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Postby sonia85 » Mon May 14, 2012 3:41 pm

Hey Mario!

I know Suede albums sales in Japan but i dont know anything about their singles sales. They sold in Japan some singles too?

Thanks
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Postby ferrero » Wed May 16, 2012 5:24 am

Hi Mario/Donavan,

Is there certification for digital albums? I understand they are not included in Oricon charts?
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Postby Nackar » Wed May 16, 2012 6:19 am

ferrero wrote:Hi Mario/Donavan,

Is there certification for digital albums? I understand they are not included in Oricon charts?
Yes, digital albums are certified separately from physical copies!

So far though, there's only ever been ONE album certified Gold (or anything) for digital sales of over 100,000, and that was the "Songs for Japan" charity compilation album.
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Postby ferrero » Wed May 16, 2012 1:01 pm

Nackar wrote:
ferrero wrote:Hi Mario/Donavan,

Is there certification for digital albums? I understand they are not included in Oricon charts?
Yes, digital albums are certified separately from physical copies!

So far though, there's only ever been ONE album certified Gold (or anything) for digital sales of over 100,000, and that was the "Songs for Japan" charity compilation album.
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Postby Nackar » Mon May 21, 2012 7:50 pm

Would anyone have the complete chart run of Che'Nelle's Love Songs? That album had some EXTRAORDINARY longevity (especially for Japan's standards) opening with like 10k or something and now having sold over 270k.

Thanks in advance!
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Postby Pororo » Mon May 21, 2012 10:36 pm

Nackar wrote:Would anyone have the complete chart run of Che'Nelle's Love Songs? That album had some EXTRAORDINARY longevity (especially for Japan's standards) opening with like 10k or something and now having sold over 270k.

Thanks in advance!
Rank Sales
07 10,170
11 12,716
08 13,015
12 14,196
06 14,780
08 12,625
07 11,500
07 13,402
03 14,100
07 11,897
11 8,912
16 7,463
19 6,333
20 5,143
18 4,788
15 5,156
04 12,380
10 8,944
19 8,333
20 6,504
20 6,082
20 5,354
28 5,383
24 4,606
24 4,131
29 2,888
36 2,521
34 3,121
19 4,200
26 3,729
34 2,986
43 2,478
43 2,655
34 3,024
40 2,829
41 3,014
30 3,184
29 2,854
30 2,618
35 2,400
50 2,260
36 2,513
46 1,676

Total sales: 278,863
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Postby Nackar » Tue May 22, 2012 7:32 am

^ You're a hero, Pororo! That's a Timmy-worthy chart run :lol:

Sorry to bother you again so shortly after, but would you happen to have the complete CR for Rihanna's Loud? If you do I'll be forever grateful and not bother you again for a while : P
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Postby hoieagle » Tue May 22, 2012 1:11 pm

Nackar wrote:^ You're a hero, Pororo! That's a Timmy-worthy chart run :lol:

Sorry to bother you again so shortly after, but would you happen to have the complete CR for Rihanna's Loud? If you do I'll be forever grateful and not bother you again for a while : P
20/2/2012 - 164 - 612
13/2/2012 - 144 - 657
6/2/2012 - 239 - 495
30/1/2012 - 143 - 680
23/1/2012 - 125 - 762
16/1/2012 - 81 - 1143
9/1/2012 - 107 - 979
2/1/2012 - 165 - 982
26/12/2011 - 142 - 880
19/12/2011 - 158 - 833
12/12/2011 - 176 - 647
5/12/2011 - 163 - 755
28/11/2011 - 149 - 627
21/11/2011 - 153 - 636
14/11/2011 - 157 - 649
7/11/2011 - 216 - 572
31/10/2011 - 177 - 616
24/10/2011 - 184 - 559
17/10/2011 - 187 - 567
26/9/2011 - 255 - 384
12/9/2011 - 214 - 447
5/9/2011 - 194 - 543
29/8/2011 - 195 - 492
22/8/2011 - 208 - 502
15/8/2011 - 196 - 526
8/8/2011 - 202 - 553
1/8/2011 - 183 - 553
25/7/2011 - 177 - 563
18/7/2011 - 178 - 605
11/7/2011 - 164 - 704
4/7/2011 - 177 - 750
27/6/2011 - 152 - 695
20/6/2011 - 141 - 724
13/6/2011 - 110 - 923
6/6/2011 - 99 - 1169
30/5/2011 - 71 - 1039
23/5/2011 - 75 - 1077
16/5/2011 - 69 - 1659
9/5/2011 - 86 - 1613
2/5/2011 - 73 - 1481
25/4/2011 - 73 - 1555
18/4/2011 - 66 - 1733
11/4/2011 - 39 - 2020
4/4/2011 - 35 - 2171
28/3/2011 - 49 - 1739
21/3/2011 - 43 - 2283
14/3/2011 - 29 - 3607
7/3/2011 - 23 - 4269
28/2/2011 - 19 - 4915
21/2/2011 - 11 - 5463
14/2/2011 - 12 - 6347
7/2/2011 - 12 - 9265
31/1/2011 - 5 - 11703
24/1/2011 - 52 - 2226
17/1/2011 - 46 - 2675
10/1/2011 - 47 - 2731
3/1/2011 - 54 - 3284
27/12/2010 - 47 - 3584
20/12/2010 - 39 - 4544
13/12/2010 - 26 - 5769
6/12/2010 - 17 - 7806
29/11/2010 - 11 - 8933
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Postby ferrero » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:04 pm

i know this is a long shot but can Mario post all known album and single sales for Faye Wong? Thanks!
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Postby Pororo » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:40 pm

Japan will have 2 million+ albums next week, while the US is still at 1! :lol:

2012 Top-50 YTD Oricon chart:

*1 1,029,233 Mr.Children 2005-2010 <macro> / Mr.Children 12/05/10
*2 *,991,474 Mr.Children 2001-2005 <micro> / Mr.Children 12/05/10
*3 *,750,461 EXILE JAPAN/Solo / EXILE/EXILE ATSUSHI 12/01/01
*4 *,396,509 NEWTRAL / IKIMONOGAKARI 12/02/29
*5 *,322,861 YUZU YOU[2006-2011] / Yuzu 12/04/25
*6 *,304,095 Kis-My-1st / Kis-My-Ft2 12/03/28
*7 *,281,254 Super Girl / KARA 11/11/23
*8 *,258,721 Funky Monkey Babys 4 / FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 11/12/21
*9 *,236,825 BUTTERFLY / L'Arc-en-Ciel 12/02/08
10 *,211,862 1969 / Pink Martini & Saori Yuki 11/10/12
11 *,208,380 GIRLS' GENERATION / Girls Generation
12 *,206,951 The beginning / Ayaka 12/02/01
13 *,165,872 BEST HIT AKG / ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION 12/01/18
14 *,162,840 [2012] / Acid Black Cherry 12/03/21
15 *,151,343 JAPONESQUE / Koda Kumi 12/01/25
16 *,142,869 Party Queen / Ayumi Hamasaki 12/03/21
17 *,133,262 CHAIN / KAT-TUN 12/02/22
18 *,128,959 21 / Adele 11/01/19
19 *,123,434 COVERS / BENI 12/03/21
20 *,122,806 POWER OF TEN / YUKI 12/02/01
21 *,122,187 THE BADDEST~Hit Parade~ / Toshinobu Kubota 11/11/23
22 *,115,907 365 days with you / Sonar Pocket 12/01/25
23 *,108,400 Golden Album / Golden Bomber 12/01/04
24 *,108,256 color bars / Tokyo Jihen 12/01/18
25 *,*96,370 ALIVE / BIGBANG 12/03/28
26 *,*96,289 Spitz / Alternative 12/02/01
27 *,*95,706 Spring ~BEST~ / Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
28 *,*89,768 Pamyu Pamyu Revolution / Kyary Pamyu Pamyu 12/05/23
29 *,*88,035 Kaze Uta Caravan / Naoto Inti Raymi 12/04/18
30 *,*88,009 Just Crazy / Jang Geun Suk 12/05/30
31 *,*87,023 Greatest Hits / Def Tech 12/04/18
32 *,*82,757 Summer ~BEST~ / Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
33 *,*81,162 BORN THIS WAY / Lady Gaga 11/05/23
34 *,*80,973 PANORAMA ****O / PORNO GRAFFITTI 12/03/28
35 *,*80,331 JAPONICANA / JIN AKANISHI 12/03/07
36 *,*80,258 shamanippon -Rakachi no Tohi- / Tsuyoshi Domoto 12/04/11
37 *,*79,033 Fall ~BEST~ / Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
38 *,*78,715 JPN / Perfume 11/11/30 347,129
39 *,*78,582 BIRTHDAY / ClariS 12/04/11
40 *,*78,362 Winter ~BEST~/ Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
41 *,*75,801 MDNA / Madonna 12/03/26
42 *,*75,132 A Different Kind of Truth / Van Halen 12/02/08
43 *,*74,421 Luv Songs / Che'Nelle 11/07/20
44 *,*68,991 Sorry for Party Rocking / LMFAO 11/07/13
45 *,*64,591 EXIT TUNES PRESENTS Vocalodream feat. Hatsune Miku / V.A 12/01/18
46 *,*62,478 SCANDAL SHOW / SCANDAL 12/03/07
47 *,*62,338 guitarium / miwa 12/03/14
48 *,*61,152 Tokyo Jihen Collection / Tokyo Jihen 12/02/15
49 *,*60,965 Stay Alive / Tsuyoshi Nagabuchi 12/05/16
50 *,*60,312 TALK THAT TALK / Rihanna 11/11/26

International Artists:

(18)128,959 "21" Adele
(33) 81,162 "Born This Way" Lady Gaga
(41) 75,801 "MDNA" Madonna
(42) 75,132 "A Different Kind of Truth" Van Halen
(43) 74,421 "Luv Songs" Che'Nelle
(44) 68,991 "Sorry for Party Rocking" LMFAO
(50) 60,312 "Talk That Talk" Rihanna
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Postby Pororo » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:56 pm

hmm.. forum doesn't support Japanese characters! :(
I will edit it, and romanize it!
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Postby Pororo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:52 pm

2nd million+ album in Japan!

2012 Top-50 YTD Oricon chart:

*1 1,056,404 Mr.Children 2005-2010 <macro> / Mr.Children 12/05/10
*2 1,014,597 Mr.Children 2001-2005 <micro> / Mr.Children 12/05/10
*3 *,751,273 EXILE JAPAN/Solo / EXILE/EXILE ATSUSHI 12/01/01
*4 *,397,821 NEWTRAL / IKIMONOGAKARI 12/02/29
*5 *,332,332 YUZU YOU[2006-2011] / Yuzu 12/04/25
*6 *,304,936 Kis-My-1st / Kis-My-Ft2 12/03/28
*7 *,282,657 Super Girl / KARA 11/11/23
*8 *,259,146 Funky Monkey Babys 4 / FUNKY MONKEY BABYS 11/12/21
*9 *,237,424 BUTTERFLY / L'Arc-en-Ciel 12/02/08
10 *,213,648 1969 / Pink Martini & Saori Yuki 11/10/12
11 *,209,679 GIRLS' GENERATION / Girls Generation 11/06/01
12 *,207,383 The beginning / Ayaka 12/02/01
13 *,166,286 BEST HIT AKG / ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION 12/01/18
14 *,163,846 [2012] / Acid Black Cherry 12/03/21
15 *,151,343 JAPONESQUE / Koda Kumi 12/01/25
16 *,143,515 Party Queen / Ayumi Hamasaki 12/03/21
17 *,133,262 CHAIN / KAT-TUN 12/02/22
18 *,130,767 21 / Adele 11/01/19
19 *,123,434 COVERS / BENI 12/03/21
20 *,126,578 JUMP WORLD / HEY!SAY!JUMP 12/06/06
21 *,122,806 POWER OF TEN / YUKI 12/02/01
22 *,122,633 THE BADDEST~Hit Parade~ / Toshinobu Kubota 11/11/23
23 *,116,434 365 days with you / Sonar Pocket 12/01/25
24 *,109,042 Golden Album / Golden Bomber 12/01/04
25 *,108,256 color bars / Tokyo Jihen 12/01/18
26 *,*97,573 ALIVE / BIGBANG 12/03/28
27 *,*97,348 Pamyu Pamyu Revolution / Kyary Pamyu Pamyu 12/05/23
28 *,*96,514 Just Crazy / Jang Geun Suk 12/05/30
29 *,*96,289 Spitz / Alternative 12/02/01
30 *,*95,706 Spring ~BEST~ / Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
31 *,*90,211 Greatest Hits / Def Tech 12/04/18
32 *,*89,413 Kaze Uta Caravan / Naoto Inti Raymi 12/04/18
33 *,*83,109 Summer ~BEST~ / Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
34 *,*82,585 BORN THIS WAY / Lady Gaga 11/05/23
35 *,*81,416 PANORAMA ****O / PORNO GRAFFITTI 12/03/28
36 *,*80,331 JAPONICANA / JIN AKANISHI 12/03/07
37 *,*80,258 shamanippon -Rakachi no Tohi- / Tsuyoshi Domoto 12/04/11
38 *,*79,304 BIRTHDAY / ClariS 12/04/11
39 *,*79,262 JPN / Perfume 11/11/30 347,129
40 *,*79,033 Fall ~BEST~ / Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
41 *,*78,362 Winter ~BEST~/ Ketsumeishi 11/12/21
42 *,*76,974 MDNA / Madonna 12/03/26
43 *,*75,566 Luv Songs / Che'Nelle 11/07/20
44 *,*75,132 A Different Kind of Truth / Van Halen 12/02/08
45 *,*70,398 Sorry for Party Rocking / LMFAO 11/07/13
46 *,*65,303 EXIT TUNES PRESENTS Vocalodream feat. Hatsune Miku / V.A 12/01/18
47 *,*64,980 Stay Alive / Tsuyoshi Nagabuchi 12/05/16
48 *,*62,478 SCANDAL SHOW / SCANDAL 12/03/07
49 *,*62,388 VOCALIST VINTAGE / Hideaki Tokunaga 12/05/30
50 *,*62,338 guitarium / miwa 12/03/14


International Artists:

(18)130,767 "21" Adele
(34) 82,585 "Born This Way" Lady Gaga
(42) 76,974 "MDNA" Madonna
(43) 75,566 "Luv Songs" Che'Nelle
(44) 75,132 "A Different Kind of Truth" Van Halen
(45) 70,398 "Sorry for Party Rocking" LMFAO
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Postby Pororo » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 pm

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/2014400/full/

article from Oricon;

highest(physical) single sales for foreign groups! (Note: groups, not solo artists)


1. Tohoshinki - 3,104,000
2. The Carpenters - 3,002,000
3. Beegees - 2,473,000
4. Simon & Garfunkel - 2,212,000
5. Beatles - 2,202,000
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Postby LostAvenger » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:47 pm

The #1 group is Korean then? :-?
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Postby Nackar » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:27 pm

LostAvenger wrote:The #1 group is Korean then? :-?
Yeah. So, in my honest opinion, the record doesn't really count as they, despite being Korean, release music the Japanese way, i.e. every single physical release, and with all the idol-related promo included (multiple versions, promotional events), and even sing in Japanese.

That doesn't compare to any of those other acts.
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Postby LostAvenger » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:31 pm

That's what I was wondering. Their nationality may be foreign, but the music certainly isn't. That's why I'm always confused as to why KARA and other Korean acts are always listed as "Western" on RIAJ's certifications page whenever they release J-Pop music. :-?
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Postby Pororo » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:21 am

Nackar wrote:
LostAvenger wrote:The #1 group is Korean then? :-?
Yeah. So, in my honest opinion, the record doesn't really count as they, despite being Korean, release music the Japanese way, i.e. every single physical release, and with all the idol-related promo included (multiple versions, promotional events), and even sing in Japanese.

That doesn't compare to any of those other acts.
LostAvenger wrote:That's what I was wondering. Their nationality may be foreign, but the music certainly isn't. That's why I'm always confused as to why KARA and other Korean acts are always listed as "Western" on RIAJ's certifications page whenever they release J-Pop music. :-?
They are Korean, they are foreign artists so the record still counts of course! Adele releasing music in the US she is still foreign/British. Celine Dion, Lara Fabian releasing French music in France, they are still foreign/international artists.

Only KARA has been listed as Western/International by RIAJ, but they do this accordingly to how the record label has listed them to the RIAJ. What's the difference?? I can only think of the Album rental market. It's still quite a big market and for International artists the albums are only available after 1 year.
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Postby larces » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:28 pm

Was Born To Die by Lana Del Rey released in Japan? If so, is there any sales info?
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Postby Nackar » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:32 pm

Pororo wrote:
They are Korean, they are foreign artists so the record still counts of course! Adele releasing music in the US she is still foreign/British. Celine Dion, Lara Fabian releasing French music in France, they are still foreign/international artists.
I think you missed my point. My point was that Tohoshinki release music LIKE Japanese bands do, NOT like foreign bands.

The Carpenters, The Beatles, all those released singles like Western acts, i.e. generally only for lead singles or the occasional single, just one version, and that's it.

TVXQ release music like all the other Japanese idols. lots of releases, tons of different versions with different jacket covers etc, concert sales, handshake events, other kinds of promo, tons of performances for every release. In terms of that, there is no way the two are even remotely related.

So yes, I agree the records stands purely on the basis of their nationality, but I think the circumstances are so vastly different that it's not entirely fair.
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Postby Pororo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:19 pm

larces wrote:Was Born To Die by Lana Del Rey released in Japan? If so, is there any sales info?
Yes the album was released on Feb. 8 2012.

Let me check if I can find the sales info!

Nackar wrote:
Pororo wrote:
They are Korean, they are foreign artists so the record still counts of course! Adele releasing music in the US she is still foreign/British. Celine Dion, Lara Fabian releasing French music in France, they are still foreign/international artists.
I think you missed my point. My point was that Tohoshinki release music LIKE Japanese bands do, NOT like foreign bands.

The Carpenters, The Beatles, all those released singles like Western acts, i.e. generally only for lead singles or the occasional single, just one version, and that's it.

TVXQ release music like all the other Japanese idols. lots of releases, tons of different versions with different jacket covers etc, concert sales, handshake events, other kinds of promo, tons of performances for every release. In terms of that, there is no way the two are even remotely related.

So yes, I agree the records stands purely on the basis of their nationality, but I think the circumstances are so vastly different that it's not entirely fair.
Yes I understood your post and I agree they are different type of artists, but your initial post said that you don't really think the record counts and that's what I disagreed with.

It is similar to Celine Dion in France, she holds many records as a foreign/international artist even though some might think it's not be fair cause she released french music and others don't. But the point is she is still a foreign/international artist even if she sings in French.

If hypothetically, a Dutch artist singing in German really blows up in Germany, he would still be considered a foreign/international artist regardless of what language he sings in. If an American band singing in Japanese became really succesfull in Japan, they are still a foreign artist. Or if Che'nelle suddenly sells physical singles like she does digitally, she will always be a foreign artist. Maybe not comparable/fair to other international artists, but the record is still official!
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Postby Nackar » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:33 pm

And I never contented that ; )

So in the end, we agree!
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Postby Pororo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:51 pm

larces wrote:Was Born To Die by Lana Del Rey released in Japan? If so, is there any sales info?
It charted for 8 weeks before it fell out of the top-300.

Total sales: 8,640
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Postby phoenix83 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:56 pm

Pororo wrote:
larces wrote:Was Born To Die by Lana Del Rey released in Japan? If so, is there any sales info?
Yes the album was released on Feb. 8 2012.

Let me check if I can find the sales info!

Nackar wrote:
Pororo wrote:
They are Korean, they are foreign artists so the record still counts of course! Adele releasing music in the US she is still foreign/British. Celine Dion, Lara Fabian releasing French music in France, they are still foreign/international artists.
I think you missed my point. My point was that Tohoshinki release music LIKE Japanese bands do, NOT like foreign bands.

The Carpenters, The Beatles, all those released singles like Western acts, i.e. generally only for lead singles or the occasional single, just one version, and that's it.

TVXQ release music like all the other Japanese idols. lots of releases, tons of different versions with different jacket covers etc, concert sales, handshake events, other kinds of promo, tons of performances for every release. In terms of that, there is no way the two are even remotely related.

So yes, I agree the records stands purely on the basis of their nationality, but I think the circumstances are so vastly different that it's not entirely fair.
Yes I understood your post and I agree they are different type of artists, but your initial post said that you don't really think the record counts and that's what I disagreed with.

It is similar to Celine Dion in France, she holds many records as a foreign/international artist even though some might think it's not be fair cause she released french music and others don't. But the point is she is still a foreign/international artist even if she sings in French.

If hypothetically, a Dutch artist singing in German really blows up in Germany, he would still be considered a foreign/international artist regardless of what language he sings in. If an American band singing in Japanese became really succesfull in Japan, they are still a foreign artist. Or if Che'nelle suddenly sells physical singles like she does digitally, she will always be a foreign artist. Maybe not comparable/fair to other international artists, but the record is still official!
I agree with all this, however, there should be some kind of records for 'English language artists/albums/singles' in Japan.

Much like Adele's 21 spent longer at No 1 in France than any other English-language album by a soloist.
http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/ <---- Brilliant blog about all the UK No 1 albums.
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Postby Pororo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:20 pm

^ Oh yes they do often report for Western/english language records and they also report records for "Non-Japanese Asian". When Tohoshinki got their 3rd #1 they were the first Non-Japanese Asian artists to get 3 #1s.(surpassing a Chinese singer who had 2 #1s)

But in this case they surpassed the carpenters as the highest selling foreign artists so they reported that. (And they were ofcourse already the highest selling Non-Japanese Asian artist :lol:)
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Postby larces » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:13 am

Pororo wrote:
larces wrote:Was Born To Die by Lana Del Rey released in Japan? If so, is there any sales info?
It charted for 8 weeks before it fell out of the top-300.

Total sales: 8,640
Thank you very much! :D
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