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Postby starshine90 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:56 am

I can see Justin sell under 400K just around 350-380K
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Postby hugo » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:20 pm

CHART DATE: 06/25/2012
LAST UPDATE: 06/26/2012 13:10:27
NOW IN: FINAL


LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJ 373,456 --
BELIEVE
-- 2 KENNY CHESNEY BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASH 195,892 --
WELCOME TO THE FISHBOWL
-- 3 FIONA APPLE EPIC 67,122 --
IDLER WHEEL IS WISER THAN THE
8 4 ROCK OF AGES WATERTOWER MUSIC 49,587 +46%
SOUNDTRACK
1 5 USHER RCA 48,242 -61%
LOOKING 4 MYSELF
3 6 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 47,480 -21%
21
-- 7 SMASHING PUMPKINS MARTHA'S MUSIC/ELS 47,290 --
OCEANIA
7 8 ONE DIRECTION SYCO/COLUMBIA 42,161 +6%
UP ALL NIGHT
2 9 RUSH ROADRUNNER 28,753 -70%
CLOCKWORK ANGELS
11 10 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 25,793 -2%
TAILGATES & TANLINES
10 11 ALAN JACKSON CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 24,587 -25%
THIRTY MILES WEST
32 12 LET IT SHINE WALT DISNEY 19,719 +63%
SOUNDTRACK
-- 13 DIRTY HEADS FIVE SEVEN 19,688 --
CABIN BY THE SEA
5 14 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 19,351 -53%
PUNCHING BAG
18 15 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 42 CAPITOL/EMI 19,042 -4%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
14 16 NOW COUNTRY 5 UME 18,609 -24%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
22 17 FUN. FUELED BY RAMEN 18,166 +11%
SOME NIGHTS
15 18 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 18,104 -25%
BLOWN AWAY
12 19 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 17,654 -32%
BORN AND RAISED
19 20 ERIC CHURCH CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 17,120 -8%
CHIEF
31 21 NICKI MINAJ YM/CM/REPUBLIC 17,104 +41%
PINK FRIDAY... ROMAN RELOADED
13 22 LIONEL RICHIE MERCURY NASHVILLE 15,862 -36%
TUSKEGEE
23 23 GOTYE FAIRFAX/REPUBLIC 14,180 -10%
MAKING MIRRORS
17 24 BEACH BOYS CAPITOL/EMI 13,852 -40%
THAT'S WHY GOD MADE THE RADIO
6 25 NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE REPRISE 13,765 -67%
AMERICANA
26 26 OF MONSTERS & MEN REPUBLIC 13,530 -7%
MY HEAD IS AN ANIMAL
-- 27 GLEN HANSARD ANTI 13,455 --
RHYTHM & REPOSE
4 28 ED SHEERAN NEW ELEKTRA 13,442 -70%
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39 29 KATY PERRY CAPITOL/EMI 13,195 +30%
TEENAGE DREAM
25 30 METRIC MOM + POP 12,965 -16%
SYNTHETICA
35 31 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 12,725 +11%
LOVE IS A FOUR LETTER WORD
9 32 WAKA FLOCKA FLAME WARNER BROS. 12,662 -62%
TRIPLE F LIFE
-- 33 BRAVE WALT DISNEY 11,800 --
SOUNDTRACK
21 34 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE/EMI 11,767 -30%
LITTLE BROKEN HEARTS
-- 35 WALK THE MOON RCA 11,209 --
WALK THE MOON
46 36 ALABAMA SHAKES ATO 10,858 +19%
BOYS & GIRLS
28 37 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 10,289 -23%
MY KINDA PARTY
36 38 JACK WHITE THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA 10,167 -10%
BLUNDERBUSS
29 39 TRAIN COLUMBIA 10,022 -22%
CALIFORNIA 37
27 40 JOURNEY COLUMBIA 9,891 -26%
GREATEST HITS
49 41 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 9,427 +5%
TALK THAT TALK
33 42 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 9,262 -21%
19
-- 43 WHITECHAPEL METAL BLADE 9,170 --
WHITECHAPEL
47 44 KIP MOORE MCA NASHVILLE 9,099 0%
UP ALL NIGHT
-- 45 PAUL SIMON LEGACY 8,710 --
PAUL SIMON COLLECTION: ON MY WAY
16 46 GRACE POTTER & THE NOCTURNALS HOLLYWOOD 8,655 -64%
THE LION THE BEAST THE BEAT
50 47 REGINA SPEKTOR SIRE 8,442 -6%
WHAT WE SAW FROM THE CHEAP SEATS
45 48 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 8,406 -9%
EL CAMINO
-- 49 COLDPLAY CAPITOL/EMI 8,107 --
MYLO XYLOTO
41 50 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 8,103 -20%
SIGH NO MORE
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Postby Timmy94 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:32 pm

Not even 1k between No. 5 and 7... We'll see if Adele could stay in the top 5 :wink: .

Justin Bieber is debuting relatively modest considering his popularity, his successful lead single and it being the follow up to a 3x Platinum album... Not a secret that most of us expected more!

And :-? at Ed Sheeran: All those British newcomers debut very high at the moment and fall rapidely strangely... I wonder why they have so high declines, although this is limited to scene artists with a limited fanbase (Ed Sheeran, Rebecca Ferguson and the others don't have a fanbase yet) or highly expected follow-ups normally...
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Postby LonelyDreamer » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:34 pm

-- 3 FIONA APPLE EPIC 67,122 --
IDLER WHEEL IS WISER THAN THE...

This album deserved a #1. :(
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Postby Lemo » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:43 pm

KevinScream wrote:-- 3 FIONA APPLE EPIC 67,122 --
IDLER WHEEL IS WISER THAN THE...

This album deserved a #1. :(
Don't be too disheartened. It's her highest peaking album :D
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Postby Play » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:14 pm

Only 11 albums selling 20k and upwards :roll:

US sales are again going downhill
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Postby Nackar » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:16 pm

^ Again? I didn't know it ever stopped :lol:

But no, in all seriousness, it's very sad to us chart-buffs and likely those in the industry who actually NEED the money. I think Adele's slayage gave people a false sense of growth for the market.
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Postby Play » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:18 pm

Nackar wrote:^ Again? I didn't know it ever stopped :lol:

But no, in all seriousness, it's very sad to us chart-buffs and likely those in the industry who actually NEED the money. I think Adele's slayage gave people a false sense of growth for the market.
Yes I said again because last year total sales seemed to somewhat hold around and even increase a little bit but this year we're back to -%10 losses weekly
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Postby Timmy94 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:42 pm

The sad thing is that half the year is already gone and the biggest sales week for a 2012 release is a dire 370k...
Compared to this the highest sales for an album in the first half of the last 5 years respectively:
2007: 625k (Linkin Park - Minutes to Midnight)
2008: 1.005 mio. (Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III)
2009: 608k (Eminem - Relapse)
2010: 741k (Eminem - Recovery)
2011: 1.108 mio. (Lady Gaga - Born This Way)

And even if there are albums debuting with high numbers in Q3 or Q4, they propably post so hefty big declines in the upcoming weeks, that the high first week sales don't mean anything because the overall sales are just more frontloaded and not overall more.

Not to forget that since last year, we have so many flop albums as never before, even by artists who were never said to be ever affected!
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Postby Nackar » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:18 pm

One thing I know for sure: If Eminem is ALSO underperforming below all expectations on his next album I officially don't know what to believe anymore :lol:
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Postby tada » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:54 pm

not bad drop for Usher!
Justin's figures are not, however, impressive for me
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Postby stevyy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:20 am

Just to show the seriousness of music sales declines.

The US music market in 2012 will be as big as the Japanese music market from 2000/2001 (albums sales only). physical sales will hit an alltime low worldwide.

2012 could be another year that suffers a global sales decline of albums sales of 15% or more. How much more can the industry take?

It is no surprise that in Germany bars and dance-clubs have to face an increase of royalty fees of 1,400% (yes, one-thousand-four-hundred percent increase) by the GEMA. :o
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Postby cabanaboy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:16 am

:o This year has just been awful...
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Postby starshine90 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:23 am

I think chances are Believe isn't gonna sell over 1M in 2012.
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Postby cabanaboy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:40 am

starshine90 wrote:I think chances are Believe isn't gonna sell over 1M in 2012.
If that turns out to be true I would classify Believe as another MDNA :lol: only difference being I love MDNA
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Postby atbw13 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:44 am

stevyy wrote:It is no surprise that in Germany bars and dance-clubs have to face an increase of royalty fees of 1,400% (yes, one-thousand-four-hundred percent increase) by the GEMA. :o
:o :o :o
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Postby Lioha » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:01 am

Timmy94 wrote:And :-? at Ed Sheeran: All those British newcomers debut very high at the moment and fall rapidely strangely... I wonder why they have so high declines, although this is limited to scene artists with a limited fanbase (Ed Sheeran, Rebecca Ferguson and the others don't have a fanbase yet) or highly expected follow-ups normally...
Coz none of them have any hit singles in the US and no radio support. And the first week sales are based on the brief TV appearances, thus almost all the people who is interested in this new British boy/girl buy the album in the first week and then nobody cares.
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Postby Cactuar » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:12 am

KevinScream wrote:-- 3 FIONA APPLE EPIC 67,122 --
IDLER WHEEL IS WISER THAN THE...

This album deserved a #1. :(
That's pretty epic actually. :o I love the album to death too, but thought it won't go higher than #78 or something on the charts because of zero airplay and its unconventional sound. And to see it in the Top 3, simply wow. :o But it's worth bearing in mind that she was (and still is) a multiplatinum artist if you consider her record sales total.
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Postby arab » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:25 am

starshine90 wrote:I think chances are Believe isn't gonna sell over 1M in 2012.
Ohhh no. I wish it could be true, but he could even sell ~2mln copies by the end of he year. His albums have great longevity, so sadly, I expect quite stable sales.
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Postby tada » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:47 am

Cactuar wrote:
KevinScream wrote:-- 3 FIONA APPLE EPIC 67,122 --
IDLER WHEEL IS WISER THAN THE...

This album deserved a #1. :(
That's pretty epic actually. :o I love the album to death too, but thought it won't go higher than #78 or something on the charts because of zero airplay and its unconventional sound. And to see it in the Top 3, simply wow. :o But it's worth bearing in mind that she was (and still is) a multiplatinum artist if you consider her record sales total.
great debut defo! Here in LA there is are so many posters on buildings and WOM works well as well 8-)
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Postby floria » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:28 am

starshine90 wrote:I think chances are Believe isn't gonna sell over 1M in 2012.
I do not think it will happen.
He usually has longevity , if next week's drop below 50% I think it will be very good and it is even possible to sell around 2M by the end of the year go be in the top 3.
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Postby Timmy94 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:07 pm

Lioha wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:And :-? at Ed Sheeran: All those British newcomers debut very high at the moment and fall rapidely strangely... I wonder why they have so high declines, although this is limited to scene artists with a limited fanbase (Ed Sheeran, Rebecca Ferguson and the others don't have a fanbase yet) or highly expected follow-ups normally...
Coz none of them have any hit singles in the US and no radio support. And the first week sales are based on the brief TV appearances, thus almost all the people who is interested in this new British boy/girl buy the album in the first week and then nobody cares.
But why do they directly debut high and don't do it like "normal" newcomers with no exposure and debut low but spend ages there? That would look far better than albums that debut in the top 10-30 and drop out of the top 100 soon...
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Postby GetBack » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:31 pm

Justin will do well, he has so much promo for the coming award shows later this year, he has a tour coming soon, he'll be everywhere with the singles.
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Postby GUS » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:40 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
Lioha wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:And :-? at Ed Sheeran: All those British newcomers debut very high at the moment and fall rapidely strangely... I wonder why they have so high declines, although this is limited to scene artists with a limited fanbase (Ed Sheeran, Rebecca Ferguson and the others don't have a fanbase yet) or highly expected follow-ups normally...
Coz none of them have any hit singles in the US and no radio support. And the first week sales are based on the brief TV appearances, thus almost all the people who is interested in this new British boy/girl buy the album in the first week and then nobody cares.
But why do they directly debut high and don't do it like "normal" newcomers with no exposure and debut low but spend ages there? That would look far better than albums that debut in the top 10-30 and drop out of the top 100 soon...
>Timmy! The same question again and again! If an artist promotes an album on TV, then probably people will buy it that week. That's how media works...that's called promo...
Who cares if an album that debuts at #5 and free fall sells the same that an album that only peaks at # 55 and stay charting for months????
It doesn't look "better" or "worst". It's just the way it is. You are the one who likes long staying albums with low peaks but nobody cares about it (specially in music industry where everything seems to be frontloaded and to make $ as soon as possible)
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Postby thebigham » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:51 pm

^Just ignore Timmy!!! Don't even bother. If we stop responding to his endless posts, maybe he will stop?
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