Adele :: The "21" Era

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Postby truthless » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:42 pm

arab wrote:Mediabase update
ADELE - Rumour Has It: 57.716 (- 1.754)

BDS update
ADELE - Rumour Has It, 43 million

Quite big difference
It's alright i guess. If you look at "Somebody", there is a difference from over 50m.
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Postby wave » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:40 pm

LEAVE IT TO BIEBER: Justin Bieber’s one-hour prime-tme NBC special, All Around the World, wasn’t exactly a world-beater, scoring a .9/3-share, down 47% from the network’s Adele: Live in London, which scored a 1.7/5 back on June 3. Bieber pulled in 3.3 million viewers overall, with the second of the two-part special airing tonight at 8 p.m., going up against the NBA Finals on ABC. Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance (6.5 million/2.4) led the night, while ABC’s Duets (4.2 million/1.1) was unchanged from last week.
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Postby Spoffle » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:59 am

HDD predictions for the Top 10:

*Justin Bieber (Island/IDJ) 400-425k
*Kenny Chesney (Blue Chair/Columbia Nashville) 190-210k
*Fiona Apple (Epic) 65-70k
Usher (RCA) 50-55k
Adele (XL/Columbia) 50-55k
Rock of Ages (WaterTower) 45-50k
*Smashing Pumpkins (Martha's Music/EMI Label Services) 45-50k
One Direction (Syco/Columbia) 40-45k
Rush (Roadrunner) 27-30k
Alan Jackson (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 25-28k
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Postby shadesofblack » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:29 am

Numbers were already in above!
Wonder if 21 will stay in top 5 this week.
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Postby arab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:28 am

shadesofblack wrote:Numbers were already in above!
Wonder if 21 will stay in top 5 this week.
Let's hope for even #4 :P I'm so happy that her sales are more stable now, than before the TV special
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Postby AndiIversen » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:47 am

Norway:

VG lista Topp 40 albums:
#2 (lw:#5) 21 (73 weeks)

this albums never stops! 8-) :o
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Postby Masson » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:57 am

Late September 21 might reach diamond in the US.
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Postby arab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:04 pm

Masson wrote:Late September 21 might reach diamond in the US.
Sounds reliable, but I'd say early-mid October. Anyway, I hope you're right :lol:

Ireland
09(07) 21
19 left top 100...

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Postby arab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:16 pm

Poland
07(06) 21 <2xD> ***9 weeks @ #1***
48(40) 19 [Peak: #9]


Canada
01[31,000] – 01[19,000] – 01[15,000] – 02[14,000] – 02 – 02 – 01[15,000] – 02[16,000] – 01[23,000] – 01[22,000] – 01[22,000] – 01[22,000] – 01[25,000] – 02[21,000] – 02[21,000] – 02[17,000] – 02[17,000] – 01[15,000] – 01[13,000] – 01[15,000] – 01[15,000] – 01[14,000] – 01[15,000] – 01[15,000] – 02 – 02[15,500] – 01[17,000] – 03[22,000] – 01[17,000] – 02[20,000] – 01[21,000] – 01[23,000] – 01[21,000] – 01[21,500] – 01[21,000] – 03[18,000] – 03[18,000] – 04 – 03 – 04 – 02[27,500] – 02[36,000] – 02[50,000] – 02 – 01[24,000] – 01[19,000] – 01[14,000] – 01[13,500] – 01[14,000] – 02[13,000] – 01[21,000] – 01[53,000] – 01[28,000] – 01[23,000] – 02[19,000] – 04[~16,000] – 04[~13,000] – 03[12,000] – 03 [~11,000] – 01[10,000] – 03[~10,000] – 02[9,000] – 04[~8,000] – 01[9,000] – 03[~6,200] – 03[5,400] – 01[~8,000] – 06[~6,000]

#1 – 35 weeks
Top 3 – 61 weeks
Top 5 – 66 weeks
Top 10 – 67 weeks
~1,277,600 total

It's the first week outside top 4!
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Postby Timmy94 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:37 pm

@arab: Wasn't 19 still at No. 78 in Ireland last week? If yes, then a straight drop out of the chart is :roll: .

@Canada: Huge drop :o . 25% down and first week out of the top 5 isn't good for this record-breaking album...

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Belgium (Flanders):

Albums Chart:
6 (10) 21 74 weeks (No. 1 for 38 weeks)

Backcatalogue Singles:
30 (26) Make You Feel My Love 74 weeks (No. 1 for 8 weeks)

Music DVD:
5 (7) Live At The Royal Albert Hall 30 weeks (No. 1 for 13 weeks)

Mid Price Albums:
3 (5) 19 75 weeks (No. 1 for 38 weeks)
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Postby innocenteyes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:04 pm

^ Oh yeah for sure, this is not good at all, FLOP ALERT, someone needs to call an ambulance please!

Seriously Timmy, you need to stop overexaggerating things to death about the album's current performance. You almost make it sound as if it was the biggest disappointment of the year.

I suppose there must have been some discounts / or a TV special shown in Canada last week that resulted into an increase in sales when it moved back to #1. Now it's fallen to #6 with weekly sales the album had two / three weeks ago going back its 'normal' sales and chart trajectory.

You have to know that the album will no longer sell like hotcakes every week. The promo is over / no new singles have been released for months now and it's already done entremely well. Its sales will fall slowly but it will turn out to be a very strong catalogue seller. I'm sure that 21 will move many units within the next few years.

Re: Ireland. A drop from #78 to outside the Top 100 is not alarming at all. Sales must be very close at the bottom of the chart, it must be only a few units from the Top 100. Moreover who cares at this point if it's fallen out of the chart. It has already done so well given it's only sold on the back of 21's massive success.
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Postby arab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:18 pm

Timmy94 wrote:@arab: Wasn't 19 still at No. 78 in Ireland last week? If yes, then a straight drop out of the chart is :roll: .

@Canada: Huge drop :o . 25% down and first week out of the top 5 isn't good for this record-breaking album...
Yes, the album was @ #78 last week. The drop is really sad(after 110 weeks in top 100), but we can do nothing. Blame Irish people :lol:

Huge drop in Canada, but there are only new entries above Adele!

innocenteyes wrote:
I suppose there must have been some discounts / or a TV special shown in Canada last week that resulted into an increase in sales when it moved back to #1. Now it's fallen to #6 with weekly sales the album had two / three weeks ago going back its 'normal' sales and chart trajectory.
Yes, it was a TV special effect, just like in US :wink: 21 was just too strong to be beaten in US, so that's why she's still inside top 3 :P
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Postby phoenix83 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:53 pm

innocenteyes wrote:^ Oh yeah for sure, this is not good at all, FLOP ALERT, someone needs to call an ambulance please!

Seriously Timmy, you need to stop overexaggerating things to death about the album's current performance. You almost make it sound as if it was the biggest disappointment of the year.

I suppose there must have been some discounts / or a TV special shown in Canada last week that resulted into an increase in sales when it moved back to #1. Now it's fallen to #6 with weekly sales the album had two / three weeks ago going back its 'normal' sales and chart trajectory.

You have to know that the album will no longer sell like hotcakes every week. The promo is over / no new singles have been released for months now and it's already done entremely well. Its sales will fall slowly but it will turn out to be a very strong catalogue seller. I'm sure that 21 will move many units within the next few years.
I agree with all this. Some people here (not just Timmy94 to be fair) don't seem to understand that all albums - even the likes of 21 - have a saturation point. We can't expect indefinite top 10 runs, and when an album gets a one-off boost ie from a TV special, it's likely to drop hard the next week.

I also believe that 21 will be a strong catalogue seller and we will continue to see it on the charts (if not their upper reaches) for some while yet!
Counting down the days until 21 outsells Morning Glory in the UK.
Mission complete on 29.12.2012 :)
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Postby arab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:59 pm

Mediatraffic

'21' Sales History

359.000 - 252.000 - 224.000 - 259.000 - 635.000 - 452.000 - 378.000 - 345.000 - 342.000 - 447.000 - 296.000 - 295.000 - 354.000 - 303.000 - 343.000 - 339.000 - 296.000 - 278.000 - 282.000 - 274.000 - 276.000 - 242.000 - 222.000 - 221.000 - 217.000 - 222.000 - 224.000 - 212.000 - 218.000 - 224.000 - 234.000 - 314.000 - 285.000 - 276.000 - 262.000 - 261.000 - 261.000 - 255.000 - 243.000 - 245.000 - 250.000 - 245.000 - 260.000 - 327.000 - 395.000 - 499.000 – 706.000 - 957.000 – 394.000 – 309.000 - 260.000 - 244.000 - 254.000 - 247.000 - 369.000 - 979.000 - 520.000 – 429.000 – 348.000 – 303.000 – 247.000 – 228.000 - 271.000 - 201.000 – 188.000 – 177.000 – 161.000 – 187.000 – 141.000 – 127.000127.000 – 140.000 – 133.000

6.984.000 (2012 total)
22.290.000 TOTAL (#54 in All-Time Chart)

'19' Sales History (2011-2012)

24.000 - 27.000 - 41.000 - 43.000 - 41.000 - 63.000 - 72.000 - 72.000 - 65.000 - 61.000 - 67.000 - 93.000 - 58.000 - 60.000 - 59.000 - 54.000 - 58.000 - 59.000 - 55.000 - 52.000 - 57.000 - 55.000 - 60.000 - 66.000 - 49.000 - 45.000 - 49.000 - 51.000 - 50.000 - 47.000 - 46.000 - 46.000 - 53.000 - 59.000 - 57.000 - 49.000 - 44.000 - 42.000 - 45.000 - 50.000 - 49.000 - 45.000 - 45.000 - 40.000 - 44.000 - 52.000 - 56.000 - 70.000 – 92.000 – 137.000 – 71.000 – 52.000 - 44.000 - 40.000 - 42.000 - 42.000 - 60.000 - 131.000 - 84.000 – 71.000 – 54.000 – 52.000 – 42.000 – 39.000 – 48.000 – 38.000 – 33.000 – 31.000 – 31.000 – 34.000 – 25.000 - ~21.000(out of top 40) - ~21.000 – 25.000 – 24.000

~1.154.000 (2012 total)
~3.937.000 TOTAL

19 ~5.32mln (+ ~300k outside top 40)
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Postby Danzo » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:10 pm

^ 7 million (this year) next week. :)
TAPOUT or BLACKOUT...
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Postby joao » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:51 pm

phoenix83 wrote:
innocenteyes wrote:^ Oh yeah for sure, this is not good at all, FLOP ALERT, someone needs to call an ambulance please!

Seriously Timmy, you need to stop overexaggerating things to death about the album's current performance. You almost make it sound as if it was the biggest disappointment of the year.

I suppose there must have been some discounts / or a TV special shown in Canada last week that resulted into an increase in sales when it moved back to #1. Now it's fallen to #6 with weekly sales the album had two / three weeks ago going back its 'normal' sales and chart trajectory.

You have to know that the album will no longer sell like hotcakes every week. The promo is over / no new singles have been released for months now and it's already done entremely well. Its sales will fall slowly but it will turn out to be a very strong catalogue seller. I'm sure that 21 will move many units within the next few years.
I agree with all this. Some people here (not just Timmy94 to be fair) don't seem to understand that all albums - even the likes of 21 - have a saturation point. We can't expect indefinite top 10 runs, and when an album gets a one-off boost ie from a TV special, it's likely to drop hard the next week.

I also believe that 21 will be a strong catalogue seller and we will continue to see it on the charts (if not their upper reaches) for some while yet!
In 21´s case maybe it´s not even saturation... it´s just the fact that there is no promo since months, Adele is not touring or doing anything public at the moment, and the last single is naturally loosing steam (and there wasn´t even a video for the last single). It´s good that Adele is not being overexposed but she could give some goodies to her fans from time to time. Anyway, it´s about time 21 falls off the chart... We need to make room for album #3.
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Postby Masson » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:03 am

arab wrote:
Masson wrote:Late September 21 might reach diamond in the US.
Sounds reliable, but I'd say early-mid October. Anyway, I hope you're right :lol:

You could be right so lets go for October :wink:
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:55 am

Spoffle wrote:HDD predictions for the Top 10:

Adele (XL/Columbia) 50-55k
Just need to keep above 40K for about 4 or 5 weeks.
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:56 am

Itunes 21

#1 Estonia
#1 Lithuania
#1 Portugal
#1 Slovenia
#2 Bulgaria
#2 Chile
#2 Cyprus
#3 Honduras
#3 Latvia
#4 Brazil
#4 Colombia
#4 Czech Republic
#4 Dominican Republic
#4 El Salvador
#4 Panama
#4 Paraguay
#4 Spain
#5 Ecuador
#5 Peru
#5 Poland
#6 Argentina
#6 Greece
#6 Italy
#6 Romania
#7 Costa Rica
#7 Finland
#7 Luxembourg
#7 Malta
#8 Guatemala
#8 Norway
#9 United States
#9 Belgium
#9 France
#9 Hungary
#11 Netherlands
#11 New Zealand
#13 Canada
#13 Slovakia
#13 Switzerland
#15 Venezuela
#18 Australia
#18 Mexico
#21 Denmark
#22 Nicaragua
#23 United Kingdom
#26 Ireland
#30 Japan
#31 Austria
#31 Germany
#51 Bolivia
#55 Sweden
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:58 am

World Music Awards

http://www.worldmusicawards.com/2012/in ... a&Itemid=7

Phenomenal Year for Adele

Adele has had a phenomenal year and now her acclaimed second album '21' has been named the world's biggest-selling album of the past year.

In the 70 weeks since it was first released, 21 has sold more than 22 million copies around the globe, which is 1.6 per cent of all album sales.

This extends Adele‘s lead as the highest selling act of the 21st century, and means ’21‘ has kept a position in the US top ten, a place she has not left since the project dropped.

Here’s hoping Adele’s success will encourage labels to sign acts with a sincere passion for music, talented enough to front campaigns where the music and art takes centre stage.

Because, as we’re sure XL and Columbia will tell you, they’re reaping the rewards for pushing the album directly to the audience by touring before the album dropped, using the momentum garnered by ‘19? to shine a light on her new material.

Material, wide reaching enough to win spins on a number of radio formats, beneficial for obvious reasons. Material, despite popular belief, that shifts units not because ‘people are fed up with what’s on the charts’ but because much like Adele herself, seems sincere.

Amy Winehouse, Coldplay and Susan Boyle have all held the top spot. According to reports, the London singer's record company is planning to bring out a repackaged version of her smash-hit album 21 in time for Christmas! XL Recordings is hoping that a re-packaged version of '21' will help it become the biggest-selling album in UK chart history, which this year moved up to fifth place in the all-time sales chart after overtaking Michael Jackson's Thriller. A repackaged album is currently being discussed. It's not yet confirmed that it will feature new material or songs that didn't make the original album but it makes sense to bring it out."

The UK's highest selling albums of all time are currently Queen's 'Greatest Hits' at No 1, 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' by The Beatles at No 2, Abba's 'Gold' at No 3 and '(What's the Story) Morning Glory?' by Oasis at No 4.

21 is the second studio album by English recording artist Adele. Released on 24 January 2011 in most of Europe, and on 22 February 2011 in North America, it was named after the age of the singer during its production. The album shares the folk and Motown soul influences of her debut album 19, but was further inspired by the American country and Southern blues music to which she had been exposed during her 2008–2009 North American tour An Evening with Adele. Composed in the aftermath of the singer's separation from her partner, the album explores themes of anger, revenge, heartbreak, self-examination, and forgiveness.

Adele began writing 21 in April 2009, while still involved in the relationship that subsequently inspired the record. Dissatisfied with once again portraying herself as the musical tragedienne of her debut, she had intended to compose a more upbeat and contemporary follow-up. However, studio sessions ended prematurely due to a lack of inspiration. She resumed production immediately after the breakdown of her relationship, channeling her heartbreak and depression into her songs. Adele collaborated with various songwriters and producers, including Columbia Records co-president Rick Rubin, Paul Epworth, Ryan Tedder, Jim Abbiss, and Dan Wilson.

Critically praised for its understated production, vintage authenticity, and Adele's vocal performance, 21 defied the modest commercial expectations of her indie record label XL Recordings and became a sleeper hit in 2011. The album topped the charts in more than 30 countries and appeared in the 2012 edition of the Guinness World Records. The UK's best-selling album of the 21st century, its 23-week tenure atop the UK Albums Chart is the longest by a female solo artist. Singles "Rolling in the Deep", "Someone Like You", and "Set Fire to the Rain" became worldwide number-one hits, while "Rumour Has It" and "Turning Tables" charted in the top 20 across Europe and North America.

With sales of over 22 million copies as of June 9 2012, 21 was the best-selling musical release of 2011 and helped revitalise lagging sales of the United States and UK music industry. Critics speculated on the nature of the album's success with audiences across the world and viewed its reception in the U.S. as a shift from the overtly sexual and sonically bombastic status quo. In 2012, the album won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year and the BRIT Award for British Album of the Year.
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Postby arab » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:09 am

NorfolkScot wrote:
Spoffle wrote:HDD predictions for the Top 10:

Adele (XL/Columbia) 50-55k
Just need to keep above 40K for about 4 or 5 weeks.
Needs to keep above 40k till the end of the year :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Cless » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:49 am

What are 19's overall numbers?
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Postby NorfolkScot » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:14 am

arab wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:
Spoffle wrote:HDD predictions for the Top 10:

Adele (XL/Columbia) 50-55k
Just need to keep above 40K for about 4 or 5 weeks.
Needs to keep above 40k till the end of the year :lol: :lol: :lol:
That could be hard to do without any promo.

UK iTunes 21 #18
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Postby arab » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:23 am

BlackStar wrote:What are 19's overall numbers?
WW - 5.6mln+
USA - 2.2mln+
UK - 2.1mln+
France - 175k+
Australia - 160k+
Japan 60k+
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Postby Timmy94 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:28 am

arab wrote:
BlackStar wrote:What are 19's overall numbers?
WW - 5.6mln+
USA - 2.2mln+
UK - 2.1mln+
Australia - 160k+
Japan 60k+
Germany 200k+
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