 38.000 – 33.000 – 31.000 – 31.000 – 34.000

1.039.000 (2012 total)
3.817.000 TOTAL

19 ~5.19mln (+ ~300k outside top 40)
NorfolkScot wrote:Media Traffic

Adele's '21' slides one slot at no.3 (down 9% to 161.000 sales), her former set '19' ranks at no.24 in its 81st week with 31.000 sales. This album sold 5,4 million copies so far, '21' is at 21,44 million now.
I just noticed this little discrepancy in 19's reported ww sales figures, so I thought I would flag it up in case Arab needs to adjust his database.
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 19, 2012 5:13 pm

cooldeepak wrote:Mr N.S. u r small :D
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Postby Timmy94 » Sat May 19, 2012 5:22 pm

@rundmck: The 5.19 mio. are just since 2011, while Mediatraffic shows the entire sales of 19...
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Postby rundmck » Sat May 19, 2012 6:14 pm

Timmy94 wrote:@rundmck: The 5.19 mio. are just since 2011, while Mediatraffic shows the entire sales of 19...
No Timmy, the total since 2011 is 3.817 million, as Arab has correctly put in his regular post. Those sales are indisputable within the 'Mediatraffic reasoning', as they have been tracked since 19 started selling well again upon the release of 21 at the start of 2011.
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Postby arab » Sat May 19, 2012 6:16 pm

rundmck wrote:I just noticed this little discrepancy in 19's reported ww sales figures, so I thought I would flag it up in case Arab needs to adjust his database.
I think it's correct, cause when you add the sales outside top 40(~300k), then total sales will go up to ~5.49mln
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Postby rundmck » Sat May 19, 2012 6:18 pm

arab wrote:
rundmck wrote:I just noticed this little discrepancy in 19's reported ww sales figures, so I thought I would flag it up in case Arab needs to adjust his database.
I think it's correct, cause when you add the sales outside top 40(~300k), then total sales will go up to ~5.49mln
That's great, thanks Arab
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Postby arab » Sat May 19, 2012 6:26 pm

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You're welcome :wink:
When 19 reaches 6mln mark, I'll verify my estimations :wink: IMO, 19 total sales are higher than those 5.4mln+. When album sales are below 10k, then MT doesn't monitor current sales.
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Postby stollar » Sat May 19, 2012 8:13 pm

What"s the Uk sales for "21" Physical vs Digital.
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Postby rundmck » Sat May 19, 2012 8:15 pm

I just did a Twitter search for 'Adele BBC3'. Loads of really positive comments. Spotted this one, which is a good example of the promo effect:

"Adele on bbc3 wow!!...amazing voice...she makes it look effortless!! #mustbuythealbum"
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat May 19, 2012 8:31 pm

rundmck wrote:I just did a Twitter search for 'Adele BBC3'. Loads of really positive comments. Spotted this one, which is a good example of the promo effect:

"Adele on bbc3 wow!!...amazing voice...she makes it look effortless!! #mustbuythealbum"
The tracks don't seem to be moving up, but the albums are

21 #9 (14)
19 #57 (70)
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