ASM, fair enough. I suppose I used to (when I was younger) pretend that Zep were up there in the UK, with regard to everyhing, sales, fans etc, but in subsequent years I have taken a more rational outlook on their status In the UK. They certainly are a very big band, but really can't compete with a lot of other artists in the UK. Queen for instance are nowhere near Zep interms of US sales, fans, concert attendances, yet over here they are massive easily beating Zep on all accounts. I really think in a way the no singles decision, has kind of back fired on them in the long run. Bands like Queen, Beatles, U2, Rolling Stones etc, through singles, tv appearances, videos have placed themselves more and deeper into the minds of the UK music buying public, well general public. 8 UK number 1's is a remarkable feat (out of 9 releases, at the time) but I put that down to a very large hardcore fanbase, they dont sell (beyond say the first 4 LP's) to the general public as much as say The Beatles or Queen, look at best of sales for the 3 bands, Remasters has done Double Platinum 600,000 in the UK (probably more now), but the Beatles and Queen comps' have shifted immense amounts. I feel the same could be levelled at Pink Floyd, OK Dark Side still sells, maybe The Wall and Wish You Were Here do as well, but beyond that I can't imagine anything still shifting great number per year (maybe Echoes). You could ask any Joe Bloggs of the street to name 10 Queen, Beatles, Rolling Stones songs and they could, but I'd be surprised if your average man knew 1 Zep song outside Stairway To Heaven, same with The Floyd maybe Another Brick, Wish You Were Here, but not many or any more.