Alanis Morissette :: The "Havoc And Bright Lights"

by **joao** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:26 pm

clh_hilary wrote:
jszmiles wrote:^You've forgot about Nickelback and Train - both are rock bands with huge hits in US...

Shame it has flopped so badly in US. I thought the promo she has made would be enough to have decent hit. I am worrying about chart performance of the album now. Before, I thought album is dead cert. for being #1...
Train is hardly rock. And she hasn't got a #1 album since 2002. But makes you think her album would debut #1, in any given week?

Her last album opened with 70k, which would have been enough for #1 if released on a slow week. However, each of her releases tends to sell less then its predecessor, so I expect the new album to open between 40-50k. She will perform on Ellen tonight, and there´s still a video to be released from the song... not that I expect it to be huge, but at least hang around for a little longer...

by **srtrukk** » Wed May 23, 2012 3:31 am

I think the song can do better than Underneath on both sales and airplay. I still think Havoc has lots of chances of doing better than Flavours, specially because she's promoting better than before.

Hope there are more singles from this album, with performances and music videos. She has wasted lots of single-potential (and even hit-potential) songs during her career, that's very unfair. :-?

Last FM · by **arab** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:30 pm

ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 2.768

by **clh_hilary** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:56 pm

joao wrote:
clh_hilary wrote:
jszmiles wrote:^You've forgot about Nickelback and Train - both are rock bands with huge hits in US...

Shame it has flopped so badly in US. I thought the promo she has made would be enough to have decent hit. I am worrying about chart performance of the album now. Before, I thought album is dead cert. for being #1...
Train is hardly rock. And she hasn't got a #1 album since 2002. But makes you think her album would debut #1, in any given week?
Her last album opened with 70k, which would have been enough for #1 if released on a slow week. However, each of her releases tends to sell less then its predecessor, so I expect the new album to open between 40-50k. She will perform on Ellen tonight, and there´s still a video to be released from the song... not that I expect it to be huge, but at least hang around for a little longer...

And 40-50k would only give her a number one in one single given week throughout the history of Pop music...

by **MrRager** » Wed May 23, 2012 3:20 pm

arab wrote:ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 2.768

AirPlay is decent for now.. Has it been added to Radio yet?

by **Timmy94** » Wed May 23, 2012 3:31 pm

clh_hilary wrote:And 40-50k would only give her a number one in one single given week throughout the history of Pop music...

???

There have been 3 weeks when the No. 1 album on Billboard 200 sold between 40-50k copies...

by **srtrukk** » Fri May 25, 2012 4:48 pm

ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 3.013

Still gaining!

by **jpguy** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:42 pm

srtrukk wrote:ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 3.013

Still gaining!

BUt it's so low! I don't think there's any chance this might even be a small hit!!!

by **GoodBoyGoneBad** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:45 pm

Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100

19 NEW 1 Guardian - Alanis Morissette

Billboard Canada Hot 100

65 NEW 1 Guardian - Alanis Morissette

by **srtrukk** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:07 pm

jpguy wrote:
srtrukk wrote:ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 3.013

Still gaining!
BUt it's so low! I don't think there's any chance this might even be a small hit!!!

Yes, it's low... I just hope it does better than Underneath on radio. If it does, I think it'll be an achievement for her (first lead single to beat the previous one! :lol:

).

And there's still a music video to be released. Maybe if she could make another live performance on TV next tuesday or something... it could keep the song "alive" at least until the video's release, which I believe will be in mid june.

by **srtrukk** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:08 pm

GoodBoyGoneBad wrote:Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100

19 NEW 1 Guardian - Alanis Morissette

Billboard Canada Hot 100

65 NEW 1 Guardian - Alanis Morissette

Too bad she flopped so hard in Canada, Underneath made it to #15, which looks like a hit compared to this. What happened?

by **mattsky** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:16 pm

It it weren't for ukmix, I wouldn't even know this track exists. She needs huge promo cause I am sure people are gonna love it when they finally hear it,

by **stevyy** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:35 pm

mattsky wrote:It it weren't for ukmix, I wouldn't even know this track exists. She needs huge promo cause I am sure people are gonna love it when they finally hear it,

but she did some promo in the US.. dancing with the stars and ellen.. this is of course not enough.. but still better than nothing.

i have actually no hope anymore, that the album would sell decently.. but i believe it will be amazing regardless.

by **Timmy94** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:57 pm

stevyy wrote:i have actually no hope anymore, that the album would sell decently.. but i believe it will be amazing regardless.

I actually believe she'll constantly drop from album to album until she has a hit single to keep off the falling trend (much like her RNB colleague Mary J Blige with Be Without You).
For the moment I believe in a debut with 40-50k (Flavors debuted with 70k) and a total of around 150k (Flavors had ~ 230k), unlike something unexpected happens of course...

by **srtrukk** » Fri May 25, 2012 8:06 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
stevyy wrote:i have actually no hope anymore, that the album would sell decently.. but i believe it will be amazing regardless.
I actually believe she'll constantly drop from album to album until she has a hit single to keep off the falling trend (much like her RNB colleague Mary J Blige with Be Without You).
For the moment I believe in a debut with 40-50k (Flavors debuted with 70k) and a total of around 150k (Flavors had ~ 230k), unlike something unexpected happens of course...

I believe a more organic and raw (maybe rockier) sound could raise her sales. This electronic thing has been destroying her career since URS, to be honest (in my opinion, of course :-?

).

Many people are saying "Guardian" is better than anything on FOE or SCC because it's "rockier" (or should I say Jaggedlittlepillier?) than Underneath, for example.

I don't agree completely with that; first, because I think Guardian has nothing to do with Jagged Little Pill nor SFIJ, it's more like a mix between URS and SCC eras (it's a very pop song and lacks the post-grunge rock element that characterized her first two albums). Second, because I think the problem with FOE were the singles. Maybe Alanis should release more alternative songs as singles instead of radio friendly songs (since she's not getting any airplay anyway :lol:

), like "Versions Of Violence", "Torch" and "Tapes", for example.

"Underneath" and "Guardian" are good songs, but they're too "safe" to make any great effect even between fans. Her second US single for SFIJ, "Unsent", is a very alternative song with no bridge nor chorus, it flopped very hard in the US, but together with an original music video, after all these years it's seen as a masterpiece between fans.

by **tada** » Sat May 26, 2012 4:31 am

So glad it toppled "Underneath", it makes its debut on Billboard Bubbling Under, which U had not!

maybe they should have waited lil bit longer, after video and more promo!

by **upushme** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:55 am

mattsky wrote:It it weren't for ukmix, I wouldn't even know this track exists.

Same for me. Anyway welcome back, Alanis. Can't wait to hear your album!

by **Kut** » Sat May 26, 2012 12:12 pm

GoodBoyGoneBad wrote:Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100

19 NEW 1 Guardian - Alanis Morissette

Billboard Canada Hot 100

65 NEW 1 Guardian - Alanis Morissette

Great for Alanis :lol:

It's so much better than "Underneath," which did not even debut at BU
It's her best peak since "Everything" at #76, 2004.

by **clh_hilary** » Sat May 26, 2012 1:50 pm

HOT AC - 12th day
37 (+1)
ALANIS MORISSETTE
GUARDIAN
Spins: 355 (+22)
Bullet: 169 (+29) - Peak bullet: 189
Audience Impression: 2.842 million (+0.037 million)

TRIPLE A - 8th day
42 (+1)
ALANIS MORISSETTE
GUARDIAN
Spins: 59 (+3)
Bullet: 16 (+2) - Peak bullet: 46
Audience Impression: 0.150 million (+0.024 million)

Not Top 50 in any other format.

Alanis currently ranks as the 671th iTunes artist globally.

Ironic
#106 United Kingdom
#201 Ireland
#346 Bulgaria

Guardian
#190 Canada

Head Over Feet
#332 Paraguay
#400 Bulgaria

Hand In My Pocket
#347 Bulgaria

You Oughta Know
#399 Bulgaria

Alanis Morissette: The Collection
#88 Venezuela
#184 Brazil
#221 Honduras
#229 Slovenia
#318 Paraguay

Jagged Little Pill
#90 United States :roll:

#262 Canada
#271 Australia
#312 United Kingdom
#326 New Zealand
#333 Ireland

So apparently even with better promotions, she seems to be flopping harder this era. At least it's looking sorta promising on Hot AC, though. And she is not in Top 50 on any Candian format...

But at least we can say it's a Hot AC hit!!! :roll:

by **srtrukk** » Sun May 27, 2012 5:19 pm

ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 3.259

I wonder which was Underneath's peak.

by **joao** » Mon May 28, 2012 12:08 am

clh_hilary wrote:So apparently even with better promotions, she seems to be flopping harder this era. At least it's looking sorta promising on Hot AC, though. And she is not in Top 50 on any Candian format...

But at least we can say it's a Hot AC hit!!!

Has it been released to itunes outside of North America?

by **clh_hilary** » Mon May 28, 2012 5:31 am

joao wrote:
clh_hilary wrote:So apparently even with better promotions, she seems to be flopping harder this era. At least it's looking sorta promising on Hot AC, though. And she is not in Top 50 on any Candian format...

But at least we can say it's a Hot AC hit!!!
Has it been released to itunes outside of North America?

I don't know, why don't you go on iTunes and check the stores?

by **clh_hilary** » Mon May 28, 2012 1:45 pm

HOT AC - 14th day
36 (+1)
ALANIS MORISSETTE
GUARDIAN
Spins: 374 (+16)
Bullet: 130 (-19) - Peak bullet: 189
Audience Impression: 2.859 million (-0.049 million) - Peak AI: 2.908 million

4828 spins from #1, closed 22 spins yesterday. One song passed her on chart today - Katy Perry's "Wide Awake".

TRIPLE A - 10th day
38 (+4)
ALANIS MORISSETTE
GUARDIAN
Spins: 66 (+3)
Bullet: 13 (-2) - Peak bullet: 46
Audience Impression: 0.219 million (+0.019 million)

ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 3.251 (- 0.008) - Peak: 3.259 million

To compare it with her competition, she is currently above:
NELLY FURTADO - Big Hoops (Bigger The Better): 3.006 - Furtado's comeback single
KELLY CLARKSON - Dark Side: 1.151 (+ 0.162) - Clarkson's new single
PHILLIP PHILLIPS - Home: 0.966 (+ 0.121) - New American Idol winning single
KYLIE MINOGUE - Timebomb: 0 (+ 0.000) - Minogue anniversary single

#842 iTunes artist -
Ironic
#133 United Kingdom
#247 Ireland

Guardian
#274 Canada

King of Pain
#335 El Salvador

Jagged Little Pill
#88 United States
#229 Slovakia
#281 Canada
#312 United Kingdom
#319 Ireland
#320 New Zealand

Alanis Morissette: The Collection
#172 Denmark
#221 Venezuela
#274 Honduras
#289 Slovenia
#321 Brazil
#326 Paraguay
#343 Chile

by **jpguy** » Mon May 28, 2012 5:12 pm

To be above Nelly Furtado is quite a milestone! LOL

by **clh_hilary** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:48 pm

HOT AC - 16th day
34 (+1)
ALANIS MORISSETTE
GUARDIAN
Spins: 400 (+13)
Bullet: 108 (-13) - Peak bullet: 189
Audience Impression: 2.868 million (+0.080 million) - Peak AI: 2.908 million

4854 spins from #1, distanced by 12 spins today. 4 spins from #33 (-11). 212 spins from closest competitor behind, closed 18 spins today.

TRIPLE A - 12th day
37 (+2)
ALANIS MORISSETTE
GUARDIAN
Spins: 80 (+10)
Bullet: 29 (+10) - Peak bullet: 46
Audience Impression: 0.269 million (+0.054 million)

459 spins from #1, closed 9 spin today. 5 spins away from #36, closed 11 spins today. No song in the Top 50 below it has a bigger spins gain today.

ALANIS MORISSETTE - Guardian: 3.312 (+0.141) - *Estimated

#734 iTunes Artists today (+20 spots)

Orchid
#86 Nicaragua

Uninvited
#158 El Salvador

Ironic
#232 United Kingdom

Guardian
#266 Canada

Simple Together
#302 Czech Republic

Thank You
#321 Venezuela

Hands Clean
#341 Venezuela

Jagged Little Pill
#83 Ireland
#256 Australia
#280 United States
#285 Canada
#328 New Zealand
#353 United Kingdom
#387 Slovakia

Alanis Morissette: The Collection
#322 Paraguay
#326 Venezuela
#352 Honduras
#354 Slovenia
#373 Brazil

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