Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:30 am

tada wrote:wow! 3M finally :D :D
i guess she's the only from "old 80/90s female league" who sold 3M units of a given song...i mean Mariah, Whitney, Celiné, Janet
Whitney did about 5m units of I Will Always Love You.
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Postby Nackar » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:57 am

To be honest, if My Heart Will Go On had not had just a limited pressing of the CD single, I think its overall sales might also have been lifted up to and past 3 million.

Anyway, it's still impressive for Madonna, as it is for Whitney!
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:03 am

Nackar wrote:To be honest, if My Heart Will Go On had not had just a limited pressing of the CD single, I think its overall sales might also have been lifted up to and past 3 million.

Anyway, it's still impressive for Madonna, as it is for Whitney!
What is impressive is that Madge did it at her 3th decades of career....that being said the digital era helped a lot to pump the figure: I still find hard to consider 4m more succesfull than Like A Virgin or Like A Prayer :roll:
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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:04 am

The star collaboration is what drove that sale; had Justin not featured, I highly doubt she'd have sold one half of what it did.
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:08 am

04wayne wrote:The star collaboration is what drove that sale; had Justin not featured, I highly doubt she'd have sold one half of what it did.
That's remain in the "IF" department and cannot be proven.....so NEXT.

Other big star however had their collaboration so the same may apply to many names.....but we couldn't care less of that in the MADONNA thread,LOL.
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Postby jio » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:12 am

denise wrote:
Nackar wrote:To be honest, if My Heart Will Go On had not had just a limited pressing of the CD single, I think its overall sales might also have been lifted up to and past 3 million.

Anyway, it's still impressive for Madonna, as it is for Whitney!
What is impressive is that Madge did it at her 3th decades of career....that being said the digital era helped a lot to pump the figure: I still find hard to consider 4m more succesfull than Like A Virgin or Like A Prayer :roll:
Well, in all honesty it is not considering how much money 4m brought in and how much money LAV and LAP brought in and adjusted for inflation
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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:17 am

denise wrote:
04wayne wrote:The star collaboration is what drove that sale; had Justin not featured, I highly doubt she'd have sold one half of what it did.
That's remain in the "IF" department and cannot be proven.....so NEXT.
Well maybe its an "IF" to you.

But most will recognise that 4 Minutes sold primarily because of the Justin collaboration.
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:17 am

jio wrote:
denise wrote:
Nackar wrote:To be honest, if My Heart Will Go On had not had just a limited pressing of the CD single, I think its overall sales might also have been lifted up to and past 3 million.

Anyway, it's still impressive for Madonna, as it is for Whitney!
What is impressive is that Madge did it at her 3th decades of career....that being said the digital era helped a lot to pump the figure: I still find hard to consider 4m more succesfull than Like A Virgin or Like A Prayer :roll:
Well, in all honesty it is not considering how much money 4m brought in and how much money LAV and LAP brought in and adjusted for inflation
Exactly what I tried to say......there is no way 4M may be considered her most succesfull single on the base alone of that 3mil figure.
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:21 am

04wayne wrote:
denise wrote:
04wayne wrote:The star collaboration is what drove that sale; had Justin not featured, I highly doubt she'd have sold one half of what it did.
That's remain in the "IF" department and cannot be proven.....so NEXT.
Well maybe its an "IF" to you.

But most will recognise that 4 Minutes sold primarily because of the Justin collaboration.
Again that remain an "IF" because there is no a "FACT" that proves the contrary...ok....bye
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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:42 am

denise wrote:Again that remain an "IF" because there is no a "FACT" that proves the contrary...ok....bye
Except the fact that Hard Candy was her lowest-selling studio album to date, and couldn't even manage platinum.

If her selling power was all that strong, her fan base would've shelled out for Hard Candy; fact is, they didn't.

4 Minutes sold because of the collaboration.
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Postby NoAngel » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:48 am

Someone really can't hide jealousy :roll:
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Postby DaBoi » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:51 am

Talking about Hard Candy, we can still see the album charting on itunes in some countries 8-)

Hard Candy
#69 Greece
#71 Finland
#94 Portugal
#134 Sweden
#136 Sweden
#145 Luxembourg
#176 Denmark
#180 Belgium
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:51 am

04wayne wrote:
denise wrote:Again that remain an "IF" because there is no a "FACT" that proves the contrary...ok....bye
Except the fact that Hard Candy was her lowest-selling studio album to date, and couldn't even manage platinum.

If her selling power was all that strong, her fan base would've shelled out for Hard Candy; fact is, they didn't.

4 Minutes sold because of the collaboration.
Lol, single sales are not strectly related to album sales and that is proven by even the hottest and younger names who sold billions of single these days and in comparison "relatively" way lesser amount of album.

And HC in the context for an act of her age still sold quite well if you ask me.
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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:51 am

NoAngel wrote:Someone really can't hide jealousy :roll:
Oh I couldn't give a shit if she sold 3m or 6m copies of 4 Minutes! :lol:

I'm simply stating an opinion shared by many.
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Postby NoAngel » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:52 am

You mean shared by you or did you do some kind of poll or something?
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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:54 am

denise wrote:Lol, single sales are not strectly related to album sales and that is proven by even the hottest and younger names who sold billions of single these days and in comparison "relatively" way lesser amount of album.

And HC in the context for an act of her age still sold quite well if you ask me.
But the point is that from her lowest-selling album she obtained her highest-selling single; she isn't Rihanna or Katy Perry or Lady Gaga - she's Madonna. The supposed Queen of Popular music and one of the most reliable album sellers of all-time.

That excuse of there being no correlation probably holds some substance with young artists - I'm not at all saying that Justin is 100% responsible for the hit. But the fact that the two collaborated is definitely the reason that the single sold 3m copies.
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Postby stevyy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:04 am

yeah, with 3m digital downloads of 4m sold, she is the only of her peers to have a 3m seller (digitally).. but watch out Madonna, All I want for Christmas is you (2.250.000 so far) will be there too in 3 years max. :lol:

Madonna always does something big first and Mariah follows suit. :wink: love that. Whitney's I will always love you will also one day join the 3m elite club. The song will hit 2m in a few months.

But fact is, Madonna did it first!!

btw, isn't it nice how such a record attracs a Celine and Mariah stan so fast to post here? :lol:
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:20 am

04wayne wrote:
denise wrote:Lol, single sales are not strectly related to album sales and that is proven by even the hottest and younger names who sold billions of single these days and in comparison "relatively" way lesser amount of album.

And HC in the context for an act of her age still sold quite well if you ask me.
But the point is that from her lowest-selling album she obtained her highest-selling single; she isn't Rihanna or Katy Perry or Lady Gaga - she's Madonna. The supposed Queen of Popular music and one of the most reliable album sellers of all-time.

That excuse of there being no correlation probably holds some substance with young artists - I'm not at all saying that Justin is 100% responsible for the hit. But the fact that the two collaborated is definitely the reason that the single sold 3m copies.
That IS totally misleading ....again it's the digital era alone that pump that title as M's biggest single.....there is no way for me that 4M can be classified as her most succesfull single despite the fact that it undoubtely benefited of the digital era effect: and that no one is denying it.

And noone is putting excuses, as for the 5th time in a row i repeat again, there is not a prove at the light of the day, that you like it or not, that the single could sell less if she released as solo, simply because that has NEVER happened and hasn't been the case...that's the reality of the fatc: other than that yours and someoneelse are just assumptions.

And once and for all, will you all stop to use statement such as " ok she is the Queen of pop and she have to sell obligatorily a lot" when is convenient to you (and i mean "you" not personally): that's a total BS: she is the most succesfull female act ever (and by far) but that doesn't mean she has to hit till the eternity: for God Sake, she is in the range by now of those acts close to the 60 y o age, and what she keep selling in her context still looks incredible well in front of her peers.
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Postby DaBoi » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:20 am

stevyy wrote:, isn't it nice how such a record attracs a Celine and Mariah stan so fast to post here? :lol:
To be honest no, Wayne goes on and on until he literally ruins the thread, just have a look on this page.
But yeah it's always a pleasure to read your posts my German lamb :lol:
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Postby denise » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:24 am

stevyy wrote:yeah, with 3m digital downloads of 4m sold, she is the only of her peers to have a 3m seller (digitally).. but watch out Madonna, All I want for Christmas is you (2.250.000 so far) will be there too in 3 years max. :lol:

Lol true...other 2 or 3 XMAS and Mariah will be there to surpass :evil: :cry: :lol:
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Postby alek » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27 am

04wayne wrote:
tada wrote:wow! 3M finally :D :D
i guess she's the only from "old 80/90s female league" who sold 3M units of a given song...i mean Mariah, Whitney, Celiné, Janet
Whitney did about 5m units of I Will Always Love You.
nice 4 whitney , other female artists didn t get this, also whitney need to die to improve more I will always you digital sales in US , and other female artists did collaborations with hot artists and didn t get that too

4 sure she is madonna , THE QUEEN, she got a 3m sold song after 25 years that she started, what other female artist can get that ?

and its not fair that compare Magde with katy or Rihanna , they started on digital era , Madonna not

justin never got that kind of hit with Rihanna or Beyonce , the succes of the song is because Madonna too

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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:38 am

Okay, I'm done :lol:

DaFool - shut your face.
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Postby Nichu94 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:40 am

04wayne wrote:But most will recognise that 4 Minutes sold primarily because of the Justin collaboration.
It didn't happen the same when Justin was featured in a Ciara single though.

Remarkable achievement. As someone else has already pointed out, no other 80s/90s divas have got a 3 million digital seller, released during the digital era.
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Postby alek » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:41 am

stevyy wrote:yeah, with 3m digital downloads of 4m sold, she is the only of her peers to have a 3m seller (digitally).. but watch out Madonna, All I want for Christmas is you (2.250.000 so far) will be there too in 3 years max. :lol:

Madonna always does something big first and Mariah follows suit. :wink: love that. Whitney's I will always love you will also one day join the 3m elite club. The song will hit 2m in a few months.

But fact is, Madonna did it first!!

btw, isn't it nice how such a record attracs a Celine and Mariah stan so fast to post here? :lol:
aha , well its not necesary bring Mariah here , why people can t consider that like a prayer is going to 800,000 digital songs , song from 1989, in 2 or 3 years like a prayer will cross the 1 m mark of digital sales , and imagine if Madonna die , 4 sure like a prayer digital sales will explote.
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Postby Wayne » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:43 am

Nichu94 wrote:
04wayne wrote:But most will recognise that 4 Minutes sold primarily because of the Justin collaboration.
It didn't happen the same when Justin was featured in a Ciara single though.

Remarkable achievement. As someone else has already pointed out, no other 80s/90s divas have got a 3 million digital seller, released during the digital era.
And as I said - credit doesn't primarily lie with Justin. Madonna also.
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