Mariah Carey :: Charts & Sales History

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Postby MadgeAngel » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:14 pm

Hey you guys. New to this thread and I read the last few pages but couldn't find info on Essential Mariah Carey and its performance in the US. Anyone have data on it? I'm a Mariah and Madonna fan (I know, hard to find :lol: ) Thanks in advance!!
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Postby stevyy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:37 pm

MadgeAngel wrote:Hey you guys. New to this thread and I read the last few pages but couldn't find info on Essential Mariah Carey and its performance in the US. Anyone have data on it? I'm a Mariah and Madonna fan (I know, hard to find :lol: ) Thanks in advance!!
that release never made the BB200.. it probably sold 4,000/5k copies to date. :lol:

Mariah only had 2 major GH collections:

#1's: 5 million and
GH: 1,3 million (therefore eligible for 2x platinum)
Ballads: 150k
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Postby MadgeAngel » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:47 pm

^Thank you! I thought it would do much better considering it brings 28 songs and I got my copy for only $11.99 at FYE :o
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Postby Luminator » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:54 pm

#1s will have shipped considerably more than 5 million flat. It sold a staggering 1 million via BMG music club and Mariah wasn't even a house artist there. Columbia house sales will be no less than that.
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Postby stevyy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:30 pm

Luminator wrote:#1s will have shipped considerably more than 5 million flat. It sold a staggering 1 million via BMG music club and Mariah wasn't even a house artist there. Columbia house sales will be no less than that.
assumptions.
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Postby Cless » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:38 am

I just found out that Apple finally opened its iTunes store in the Philippines and in 11 other Asian countries too. This could be good for Mimi as she's pretty known in Asia. 8-)

iTunes

Philippines (21)

Songs:

264. Just Stand Up
295. Obsessed
396. We Belong Together

Albums:

70. The Ballads
77. Daydream
135. Butterfly
137. Mariah Carey: Greatest Hits

Malaysia (15)

Songs:

178. Always Be My Baby
379. When You Believe

Albums:

44. #1's
163. Mariah Carey: Greatest Hits
300. I Want to Know What Love Is
373. When You Believe

Thailand (15)

Songs:

68. When You Believe
90. Hero

Albums:

212. Mariah Carey: Greatest Hits
341. Daydream
397. Mariah Carey: Greatest Hits

Hong Kong (4)

Songs:

127. Hero
282. Endless Love

Taiwan (1)

Songs:

201. When You Believe


Can't wait when the new era begins!
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Postby PoderosaCarey » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:59 am

Mariah is really the artist that more earn money per album sold? I found some sources that says :

Mariah - $2.50 per album sold

Celine/Madonna - 2.30

Whitney- 2.00

Britney Spears - 0.90



How about Shania, Gaga, or janet, Alanis etc?
is Mariah really the number #1?
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Postby Wayne » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:13 am

Celine takes home between 19-30% of the dealer price of every album sold.

Madonna takes roughly the same.

And both do so without even having to lift a pen.
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Postby ferrero » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:21 am

well because both of them (used to) sold loads of albums and has good numbers in their tours, songwriters are willing to take a cut in their royalties to be featured on their albums :lol:
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Postby Luminator » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:27 am

Of course Mariah will take a huge percentage. She's the singer, co-writer and co-producer of nearly every song.
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Postby PoderosaCarey » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:35 am

04wayne wrote:Celine takes home between 19-30% of the dealer price of every album sold.

Madonna takes roughly the same.

And both do so without even having to lift a pen.
It´s really special for Celine to get the same as Madonna get, cause she did not write. She has a good contract :D
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Postby Luminator » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:36 am

PoderosaCarey wrote:
04wayne wrote:Celine takes home between 19-30% of the dealer price of every album sold.

Madonna takes roughly the same.

And both do so without even having to lift a pen.
It´s really special for Celine to get the same as Madonna get, cause she did not write. She has a good contract :D
She has Rene.
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Postby PoderosaCarey » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:36 am

I think Shania earns a lot of money too, but i can´t find any other numbers.
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Postby Wayne » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:38 am

ferrero wrote:well because both of them (used to) sold loads of albums and has good numbers in their tours, songwriters are willing to take a cut in their royalties to be featured on their albums :lol:
The percentage that Celine takes now, is bigger than it was during the 90's.

Its the prestige that increases the royalty - its a big deal for a songwriter to be able to write for a legend such as Madonna or Celine. And that's why they're willing to take such a cut.

Nowadays, there really is a limit in terms of royalty though - I'd be interested in knowing how much Adele took home prior to 21's release per album, and how much she takes home after. Obviously, the sales will have significantly increased her stock, and coupled with her being the chief songwriter - it wouldn't surprise me if come her next release, she's commanding the highest royalty rate in the business.
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Postby PoderosaCarey » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:40 am

04wayne wrote:
ferrero wrote:well because both of them (used to) sold loads of albums and has good numbers in their tours, songwriters are willing to take a cut in their royalties to be featured on their albums :lol:
The percentage that Celine takes now, is bigger than it was during the 90's.

Its the prestige that increases the royalty - its a big deal for a songwriter to be able to write for a legend such as Madonna or Celine. And that's why they're willing to take such a cut.

Nowadays, there really is a limit in terms of royalty though - I'd be interested in knowing how much Adele took home prior to 21's release per album, and how much she takes home after. Obviously, the sales will have significantly increased her stock, and coupled with her being the chief songwriter - it wouldn't surprise me if come her next release, she's commanding the highest royalty rate in the business.
shows a bit,, but doesn´t answer exactly the question

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictu ... ou-0071546
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:29 pm

04wayne wrote:Celine takes home between 19-30% of the dealer price of every album sold.

Madonna takes roughly the same.

And both do so without even having to lift a pen.
maybe Madonna before Maverick she earned like $2.30 per album or maybe less, but since Maverick 4 sure she improved , and 4 sure since 2007, she earn nearly $3 per album sold or maybe more ,remember she has the biggest female deal in music history-Live nation , also she is the Forbes Queen...

and its not fair that say that celine has Rene , Mariah had Mottola in her gold era ..
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Postby Luminator » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:39 pm

Due to his job, Mottola was mostly interested in making money for Columbia whereas Rene is still interested in making money for Celine and himself.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:47 pm

Luminator wrote:Due to his job, Mottola was mostly interested in making money for Columbia whereas Rene is still interested in making money for Celine and himself.
making money to Sony -making money to Mariah and himself too.. as well Rene
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Postby Wayne » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:56 pm

alek wrote:maybe Madonna before Maverick she earned like $2.30 per album or maybe less, but since Maverick 4 sure she improved , and 4 sure since 2007, she earn nearly $3 per album sold or maybe more ,remember she has the biggest female deal in music history-Live nation , also she is the Forbes Queen...
I highly doubt Madonna is making $3 per album - that would mean that she's taking home roughly 40% of every single album [since we're speaking of the dealer price here, and most labels will sell an album for at least $6 for chart qualification purposes, but probably not more than $8-8.50 - please do correct me if I'm wrong]; Michael Jackson in his prime probably wasn't bringing that much home.

Madonna is probably still taking home between $2-$2.50 per album; her Live Nation deal is 99% about the touring gross.
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Postby Juancito75 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:04 pm

Luminator wrote:Due to his job, Mottola was mostly interested in making money for Columbia whereas Rene is still interested in making money for Celine and himself.
+1. Obviously, as Sony CEO, Mottola has obligations to fullfill. No question discovering and developing the career of Mariah Carey is the biggest achievement in his career. That´s why Sony dumped him right after Mariah left the company.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:11 pm

04wayne wrote:
alek wrote:maybe Madonna before Maverick she earned like $2.30 per album or maybe less, but since Maverick 4 sure she improved , and 4 sure since 2007, she earn nearly $3 per album sold or maybe more ,remember she has the biggest female deal in music history-Live nation , also she is the Forbes Queen...
I highly doubt Madonna is making $3 per album - that would mean that she's taking home roughly 40% of every single album [since we're speaking of the dealer price here, and most labels will sell an album for at least $6 for chart qualification purposes, but probably not more than $8-8.50 - please do correct me if I'm wrong]; Michael Jackson in his prime probably wasn't bringing that much home.

Madonna is probably still taking home between $2-$2.50 per album; her Live Nation deal is 99% about the touring gross.
live nation deal with Magde is about tours -albums , for sure she improved since 2007 , and i say almost $3 o maybe more , but 4 sure she is above Mariah and Celine , its all about a music deal , Sheryl crow write , sing , produce almost the 100% of her material , and i guess she make food for her team , and she neverrrrrr earn $2.50 per album

Madonna signed with Live nation after left Warner , as a champion after Confessions on a dancefloor

Mariah signed with Universal after she was fired , after Glitter

so its impossible than mariah earn more money than Madge per albums sold now..
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Postby Wayne » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:14 pm

Alek, it isn't impossible - as I've already said, these deals are not negotiated based primarily on sales or what your next tour will gross [that is a separate issue entirely].

Prestige is a big factor also. I HIGHLY doubt that Madonna - or Celine - are pocketing more than Mariah, per album.

For non-songwriters, Mariah and Celine do as well as anybody else, but that's probably it ends.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:46 pm

you are wrong , you can t explain it , its all about a music deal , for sure music deals is about how profitable is the artist , for that mariah got her music deal with Virgin, because she did so well before 2001 , as well Magde was a champion to Warner...IF Madonna has the biggest Female music deal , 4 sure she earn more money per album sold ..

the diference between madonna s deal with live nation and mariahs with Universal is huge, for that , its impossible that mariah earn more money than Madonna per album..Madonna is a songwriter and Producer too

i wonder how will be the next Mariah s music deal with Sony..

Owayne you always want to beat Madonna with her divas , always
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Postby Wayne » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:50 pm

Oh Alex, you really should've been banned by now.

I'm not arguing with you further.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:56 pm

04wayne wrote:Oh Alex, you really should've been banned by now.

I'm not arguing with you further.
you should been banned , you are obssesed to beat Magde with your divas, always, i bring facts ,if you want to believe in your facts , go ahead , but as i said you , always other fans will have something to say , facts too

and if i write here about Madonna,is because some Mariah fans write about Madonna sometimes, i or others Madonna s fans never write about Mariah or Celine in Madonna s topics...
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