Official Sales Database :: Brasil [UPDATED ON 03.02.2011]

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Postby AnthonyKerty » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:17 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
mIGU wrote:Christina Aguilera :: Stripped Live in the UK DVD
AA100000
I want a scan of this one :roll:
He typed wrong. I have the DVD, it's AA10000, not 100000.
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Postby mIGU » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:59 pm

LOOOOOOOL

So true! I typed it wrong :oops:

Its 10.000
sorry =P
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Postby brunocorr » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:21 am

here are some of mine. I hope I can help

Ana Carolina
Estampado - AN7000
Perfil - AA50000

Anastacia
Pieces Of A Dream - AA6000

Dido
No Angel - AH1000
Life For Rent - AA35000
Dido Live DVD - AA5000

Emma
Free Me - AA3000

The Only Madonna Album I have with such information is in my car right now, but I recall it being AA40000.
Drowned World Tour 2001 (DVD) - AH3000

Norah Jones
Come Away With Me - AG4000
Feels Like Home - AA45000

Robbie Williams
I've Been Expecting You - AA2000
Greatest Hits - AE10000
Live At The Albert (DVD) - AA500

The Corrs
The Best Of The Corrs - AG1000
Borrowed Heaven - AA12000
Home - AA11000
All The Way Home + Live In Geneva (DVD) - AA4000

Kylie Minogue
Body Language Live. Album Launch at the Apollo (DVD)- AB1000

Babado Novo
Uau! Ao vivo em Salvador (DVD) - AB15000
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Postby AutomaticBR » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:30 am

great to see that people like this thread! and it's growing really fast I guess

I would like to as people to be really careful when posting the codes... only 1 "zero" and u get a completely different number lol

Today I went to one store and spend some time there taking note of some codes in my cellphone, it was kinda funny cuz the people at the stores were looking at me all the time lol I'll do that more =P so bad that my town is not very big (only 100,000 people) so we don't have many cd-stores/cd's in the stores lol but, like I said, I'm counting with the help of everyone in here :D

btw, thanks to everyone who posted stats ;) I updated with the stats I got now, i'll update the rest later!


mIGU wrote:t.A.T.u :: Dangerous and Moving
AA2000

Jennifer Lopez :: Rebirth
AA18800
AB12000

Geri Halliwell :: Passion
AA3000

On Friday I'll have information from many many many others as me and my boy will go to FNAC explore this info =P
I guess t.A.T.u. shipped many more after AA cuz the album stood high on the São Paulo charts and they promoted here. Also, I never heard of J.Lo's AB12! 30k is a lot for this album, great! r u sure it wasn't AB1200? lol

and every Spice Girl releases AA3000 now I think, Emma, Geri... lol

btw, do u have MSN Messenger? it's been a longtime I wanted to talk with u!

maroon wrote:very interesting topic! :) and it's a great idea to give that kind of codes on records, I wish all the countries were doing that :D
AutomaticBR, do any other Madonna's albums have codes?
Everything would be easier if all countries have done this, specially the ones without much info like Brasil =/

about Madonna, the only thing I know besides what was already posted is that "American life" has an AB10000 version, the first one didn't had the "AA" code but Warner said it was 50k.

joao wrote:I have Dido´s AA10000, so this means there are at last 60k shipped of Life For Rent. I recently saw in the shops a version which was 2k, but I don´t remember which letter. It´s higher then I expected.
For Dido's "Life for rent" I only got AA35 and AB5 'til now, wich means 40,000

MJDangerous wrote:How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb is a HUGE success in Brazil, 25k in initial shipment seem VERY low. Are you sure about the numbers of this album ?!
I already edited a lil' the sales for this album. As u can see now, the 2nd shipment was of 100k :o no surprise that the album was in ABPD's Top 10 albums of 2004 wich around 170k. In this case is interesting cuz the edition with DVD also sold a lot, and those diferent versions of an album have different codes

brunocorr wrote:
The Only Madonna Album I have with such information is in my car right now, but I recall it being AA40000.
Drowned World Tour 2001 (DVD) - AH3000

The Corrs
Borrowed Heaven - AA12000
All The Way Home + Live In Geneva (DVD) - AA4000
The Madonna album u said is "Confessions on a dancefloor", her latest one ;)

And thank u much for the info on The Corrs, I was really looking for "Borrowed heaven"'s AA code =P also, I didn't even know that the "All the way home" DVD was released! great!



and to end all this... impressive how Robbie Williams is much more popular here than I tought. His GH album sold 35,000 at least (this was published in a very big newspaper of Brasil wich unfortunatelly I don't recall now lol). Hiw new one is already going over 30k and I never heard "Tripping" on the radio! It's crazy the difference between musical tastes in different regions of Brasil. Robbie seems to be big in São Paulo/Rio de Janeiro but not that much where I live (Rio Grande do Sul)
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Postby askew » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:27 am

This is very interesting. It's nice to finally have some information on Brazil's sales.

I know Shakira doesn't sell very well in Brazil any longer, but it is possible to get this information for Fijacion Oral Vol. 1 and Oral Fixation Vol. 2? :lol:
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Postby mIGU » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:43 pm

Another one

Amerie :: Touch
AA2000

Beyonce :: Dangerously In Love
AA15510
AB10000

S Club 7 :: BEST
AB600

^^ credit to my boyf, he helped me with his own cds on thsi research

BTW, I'm sure Beyonce had a at least another set of copies made, I'm sure it went till AC
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Postby AutomaticBR » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:13 pm

askew wrote:This is very interesting. It's nice to finally have some information on Brazil's sales.

I know Shakira doesn't sell very well in Brazil any longer, but it is possible to get this information for Fijacion Oral Vol. 1 and Oral Fixation Vol. 2? :lol:
Actually, Shakira still sells quite decently here... not GOLD level, but not a huge flop lol I only got "Fijacion Oral vol.1" code wich is AA25600. I already saw the code for OF2 but I'm not sure now, I just remember it wasn't too diferent from FO1!

I edited once more the thread with many many more codes :D

VERY IMPRESSIVE initial shipments for Marisa Monte - for those who doesn't know, she's one of the best (if not THE best) selling female artist in Brasil. The critics love her always, and so the public too. After 6 years without releasing a solo album (her last one achieved sales of more than 1M copies), she released 2 albums - "Infinito particular" and "Universo ao meu redor" - both album have shipped 300,000 copies EACH (already 2x Platinum)! and they where just released on last March 10th! :o

also, to Edimes... I found just 2 albums of Kraftwerk here - "Minimum maximum" and "Trans Euro Express", both AA1500
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Postby brunocorr » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:42 pm

Automatic, I went to a cd store today and took some time to check these things out.
Ana Carolina - Perfil (I saw 2 different ones: AZ15000 and BA8000)
Madonna - COAF (AD20000)

Those are the only ones I can remember for now.
Damn, I should've taken pics with my cellphone. silly me.

anyway, I bought 2 new ones:
Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten (AA2000)
Gwen Stefani - Love.Angel.Music.Baby (AB8000)
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Postby Edimes » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:53 pm

AutomaticBR wrote:...
also, to Edimes... I found just 2 albums of Kraftwerk here - "Minimum maximum" and "Trans Euro Express", both AA1500
Thanx for the Info :-)
"Trans Europe Express" AA1500 seems to be a reissue, because it was originally released 1977 as LP and 1998 first time on CD in Brazil.

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Postby joao » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:58 pm

I checked my version of Life For rent and it is AAD10000, and not AAA10000 like I said. There is another edition which is 2k but I don´t remember the letters, so the total so far is 52k. Here are some others:

Dido - Life for rent AAD10000
Anastacia - Not That Kind AAF1500 (released in 2000, if I´m not mistaken, so not all sales counted).
Faithless - Forever faithless (GH) AAA2000
Sixpence None The Richer - Divine Discontented AAA1000(released in 2002, this album was released simultaneously by 2 labels, Sony and Bom Pastor, if I´m not mistaken, the version I have is from Bom Pastor, and probably counts separetely).
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Postby AutomaticBR » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:30 pm

brunocorr wrote:Automatic, I went to a cd store today and took some time to check these things out.
Ana Carolina - Perfil (I saw 2 different ones: AZ15000 and BA8000)
Madonna - COAF (AD20000)

Those are the only ones I can remember for now.
Damn, I should've taken pics with my cellphone. silly me.

anyway, I bought 2 new ones:
Natasha Bedingfield - Unwritten (AA2000)
Gwen Stefani - Love.Angel.Music.Baby (AB8000)
WOW! This is the first time I read about an AZ or BA album :o but it's no surprise... Ana Carolina's "Perfil" is her best-selling album, already certified DIAMOND by ABPD for 500,000 copies shipped and as we can see, the codes are small wich means they shipped many many times to get to this great 500k total!

Also very nice to see Madonna's COAD already at AD20, I think this album will eventually go Platinum (125k).

AND, last but not least, thanks a lot for the Gwen Stefani figure specially cuz I was looking for that one for a long time!

Edimes wrote:
AutomaticBR wrote:...
also, to Edimes... I found just 2 albums of Kraftwerk here - "Minimum maximum" and "Trans Euro Express", both AA1500
Thanx for the Info :-)
"Trans Europe Express" AA1500 seems to be a reissue, because it was originally released 1977 as LP and 1998 first time on CD in Brazil.

Greetz :-)
Eddy
As those codes are only for CD's made since mid-2003, it doesn't take into account the sales before that. It's not like a reissue (wich would be a new version of the album), but yes a new shipment, maybe cuz they released a new album not that long ago, right? the same happened with Massive Attack's "Mezzanine" - the album has an AA1000 version, even tough it was first released in 1998. That certainly happened bcuz they released a new album in 2003 and then a soundtrack 2005. The new releases always make some people look to the artist's old releases

joao wrote:I checked my version of Life For rent and it is AAD10000, and not AAA10000 like I said. There is another edition which is 2k but I don´t remember the letters, so the total so far is 52k. Here are some others:

Dido - Life for rent AAD10000
Anastacia - Not That Kind AAF1500 (released in 2000, if I´m not mistaken, so not all sales counted).
Faithless - Forever faithless (GH) AAA2000
Sixpence None The Richer - Divine Discontented AAA1000(released in 2002, this album was released simultaneously by 2 labels, Sony and Bom Pastor, if I´m not mistaken, the version I have is from Bom Pastor, and probably counts separetely).
weird to have an album released simultaneously by 2 labels :-? maybe the album was released in 2002 by Sony and then, after 2003, when the codes started, by Bom Pastor?
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Postby mIGU » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:47 pm

Been today at FNAC and saw a lot of codes aswell, but I didnt really got all in my head now :oops: sorry

As u said AutomaticBR, t.A.T.u got another shipment, I saw it today, still much lower than I could ever think of as they came by to promote and the album was on the Folha de SP best selling list for a while. I saw today AB3000 =S so all together they have just 5.000 copies shipped, I expected more

I also saw Ana Carolina's BA8000 and I was :o but she is HUGE here so its ok. I also so Madonna's AD one today, also saw Hillary Duff which is AA5000 and Jesse Mcartney (dont know his name properly) and he is AA2500
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Postby joao » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:10 pm

TATU´s album is a miserable seller in Brazil, considering the video for All About Us was on heavy rotation a few months ago on MTV and Multishow and the song itself got decent airplay, it´s a total disaster. The Folha de São Paulo chart probably should be fake or it took in acount only a few stores, I remember when it was posted here it featured Bjork´s Selma Songs in the Top 10, which is a definitive proof that it´s completely out of reality.

Here are a few more I found in my house:
The Darkness - Permission To Land AB3.000
Iron Maiden - Dance Of Death AC8.000
Evanescence - Fallen AI20.000 (this must have been a monster seller...)
Ian Van Dahl - ACE AA4.000
Faithless - No Roots AA2.000
Kosheen - Kokopelli AA2.000
Moby - Play AC2.000
(I put points to avoid mistakes).
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Postby joao » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:29 pm

Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right... People were complaining that certifications for their favourite artists were much lower then their supost sales, but looking at the shipment numbers on Beyonce, J-Lo and Desitny´s Child CD´s, it´s pretty clear that pure pop artists can hardly sell 50,000 copies of their albums in Brazil, and those certifications on the Hot 100 Brasil site (just like the chart itself) were completely fake... People were also complaining that Mariah Carey´s TEOM was undercertified but looking at her shipment numbers, it´s really not so exciting to believe it is 3xplatinum like the Hot 100 Brasil displayed, and all those solo spice girls and tatu really have small shipments, unlike her fans wanted to convince everybody that they were massive sellers. TATU really visited Brazil, but their visit was almost unnoticed, so it didn´t help their sales.
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Postby MJDangerous » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:04 pm

joao wrote:Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right...
You are wrong, this database is BS, the major part of certifications are missing.
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Postby joao » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:25 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right...
You are wrong, this database is BS, the major part of certifications are missing.
BS=?
can you give us examples, not talking about 80´s and 90´s releases of course?
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Postby strongersp » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:25 pm

GREAT idea! :D 8-)

The Beatles, 1 AU1000
Coldplay, A Rush Of Blood To The Head AR7000
Coldplay, Live 2003 (CD/DVD) AF3000
Gorillaz, Demon Days AF5000
Green Day, American Idiot AF20000
Green Day, Bullet In A Bible (CD/DVD) AA25000
Los Hermanos, Los Hermanos AF1000
Los Hermanos, Bloco Do Eu Sozinho AN1000
Los Hermanos, Ventura AJ4000
Los Hermanos, 4 AA40000
Los Hermanos Ao Vivo no Cine Íris (DVD) AA10000
Maroon5, Songs About Jane AA3000
The Killers, Hot Fuss AB8000
System Of A Down, Toxicity AJ2000

I don't have scans of them...
but you can trust me :)
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Postby MJDangerous » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:34 pm

joao wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right...
You are wrong, this database is BS, the major part of certifications are missing.
BS=?
can you give us examples, not talking about 80´s and 90´s releases of course?
Bullshit...

Here a few Brazilian certifications :

Andrea Bocelli - Sogno : 2xPlatinum
Enya - A Day Without Rain : Gold
Eros Ramazzotti - Stile Libero : Gold
U2 - ATYCLB : 3xPlatinum
Laura Pausini - Tra Te E Il Mare : Gold

Check the ABPD site to see how many of them are in it... 1 (Enya) in 5...

I know also for sure that "Invincible" by MJ is Gold, in 6 "sure" certifications only 1 is in the ABPD database, this can give you an idea about how comprehensive this database is.
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Postby joao » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:48 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right...
You are wrong, this database is BS, the major part of certifications are missing.
BS=?
can you give us examples, not talking about 80´s and 90´s releases of course?
Bullshit...

Here a few Brazilian certifications :

Andrea Bocelli - Sogno : 2xPlatinum
Enya - A Day Without Rain : Gold
Eros Ramazzotti - ? : Gold
U2 - ATYCLB : 3xPlatinum
Laura Pausini - Tra Te E Il Mare : Gold

Check the ABPD site to see how many of them are in it...
These are all old items, the ABPD site didn´t even exist when they were released. Talk about current albums, their certifications seems to fit perfectly with the estimations we make from shipments, even Enya´s new album is already gold (promotion = zero), so I supposed A Day Without Rain must have sold thrillions... A lot of people are disapointed because Jennifer Lopez and Destiny´s Child last albums were not certified, because their singles were played to death on MTV and pop radios, but their certifications are not missing on ABPD, they simply don´t exist, as their poor shipments prove, not all the promotion in the world would make these "artists" get a certification in Brazil, while other artists that are mostly unpromoted (talk about Enya again) have shipped gold right from the start.
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Postby MJDangerous » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:02 pm

joao wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right...
You are wrong, this database is BS, the major part of certifications are missing.
BS=?
can you give us examples, not talking about 80´s and 90´s releases of course?
Bullshit...

Here a few Brazilian certifications :

Andrea Bocelli - Sogno : 2xPlatinum
Enya - A Day Without Rain : Gold
Eros Ramazzotti - ? : Gold
U2 - ATYCLB : 3xPlatinum
Laura Pausini - Tra Te E Il Mare : Gold

Check the ABPD site to see how many of them are in it...
These are all old items, the ABPD site didn´t even exist when they were released. Talk about current albums, their certifications seems to fit perfectly with the estimations we make from shipments, even Enya´s new album is already gold (promotion = zero), so I supposed A Day Without Rain must have sold thrillions... A lot of people are disapointed because Jennifer Lopez and Destiny´s Child last albums were not certified, because their singles were played to death on MTV and pop radios, but their certifications are not missing on ABPD, they simply don´t exist, as their poor shipments prove, not all the promotion in the world would make these "artists" get a certification in Brazil, while other artists that are mostly unpromoted (talk about Enya again) have shipped gold right from the start.
Old items, are you kidding ?!? They are barely 5 years old ! If this database is crap already for 5 years old albums, so it is USELESS and in fact MANY albums are missing.
I read nowhere in their site that the database is supposed to be correct only for 6 months old albums :roll:
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Postby joao » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:43 pm

MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:
MJDangerous wrote:
joao wrote:Just on comment, I guess this thread confirms that the ABPD certifications on their website are mostly right...
You are wrong, this database is BS, the major part of certifications are missing.
BS=?
can you give us examples, not talking about 80´s and 90´s releases of course?
Bullshit...

Here a few Brazilian certifications :

Andrea Bocelli - Sogno : 2xPlatinum
Enya - A Day Without Rain : Gold
Eros Ramazzotti - ? : Gold
U2 - ATYCLB : 3xPlatinum
Laura Pausini - Tra Te E Il Mare : Gold

Check the ABPD site to see how many of them are in it...
These are all old items, the ABPD site didn´t even exist when they were released. Talk about current albums, their certifications seems to fit perfectly with the estimations we make from shipments, even Enya´s new album is already gold (promotion = zero), so I supposed A Day Without Rain must have sold thrillions... A lot of people are disapointed because Jennifer Lopez and Destiny´s Child last albums were not certified, because their singles were played to death on MTV and pop radios, but their certifications are not missing on ABPD, they simply don´t exist, as their poor shipments prove, not all the promotion in the world would make these "artists" get a certification in Brazil, while other artists that are mostly unpromoted (talk about Enya again) have shipped gold right from the start.
Old items, are you kidding ?!? They are barely 5 years old ! If this database is crap already for 5 years old albums, so it is USELESS and in fact MANY albums are missing.
I read nowhere in their site that the database is supposed to be correct only for 6 months old albums :roll:
Shipments have started to be tracked seriously in Brazil after 2003... Before that, there were no codes in the records, and the main source of piracy was labels themselves. The number of records they declared to be sold was usually less then the actual amount, because they wanted to pay less tributes. You don´t have an idea why the major labels got furious when the CD numeration started in Brazil? Same situation for DVDs and books. In resume, before 2003 everything was messed. And talk seriously, 1999 and 2000 for Brazil are equivalent to 1945 to USA, which means, no chance to get trustable data. The ABPD website was made mainly to show the new certifications every month, the database for old certifications is just a complement.
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Postby AutomaticBR » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:48 am

Also, we can easily see that many records are undercertified in Brasil lol but like Joao said, things are only getting "serious" since 2003!

btw, thanks for all the new codes posted guys, I'll update the thread soon ;)
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Postby panasonic » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:57 am

Shakira - Oral Fixation Vol. 2 - AA 15.000
Shania Twain - Greatest Hits - AA 25.000
The Offspring - Greatest Hits - AA 11.300
Santana - All That I Am - AA 30.000
Silverchair - Neon Ballroon - AF 4.000
Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk - AC 5.000
Malhação Internacional (2003) - AA 120.000
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Postby AutomaticBR » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:53 pm

panasonic wrote:Shakira - Oral Fixation Vol. 2 - AA 15.000
Shania Twain - Greatest Hits - AA 25.000
The Offspring - Greatest Hits - AA 11.300
Santana - All That I Am - AA 30.000
Silverchair - Neon Ballroon - AF 4.000
Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk - AC 5.000
Malhação Internacional (2003) - AA 120.000
I was really looking for Shakira's number! Thanks buddy ;)
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Postby john2000 » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:55 am

some more for Iron Maiden :

Somewhere In Time: AI002000
Piece Of Mind: AE001000
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son: AE001000
Dance on the road AA0010000

And also

Quensryche - Operation Midcrime I : AA001000
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