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toni_pest wrote:This Gaga-Madonna shit is so old and boring. Madonna is just an old hoe trying to stay relevant and has been that for years.
pcdm3 wrote:toni_pest wrote:This Gaga-Madonna shit is so old and boring. Madonna is just an old hoe trying to stay relevant and has been that for years.![]()
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Toni are you high boo?? I knew you were a Gaga fan but never thought you were one of those so-called "little monsters"![]()
dragging Madge to the hell's pits...
toni_pest wrote:This Gaga-Madonna shit is so old and boring. Madonna is just an old hoe trying to stay relevant and has been that for years.
LOL Christina Aguilera is an irrelevant has-been.. let's not bring her to the table and keep her in the corner where she belongs.Baditude wrote:![]()
Yes.
I remember when Christina Aguilera was allegedly beefing with Gaga. I wonder why people dislike her after their career has gone to shit.
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.pcdm3 wrote:LOL Christina Aguilera is an irrelevant has-been.. let's not bring her to the table and keep her in the corner where she belongs.Baditude wrote:![]()
Yes.
I remember when Christina Aguilera was allegedly beefing with Gaga. I wonder why people dislike her after their career has gone to shit.
How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
I get what he's saying. Good comparison would be The Rolling Stones, whose tours continue to be events and gross hundreds of millions and people of all ages go see them, but few would make the case that as of 2012 they are a currently relevant band, especially when 90% of their setlist comes from the 60s and 70s.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
Weirdly enough, sold-out, huge, successful touring almost always confirms an artist's irrelevance in the current music scene, in regards to sales of singles and albums. Madonna is definitely a legendary, iconic, fill-in-grandiose-adjective-here artist, but she's not relevant to the current music scene.
Also, Madonna has had 29 years to establish a worldwide following, especially considering the immense popularity she had during the 80s, 90s, and early 00s. I would expect nothing less than sold-out concerts for a person of her stature.
I knew you would.NothingFails wrote:I get what he's saying. Good comparison would be The Rolling Stones, whose tours continue to be events and gross hundreds of millions and people of all ages go see them, but few would make the case that as of 2012 they are a currently relevant band, especially when 90% of their setlist comes from the 60s and 70s.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
Weirdly enough, sold-out, huge, successful touring almost always confirms an artist's irrelevance in the current music scene, in regards to sales of singles and albums. Madonna is definitely a legendary, iconic, fill-in-grandiose-adjective-here artist, but she's not relevant to the current music scene.
Also, Madonna has had 29 years to establish a worldwide following, especially considering the immense popularity she had during the 80s, 90s, and early 00s. I would expect nothing less than sold-out concerts for a person of her stature.
Yep the discussion about relevance has nothing to do with quality. I love current music from a lot of artists who are no longer deemed "relevant" (Kate Bush, Alanis, Annie Lennox, Duran Duran, Pet Shop Boys, Prince, Cyndi Lauper, Depeche Mode, Springsteen, Bjork, Garbage, Stevie Nicks, Sinead O'Connor, to name a few have made great recent music I personally loved despite some of those artists achieving a fraction of the popularity, sales and impact they had in their prime) but honestly Madonna has never been as unpopular to the general masses as she's been the past few years. She still has a solid fanbase and her tours will always do well and her albums will perform "okay", but nowadays she's definitely seen as more as a vet survivor than as someone who is at the pulse of pop culture. Its okay, she's 53, she had a good 15-20 years where she was at or near the top, she had a great run and there will be a market for whatever she does from here on out, but she's definitely more now at the Stones/Springsteen/McCartney/Stevie Wonder level where she can do whatever she wants, she'll have a fanbase and her concerts will always do big business, but the days of being "it" are over, and its fine, they're all legends)Baditude wrote:I knew you would.NothingFails wrote:I get what he's saying. Good comparison would be The Rolling Stones, whose tours continue to be events and gross hundreds of millions and people of all ages go see them, but few would make the case that as of 2012 they are a currently relevant band, especially when 90% of their setlist comes from the 60s and 70s.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
Weirdly enough, sold-out, huge, successful touring almost always confirms an artist's irrelevance in the current music scene, in regards to sales of singles and albums. Madonna is definitely a legendary, iconic, fill-in-grandiose-adjective-here artist, but she's not relevant to the current music scene.
Also, Madonna has had 29 years to establish a worldwide following, especially considering the immense popularity she had during the 80s, 90s, and early 00s. I would expect nothing less than sold-out concerts for a person of her stature.![]()
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Exactly. The Rolling Stones comparison is the most apt.
Lol, you makes it look as it was a due going on a succesfull tour as Madge does: nothing is more wrong than that, as Madge still is more succesfull on that department of any other modern starlette, and there is no other pop peer female old act which could compete with her, Tina included.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
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Tina Turner?Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
Weirdly enough, sold-out, huge, successful touring almost always confirms an artist's irrelevance in the current music scene, in regards to sales of singles and albums. Madonna is definitely a legendary, iconic, fill-in-grandiose-adjective-here artist, but she's not relevant to the current music scene.
Also, Madonna has had 29 years to establish a worldwide following, especially considering the immense popularity she had during the 80s, 90s, and early 00s. I would expect nothing less than sold-out concerts for a person of her stature.
Tina Turner sells out stadium just like madge & she's been in the game longer than madonna for you informationIshibaXMakuza wrote:Tina Turner?Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
Weirdly enough, sold-out, huge, successful touring almost always confirms an artist's irrelevance in the current music scene, in regards to sales of singles and albums. Madonna is definitely a legendary, iconic, fill-in-grandiose-adjective-here artist, but she's not relevant to the current music scene.
Also, Madonna has had 29 years to establish a worldwide following, especially considering the immense popularity she had during the 80s, 90s, and early 00s. I would expect nothing less than sold-out concerts for a person of her stature.Yeah she'll sell out back yard gigs cause everyone wants to see her
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denise wrote:Lol, you makes it look as it was a due going on a succesfull tour as Madge does: nothing is more wrong than that, as Madge still is more succesfull on that department of any other modern starlette, and there is no other pop peer female old act which could compete with her, Tina included.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
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Madonna is not only having succesfull tour she is breaking alltime record with it: that's pretty different.
NO Cher wouldn't be able to sell out stadium audiences around the world. Forget about it. She's a great performer with a loyal fanbase but she's not on the same league as Madonna worldwide.Dino wrote:denise wrote:Lol, you makes it look as it was a due going on a succesfull tour as Madge does: nothing is more wrong than that, as Madge still is more succesfull on that department of any other modern starlette, and there is no other pop peer female old act which could compete with her, Tina included.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
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Madonna is not only having succesfull tour she is breaking alltime record with it: that's pretty different.
Really are you sure about that im sure tina could. And what about Cher im sure she easily could.
No no.pcdm3 wrote:LOL Christina Aguilera is an irrelevant has-been.. let's not bring her to the table and keep her in the corner where she belongs.Baditude wrote:![]()
Yes.
I remember when Christina Aguilera was allegedly beefing with Gaga. I wonder why people dislike her after their career has gone to shit.
Lol Cher easily could? her everlasting Farewell tour barely grossed half of what the Sticky did: here's the fact.Dino wrote:denise wrote:Lol, you makes it look as it was a due going on a succesfull tour as Madge does: nothing is more wrong than that, as Madge still is more succesfull on that department of any other modern starlette, and there is no other pop peer female old act which could compete with her, Tina included.Baditude wrote:If Tina Turner was touring, I'm sure she'd sell out as well.pcdm3 wrote:How can Madonna be sorta irrelevant when her tour is selling out almost everywhere?Baditude wrote:
True. However, as much as I love Madonna's music (personality is awful, though), she's also become sort of irrelevant, and her music has been mediocre for her last couple albums.
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Madonna is not only having succesfull tour she is breaking alltime record with it: that's pretty different.
Really are you sure about that im sure tina could. And what about Cher im sure she easily could.