Alexandra Burke snubbed by radios: [IT'S DISAPPOINTING]

[aaliyahman]

But if race was a factor, then why did millions of people vote for her to win 'The X Factor' and why did 800,000 people buy 'Overcome'?

Because she was immensely talented throughout; even that can't be taken away from her. Once the X Factor machine ended and the media started in (arrogant, gobby, fake etc see Misha B) and the radio started to snub her, it was lucky that grace period lasted for so long.

[biscuits]

But if race was a factor, then why did millions of people vote for her to win 'The X Factor' and why did 800,000 people buy 'Overcome'?

Because she was immensely talented throughout; even that can't be taken away from her. Once the X Factor machine ended and the media started in (arrogant, gobby etc etc) and the radio started to snub her, where and why did those people go?

That's the important question, and we will all just keep going round in circles. Some may say it's racism, others will say her new material simply isn't good enough to be popular.

Personally, I don't think race is a factor. But I also don't think her new music is to blame, as it is actually better than her first album. I think it all comes down to her not being charismatic or likeable (again, nothing to do with race OR her music).

[CrazyCrazy]

This whole race thing! People are fickle that's it.

[Loveguru]

But if race was a factor, then why did millions of people vote for her to win 'The X Factor' and why did 800,000 people buy 'Overcome'?

Because she was immensely talented throughout; even that can't be taken away from her. Once the X Factor machine ended and the media started in (arrogant, gobby etc etc) and the radio started to snub her, where and why did those people go?

That's the important question, and we will all just keep going round in circles. Some may say it's racism, others will say her new material simply isn't good enough to be popular.

Personally, I don't think race is a factor. But I also don't think her new music is to blame, as it is actually better than her first album. I think it all comes down to her not being charismatic or likeable (again, nothing to do with race OR her music).

Elephant was number 3... so clearly the public likes her stuff..

[Thombus]

But if race was a factor, then why did millions of people vote for her to win 'The X Factor' and why did 800,000 people buy 'Overcome'?

Because she was immensely talented throughout; even that can't be taken away from her. Once the X Factor machine ended and the media started in (arrogant, gobby etc etc) and the radio started to snub her, where and why did those people go?

That's the important question, and we will all just keep going round in circles. Some may say it's racism, others will say her new material simply isn't good enough to be popular.

Personally, I don't think race is a factor. But I also don't think her new music is to blame, as it is actually better than her first album. I think it all comes down to her not being charismatic or likeable (again, nothing to do with race OR her music).

Elephant was number 3... so clearly the public likes her stuff..

Yes, but let's be honest - the follow up sounded too similar to Elephant. Artist has a go at 'dance', great. They have a go at dance pt.II = boring. Coupled with her unlike-ability, that's why she's not done well.

Again, if you're going to do dance, do it properly. Her best bet was probably to go down the soul route (it's currently rising from the dead), or if dub-step (SO many people are getting onto dub-step right now). Pop/dance is very 2010 - she's massively late on this bandwagon.

[Timmy94]

The expression that Cheryl Cole is only successful because she's white was said by the girl in the video.
And I'd like to add that I've read this about other artists before and I doubt that once a coloured musician flops, it's just because of the skin colour...

No one is saying that in this thread. Only the girl in the video, I thought I made that clear. You still haven't answered my question.

Do you think Cheryl would be as successful if she was a black woman?

No, it's not just the girl in the video, I even read it from time to time on this forum .

I think if Cheryl did the same music, had the same background (Girls Aloud) and the same influence with her music videos, her image and her radio presence, then yes no doubt she would be as successful as a black as she is now...

I'm not sure you get what I'm saying. Let me rephrase closer to what you've said; would a black Cheryl even get in girls aloud (Javine), get the same influence with her videos and get a radio presence?

Yes!

[aaliyahman]

The expression that Cheryl Cole is only successful because she's white was said by the girl in the video.
And I'd like to add that I've read this about other artists before and I doubt that once a coloured musician flops, it's just because of the skin colour...

No one is saying that in this thread. Only the girl in the video, I thought I made that clear. You still haven't answered my question.

Do you think Cheryl would be as successful if she was a black woman?

No, it's not just the girl in the video, I even read it from time to time on this forum .

I think if Cheryl did the same music, had the same background (Girls Aloud) and the same influence with her music videos, her image and her radio presence, then yes no doubt she would be as successful as a black as she is now...

I'm not sure you get what I'm saying. Let me rephrase closer to what you've said; would a black Cheryl even get in girls aloud (Javine), get the same influence with her videos and get a radio presence?

Yes!

And that's where the problem lies; delusion.

[Mylostlenore]

Her era for me is ruined by Elephant.

Because most UK Radios have either:
1) Vintage taste
2) Bad taste

Some X-Factor runner ups have achieved more success than the winners.

[deasy55]

Thousands of artists don't get played on mainstream radio, can I make a thread for each and every one of them not getting played too?

[king_oxymoron]

Not all of them got rinsed by the radio stations who are now snubbing them in their first era.

There are clearly lots of things at play here but lets not pretend the radio snub isn't the most massive.

[ginnyfan]

ALEXANDRA BURKE FLOPS??!!

"I am disgustedddddddd."

"I need the UK to have SE-VE-RAL seats"

Is that Serena Williams??

Girl spilled the true tea, love her effort.

[aaliyahman]

Thousands of artists don't get played on mainstream radio, can I make a thread for each and every one of them not getting played too?

Have you totally missed the point or what!?

[deasy55]

Thousands of artists don't get played on mainstream radio, can I make a thread for each and every one of them not getting played too?

Have you totally missed the point or what!?

I ignored the stuff posted in the last 5 pages and responded to the post in the OP where they said it should "banned by law" for certain artists not to be played on mainstream radio.

[aaliyahman]

Thousands of artists don't get played on mainstream radio, can I make a thread for each and every one of them not getting played too?

Have you totally missed the point or what!?

I ignored the stuff posted in the last 5 pages and responded to the post in the OP where they said it should "banned by law" for certain artists not to be played on mainstream radio.

There's much more conext to this. What artists are you talking about though, ones that by their own definition aren't mainstream?

[jpguy]

Thousands of artists don't get played on mainstream radio, can I make a thread for each and every one of them not getting played too?

Have you totally missed the point or what!?

I ignored the stuff posted in the last 5 pages and responded to the post in the OP where they said it should "banned by law" for certain artists not to be played on mainstream radio.

There's much more conext to this. What artists are you talking about though, ones that by their own definition aren't mainstream?

Or maybe those that are not coming from an 800,000 selling album perhaps... or having top 10 hits based on TV Airplay only...