Alexandra Burke snubbed by radios: [IT'S DISAPPOINTING]

by **Timmy94** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:10 pm

The expression that Cheryl Cole is only successful because she's white was said by the girl in the video.
And I'd like to add that I've read this about other artists before and I doubt that once a coloured musician flops, it's just because of the skin colour...

by **SholasBoy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:20 am

The theory that a radio station should be fined for not playing a particular artist and somehow relating that to the legality of piracy is both baffling and amusing me here.. :lol:

by **Jesper** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:55 am

UKMusicLova wrote:Whilst she is a bit crazy, I actually think she makes some valid points.

Simon is an awful record exec. Great at the talent show malark but not at promoting a successful artist over a long period.

She's also right about her problems not ending when she left Syco, RCA did her wrong too.

She's also correct about the UK public being quite fickle and making an artist huge one album and then leaving them to flop on the next.

I agree

by **JimJim** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:02 am

UKMusicLova wrote:ALEXANDRA BURKE FLOPS??!!

"I am disgustedddddddd."

"I need the UK to have SE-VE-RAL seats"

OMG, "se-ve-ral seats" :lol:

She talks sense IMO, she *mostly* sticks to the facts and knows her stuff too. I can't believe she managed to talk about it for 12 minutes :lol:

by **GoodBoyGoneBad** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:32 am

UKMusicLova wrote:ALEXANDRA BURKE FLOPS??!!

"I am disgustedddddddd."

"I need the UK to have SE-VE-RAL seats"

"Her first album went platinum, triple platinum, double platinum... I'm not sure, but it wen platinum"

"To me she's the UK version of Beyoncé: beautiful chocolate skin"

"Where's Leona Lewis? [pause] she's nowhere to be found!"

by **aaliyahman** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:29 am

Timmy94 wrote:The expression that Cheryl Cole is only successful because she's white was said by the girl in the video.
And I'd like to add that I've read this about other artists before and I doubt that once a coloured musician flops, it's just because of the skin colour...

No one is saying that in this thread. Only the girl in the video, I thought I made that clear. You still haven't answered my question.

Do you think Cheryl would be as successful if she was a black woman?

by **sambo9** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:34 am

^ I don't think it's as simple as that. Rihanna's success has probably been aided by her ethnicity, because it differentiates her from other female pop stars.

by **Blackberry** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:37 am

Her music this era is ghastly, she deserved to flop.

by **BLover** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:42 am

Blackberry wrote:Her music this era is ghastly, she deserved to flop.

Website · by **muzik_biz_wiz** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:57 pm

Its the problem with X Factor Simon loses interest once someone else becomes cool.

Shayne Ward could've been a megastar but he started focusing on Leona who got ignored when Alexandra came along who got ignored once 1D came along.

They all have/had potential to have long successful careers but I cant see any of them having much success now. He'd/they'd serve better winning the competition being obligated to release 1 album with SyCo and then Simon selling them to other labels.

by **biscuits** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:38 pm

That stan has the highest rated comment on the 'Let It Go' video! :lol:

MadStan wrote:I AM SOOOO PISSED OFF AT THE UK ALEXANDRAS NEW CD DIDNT EVEN ENTER THE TOP TEN!!!! WHY????? NOW SHESA GOING TO BE CONSIDERED A HAS BEEN SHE? NEEDS TO LEAVE THE UK I CANT BREATH RIGHT NOW IM SOO PISSED

by **ECE** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:55 pm

JimJim wrote:
UKMusicLova wrote:ALEXANDRA BURKE FLOPS??!!

"I am disgustedddddddd."

"I need the UK to have SE-VE-RAL seats"
OMG, "se-ve-ral seats"

She talks sense IMO, she *mostly* sticks to the facts and knows her stuff too. I can't believe she managed to talk about it for 12 minutes

All these, gurl cray crayyy :lol:

by **Thriller** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:16 pm

sambo9 wrote:^ I don't think it's as simple as that. Rihanna's success has probably been aided by her ethnicity, because it differentiates her from other female pop stars.

Plus because she's perceived as being American, which automatically makes her cooler.

by **sambo9** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:27 pm

Thriller wrote:
sambo9 wrote:^ I don't think it's as simple as that. Rihanna's success has probably been aided by her ethnicity, because it differentiates her from other female pop stars.
Plus because she's perceived as being American, which automatically makes her cooler.

That's also true.

by **aaliyahman** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:09 pm

sambo9 wrote:
Thriller wrote:
sambo9 wrote:^ I don't think it's as simple as that. Rihanna's success has probably been aided by her ethnicity, because it differentiates her from other female pop stars.
Plus because she's perceived as being American, which automatically makes her cooler.
That's also true.

Exactly, I'm talking about UK artists here. Anyone can share their opinion, on whether Cheryl would be as successful if she looked like Alexandra.

by **sambo9** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:17 pm

Yeah, but it's still not quite as clear cut. If Cheryl looked like a less attractive white person she'd be less successful. Her success lies in her beauty, so I guess if society considers lighter skin to be more beautiful, then I guess you have a valid point. What'd make a better comparison in my opinion, would be to say, what if Beyonce was darker skinned? What if Kelly Rowland was lighter skinned? Would their success be any different?

by **SholasBoy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:19 pm

She's very misinformed. I'm sure she didn't quite make 4 #1s from her first album :lol:

JLS haven't had 10 more albums, the UK probably do listen to more Dance/Pop than soulful and what song is "Wanna Be Startin Somethin" :lol:

by **Serby** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:04 pm

^ She had adrenalin rush, it's normal that she messed up all the numbers :lol:

by **biscuits** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:57 pm

SholasBoy wrote:She's very misinformed. I'm sure she didn't quite make 4 #1s from her first album

JLS haven't had 10 more albums, the UK probably do listen to more Dance/Pop than soulful and what song is "Wanna Be Startin Somethin"

All very good points, which I was going to comment on myself!

Another blip - she says it took 4 years to release her second album. It actually took 2.5 years (or more accurately, 1.5 years since the re-release). . :roll:

by **cristy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:23 pm

biscuits wrote:That stan has the highest rated comment on the 'Let It Go' video!

MadStan wrote:I AM SOOOO PISSED OFF AT THE UK ALEXANDRAS NEW CD DIDNT EVEN ENTER THE TOP TEN!!!! WHY????? NOW SHESA GOING TO BE CONSIDERED A HAS BEEN SHE? NEEDS TO LEAVE THE UK I CANT BREATH RIGHT NOW IM SOO PISSED

by **jpguy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:00 pm

I did watch the whole video, 12 minutes of repeating the same thing hahahaha... God bless her and Alex !

by **Timmy94** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:05 pm

aaliyahman wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:The expression that Cheryl Cole is only successful because she's white was said by the girl in the video.
And I'd like to add that I've read this about other artists before and I doubt that once a coloured musician flops, it's just because of the skin colour...
No one is saying that in this thread. Only the girl in the video, I thought I made that clear. You still haven't answered my question.

Do you think Cheryl would be as successful if she was a black woman?

No, it's not just the girl in the video, I even read it from time to time on this forum

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I think if Cheryl did the same music, had the same background (Girls Aloud) and the same influence with her music videos, her image and her radio presence, then yes no doubt she would be as successful as a black as she is now...

by **aaliyahman** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:19 pm

sambo9 wrote:Yeah, but it's still not quite as clear cut. If Cheryl looked like a less attractive white person she'd be less successful. Her success lies in her beauty, so I guess if society considers lighter skin to be more beautiful, then I guess you have a valid point. What'd make a better comparison in my opinion, would be to say, what if Beyonce was darker skinned? What if Kelly Rowland was lighter skinned? Would their success be any different?

No because regardless of their skin colour, they are American. I'm talking about the UK charts regarding UK home grown talent. Your bolded point lets me know you got what I'm saying, the rest :-?

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by **biscuits** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:21 pm

But if race was a factor, then why did millions of people vote for her to win 'The X Factor' and why did 800,000 people buy 'Overcome'?

by **aaliyahman** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:24 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
aaliyahman wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:The expression that Cheryl Cole is only successful because she's white was said by the girl in the video.
And I'd like to add that I've read this about other artists before and I doubt that once a coloured musician flops, it's just because of the skin colour...
No one is saying that in this thread. Only the girl in the video, I thought I made that clear. You still haven't answered my question.

Do you think Cheryl would be as successful if she was a black woman?
No, it's not just the girl in the video, I even read it from time to time on this forum .

I think if Cheryl did the same music, had the same background (Girls Aloud) and the same influence with her music videos, her image and her radio presence, then yes no doubt she would be as successful as a black as she is now...

I'm not sure you get what I'm saying. Let me rephrase closer to what you've said; would a black Cheryl even get in girls aloud (Javine), get the same influence with her videos and get a radio presence?