The Beatles :: Charts & Sales History

Moderators: kingofskiffle, seattleboy, arab, AutomaticBR

 

Postby blackbird » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:43 am

stevieb wrote:
blackbird wrote:Hits Daily Double 12/06/2012

37 BEATLES Yellow Submarine Songtrack 9,161
This figure is some way above the Soundscan total, can anyone explain why? Am I missing something?
Looks like they did just some guesswork.
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby blackbird » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:05 pm

blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby bigred » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:24 pm

:lol: Some various updated soundscan totals:
As of 6/10/12 A Hard Days Night 1,476,078
5/6/12 Help 1,546,198
1/1/12 Rubber Soul 2,758,741
5/13/12 Revolver 2,315,605
1/1/12 Pepper 4,416,839
6/10/12 Magical Mystery 1,871,736
1/1/12 White Album 3,776,712
6/10/12 Abbey Road 4,836,659
6/10/12 Let It Be 1,500,616
6/10/12 "1" 12,061,133
1/15/11 67-70 2,790,287
1/15/11 62-66 2,386,674
6/10/12 Yellow Sub Songtrack 854,010
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby bigred » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:00 pm

:lol: I check out a site called greasy lake from time to time that posts beatles sales figures,and for the Yellow Sub Songtrack,they show: Yellow Submarine Songtrack...Gold 920,000,868k-SScanOct2010.
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby blackbird » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:06 pm

bigred wrote::lol: I check out a site called greasy lake from time to time that posts beatles sales figures,and for the Yellow Sub Songtrack,they show: Yellow Submarine Songtrack...Gold 920,000,868k-SScanOct2010.
Do they apply some math to the SoundScan figures?
Perhaps you can post a link to that site?
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby bigred » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:23 pm

blackbird wrote:
bigred wrote::lol: I check out a site called greasy lake from time to time that posts beatles sales figures,and for the Yellow Sub Songtrack,they show: Yellow Submarine Songtrack...Gold 920,000,868k-SScanOct2010.
Do they apply some math to the SoundScan figures?
Perhaps you can post a link to that site?
Here you go:

http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/i ... th-brooks/
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby blackbird » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:10 pm

blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby blackbird » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:13 pm

bigred wrote:
blackbird wrote:
bigred wrote::lol: I check out a site called greasy lake from time to time that posts beatles sales figures,and for the Yellow Sub Songtrack,they show: Yellow Submarine Songtrack...Gold 920,000,868k-SScanOct2010.
Do they apply some math to the SoundScan figures?
Perhaps you can post a link to that site?
Here you go:

http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/i ... th-brooks/
Thanks!
At first sight the SoundScan figures listed are compatible with the ones we use here (with the known exception of YSS).
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby bigred » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:21 am

blackbird wrote:
bigred wrote:
blackbird wrote:
bigred wrote::lol: I check out a site called greasy lake from time to time that posts beatles sales figures,and for the Yellow Sub Songtrack,they show: Yellow Submarine Songtrack...Gold 920,000,868k-SScanOct2010.
Do they apply some math to the SoundScan figures?
Perhaps you can post a link to that site?
Here you go:

http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/i ... th-brooks/
Thanks!
At first sight the SoundScan figures listed are compatible with the ones we use here (with the known exception of YSS).
Yeah, he basically takes Kronemyer figures which go up to 1985,adds Soundscan figures from 1991 to today,and then I believe he guestimates what a album sold from 1986-1991,and totals them all up.He's probably pretty acurate (although I feel a little low for Pepper and Abbey Road).
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby blackbird » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:03 pm

Top 100 Albumes in Spain Week 24: 11/06/2012 - 17/06/2012

TW | LW | WOC | Artist | Title
82 99 32 The Beatles 1
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby brian05 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:04 pm

Obviously the total reported here for October 2010 with 867,853 copies sold were wrong.
The figure 818,735 for week 15 in 2009 seems to fit together with the actual total.
Was the 867,853 figure for re-mastered Yellow Submarine and not the Songtrack version?
brian05
Manager
 
Posts: 1314
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005
Location: N Ireland

Postby blackbird » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:22 pm

brian05 wrote:
Obviously the total reported here for October 2010 with 867,853 copies sold were wrong.
The figure 818,735 for week 15 in 2009 seems to fit together with the actual total.
Was the 867,853 figure for re-mastered Yellow Submarine and not the Songtrack version?
No, SoundScan figure for the Yellow Submarine album was 528,519 for week 46/2009.
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby brian05 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:59 pm

Did IWTHYH really sell 5m in US? Click here.
brian05
Manager
 
Posts: 1314
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005
Location: N Ireland

Postby bigred » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:14 am

brian05 wrote:Did IWTHYH really sell 5m in US? Click here.
Acording to the 5/23/64 edition of Billboard, sales were fast approaching 4 million. Nearly 5 million by September 1968? You Betcha
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby bigred » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:24 am

:lol: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... d&_sacat=0

Heres 339 IWTHYH related items alone on ebay U.S.
Unfortunately,singles in the U.S.could not be certified beyond "million seller status" until 1968.
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby blackbird » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:52 am

bigred wrote::lol: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... d&_sacat=0

Heres 339 IWTHYH related items alone on ebay U.S.
Unfortunately,singles in the U.S.could not be certified beyond "million seller status" until 1968.
Along with the 50th anniversary Capitol Records should sit down and reexamine not only The Beatles' album certifications but also the single certifications - as it was done with the Elvis sales.
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby blackbird » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:27 am

Top Albums France Week 23: 04/06/2012 - 10/06/2012

TW | LW | WOC | Artist | Title
183 re 4 The Beatles Yellow Submarine Songtrack
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby bigred » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:46 pm

blackbird wrote:
bigred wrote::lol: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... d&_sacat=0

Heres 339 IWTHYH related items alone on ebay U.S.
Unfortunately,singles in the U.S.could not be certified beyond "million seller status" until 1968.
Along with the 50th anniversary Capitol Records should sit down and reexamine not only The Beatles' album certifications but also the single certifications - as it was done with the Elvis sales.
I don't know, thats actually asking Capitol Records to put out some effort.Seriously,I would love to see each single get evaluated sales wise,in particular the pre 1968 titles.A lot of their later singles ARE certified as 2 million sellers.
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby brian05 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:11 pm

bigred wrote:Acording to the 5/23/64 edition of Billboard, sales were fast approaching 4 million. Nearly 5 million by September 1968? You Betcha
I gave a scan of that advert a year or so ago. Remember that Topicel said approaching 4m could mean it's sales were 3.4m. Then he used returns to bring it down to 3m.

Click hereto see the advert.
brian05
Manager
 
Posts: 1314
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005
Location: N Ireland

Postby bigred » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:49 pm

brian05 wrote:
bigred wrote:Acording to the 5/23/64 edition of Billboard, sales were fast approaching 4 million. Nearly 5 million by September 1968? You Betcha
I gave a scan of that advert a year or so ago. Remember that Topicel said approaching 4m could mean it's sales were 3.4m. Then he used returns to bring it down to 3m.

Well,at least he didn't bring it down to 50,000.I will repeat here again what I posted a couple of years ago.I have been a collector/dealer of 50's/60's records for over 33 years,have looked at/appraised a ton of record colections over the years,and without a doubt,if theres one single that just keeps on poping up over and over and over again,its good ole capitol 5112 IWTHYH.Far more then any other single,which leads me to the conclusion that if theres so many old copies out there,then by golly it jusy might have really sold what capitol said it did.Just something to take into consideration.
bigred
Manager
 
Posts: 1440
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009

Postby stevieb » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:42 am

stevieb wrote:
brian05 wrote:Yellow Sub is indeed at no. 18 on US.
I use this web site,

http://www.livepopbars.com/av.php?Regio ... 1&Chart=31

It gives the top 100 albums and the top 1022 tracks, and is regularly updated.

Macca did 5 songs at the concert.
Magical mystery tour
All my loving
Live and let die
Let it be
Ob la di ob la da

The final part of the concert had 17m viewers on BBC.
Wow, what a great website!

Not looking too good in Cyprus though.
Things are looking up today, despite the shaky Cypriot economy:
38 Rubber Soul
39 AHDN
71 Abbey Road
stevieb
Roadie
 
Posts: 274
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2010

Postby blackbird » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:37 pm

The Recording Industry in Japan - RIAJ Yearbook 2012
Global Sales of Recorded Music by Country in 2010

Country | Retail Value US$ (millions) | Value of Purchase per Person (US$) | Market Share
Japan - 4,096.9 - 32.3 - 25.4%
U.S.A. - 3,635.2 - 11.7 - 22.5%
Germany - 1,713.6 - 20.8 - 10.6%
U.K. - 1,388.1 - 22.3 - 8.6%
France - 999.6 - 15.4 - 6.2%
Last edited by blackbird on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Postby brian05 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:25 pm

Do you know that a Beatles LP selling at 32 shillings in 1963 is now worth £26.93 in 2012 due to inflation.
So all Beatles sales from 1963 should be increased by a factor of 16. Puts Adeles' sales in perspective!

And don't forget the increase in the record buying market in the UK since 1963.

And a single costing 6/8 in 1963 is now worth £5.61 compared to today's downloads at 59p, 79p and 99p.
brian05
Manager
 
Posts: 1314
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005
Location: N Ireland

Postby stevieb » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:20 pm

brian05 wrote:Do you know that a Beatles LP selling at 32 shillings in 1963 is now worth £26.93 in 2012 due to inflation.
So all Beatles sales from 1963 should be increased by a factor of 16. Puts Adeles' sales in perspective!

And don't forget the increase in the record buying market in the UK since 1963.

And a single costing 6/8 in 1963 is now worth £5.61 compared to today's downloads at 59p, 79p and 99p.
And disposable income was generally less than it is today, and you had to leave your house to go and purchase music, not press a few buttons on a computer.
stevieb
Roadie
 
Posts: 274
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2010

Postby blackbird » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:18 pm

June 2012 by Jeff Cazanov and Greg Feo
Interview: Author of new Beatles Revolver biography
blackbird
Manager
 
Posts: 3138
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010
Location: Berlin, Germany

Return to Artist Chart Analysis