Last year, I said:
Basically, either from about 1986 or 1991 to now, Queen have practically achieved better catalogue sales than any other band if you focus on material released two years or one and half year before. So for Queen, you have to count albums like "A Kind Of Magic" or "Greatest Hits II" (both released after 1986), but not their initial sales and just what they sold as back catalogue items. If we combined Queen's studio albums with their compilations sales, as back catalogue items during the last decades, I wouldn't be surprised if Queen have sold more than any other band (except possibly for the Beatles).
I have been trying to find out about
Queen's back catalogue sales in the UK, not for 2011, but
from about 1984 to now. It is a good year to begin due to some of the annual sales from Record Mirror being available since then; and in later years (from June 1992 to 2008), the net shipments figures provided by Jimmypages59 (these last totals being absolutely undisputable, in my opinion).
Last year, I suggested that Queen have sold more back catalogue albums than any other bands in the UK for the past 25 or 30 years, which is a tough thing to confirm, of course.
And that was because some people (if I remember correcly) were challenging Queen's back catalogue sales in the UK.
An album is regarded as a back catalogue item, once it gets one year and half old (or two years). For example, "A Kind Of Magic" and "Live Magic" (both released in 1986) became 'back catalogue albums', at least from my point of view, during 1988; "The Miracle" (released in 1989), during 1991; "Greatest Hits II" (released in late 1991), during late 1993 or early 1994; and so on.
Here is my attempt:
From
1984 to 1990, I will use Record Mirror's sales totals:
Studio and live albums
1984
Queen sold approximately
1,010,000 albums, including roughly
200,000 coming from their studio albums.
Thus, back catalogue studio albums sold around
200,000.
Below are Queen's positions in the annual Top 200. Based on some things I observed, I think "A Night At The Opera" sold about 30,000 units at #279 and the album at #535 sold about 15,000. It looks like sales in the positions between 250 and 550 were very close to each other (something like 30,000 sold against 15,000, or so).
Positions:
279 (about 30,000)
398 (25,000)
413 (22,500)
439 (20,000)
443 (20,000)
448 (20,000)
468 (20,000)
535 (15,000)
622 (12,500)
655 (10,000)
987 (5,000 or less)
1985
Queen sold
460,000 copies during that year.
"Greatest Hits" sold about
225,000 and "The Works" probably about 90,000 (maximum).
This leaves
145,000 for the rest of their back catalogue (studio and live from 1973 to 1982).
1986
Queen sold
1,462,000 albums. Including "A Kind Of Magic" (approximately 650,000 copies), "Greatest Hits" (around 275,000) and "Live Magic" (roughly 270,000). Those three albums sold a combined 1,195,000.
This leaves
267,000 for the rest of their back catalogue, including about 30,000 sales for "A Night At The Opera" and probably some 50,000 for "The Works".
1987
Queen sold
758,000 albums. Including "Live Magic" (confirmed 260,000 units), "Greatest Hits" (confirmed 170,000) and "A Kind Of Magic" (estimated at 100,000 copies). Those three albums sold a combined 530,000.
That leaves
228,000 units for the rest of their back catalogue albums.
1988
Queen sold
313,000 albums. "Greatest Hits" sold 75,000 to 100,000.
That leaves
213,000 to 238,000 for the rest of their catalogue.
1989
Queen sold
861,000 albums. Including "The Miracle" (480,000 units sold), "Greatest Hits" (around 75,000) and "Queen At The Beeb" (7,500 or so).
This leaves
299,000 units for their back catalogue albums.
1990
Queen sold about
290,000 albums. "Greatest Hits" probably did 75,000 and "The Miracle" no more than 30,000 ("Queen At The Beeb" some 5,000 or maybe a bit more).
This leaves
180,000 for the rest of their back catalogue albums.
In total, we have the following back catalogue sales from their studio albums:
1984 -
200,000
1985 -
145,000
1986 -
267,000 ("The Works" added as back catalogue)
1987 -
228,000
1988 -
238,000 ("A Kind Of Magic" and "Live Magic" added)
1989 -
299,000
1990 -
180,000
Total -
1,557,000 albums sold. These are estimated, so I guess it is better to provide a range between
1,400,000 and 1,600,000 in reality.
These are all studio and live albums sales. In the meantime (1984 to 1990), "Greatest Hits" sold roughly as follows every year:
1984 -
180,000
1985 -
225,000
1986 -
275,000
1987 -
170,000
1988 -
100,000
1989 -
75,000
1990 -
75,000
Total -
1,100,000
I suppose club sales are excluded from both totals (
1,557,000 for their studio albums and
1,100,000 for their first official compilation), in which case their sales will have been higher.
Totals:
Studio and live albums -
1,557,000
Greatest Hits –
1,100,000
A combined
2,657,000.
If Jimmy had worked his magic for the years between 1984 and 1990, how would their sales have looked like? The above totals are supposed to be retail sales and, even though I can never fully understand it, I think music club sales were excluded (although some people believe that they were indirectly included in some years, due to the use of high multipliers, no idea myself).
If these total sales (
2,657,000 back catalogue sales) are to be taken as normal retail sales, the real net shipments figures (as those that Jimmypages59 has provided us with) will have been slighltly higher, probably ranging between
2,750,000 to 3,000,000.
1991 and 1992
Those two years saw an obvious increase on their sales.
Difficult to know how much they sold with their back catalogue albums. For instance, "Greatest Hits" is supposed to have physically shipped nearly a million copies between 1991 and early 1992, for it to reach 11 times platinum (3,300,000 copies sold in January 1992); however, as I'm going to use some of Jimmy's net shipments for later years, there may be a possible overlapping, which makes things very complicated.
Overall, "Greatest Hits" is likely to have shipped
700,000 between 1991 and 1992 (in terms of Royalty Based Sales), at least that is what Jimmy would have shown in his annual sales, if he had been able to work on that period (1991 to June 1992).
Not so sure about their studio and live albums between 1991 and the first semester of 1992. I guess their albums may have sold as much as what "Greatest Hits" sold; that is, a combined
700,000 (with "A Night At The Opera", "A Kind Of Magic" and especially "Live Magic" as their biggest selling items).
We would have between 1991 and June 1992:
Greatest Hits –
700,000
Studio and live albums –
700,000
Total:
1,400,000
June 1992 to 2008
Jimmy makes things easier:
Queen –
128,744
Queen II –
135,588
Sheer Heart Attack –
125,816
A Night At The Opera –
353,286
A Day At The Races –
160,969
News Of The World –
102,597
Jazz –
85,956
Live Killers –
79,509
The Game –
78,673
Flash Gordon –
42,613
Greatest Hits –
1,994,263
Hot Space –
47,596
The Works –
95,596
A Kind Of Magic –
268,683
Live Magic –
171,385
The Miracle –
73,138
Queen At The Beeb –
49,835 (to 1995)
Innuendo –
173,060
Greatest Hits II –
1,151,165
Live At Wembley –
349,684 (to 2006)
Plus, some back catalogue sales for "Made In Heaven" (
60,635 since 1998); "Queen Rocks" (
4,785 from 2000 to 2002); "Greatest Hits III" (
106,442 since 2002); "Platinum Collection" (
900,000 from 2003 to 2008).
I don't have a separate breakdown for "Greatest Hits I & II", I lost track of it. But it will have achieved about
125,000 as a back catalogue item.
Approximated total from June 1992 to 2008 –
6,864,598
Some club sales are missing for several titles, especially during the second half of 1992 and the first one of 1993; plus some missing sales from "Queen At The Beeb" and "Live At Wembley". With all of that in mind, their back catalogue sales from June 1992 to 2008 will have been
7,000,000.
2009 to 2012
Not that big to some extent. They shipped some
400,000 coming from back catalogue, I would say.
Mainly during 2011, with 300,000 sales overall, including: some 150,000 coming from their fifteen studio albums (an average of 10,000 unis per title, with some albums being above that mark and others below); 125,000 from "Greatest Hits" and "Greatest Hits II" together; and the other 25,000 from "Platinum Collection" and even "Live At Wembley".
The other 100,000 were achieved between 2009 and 2010 (very marginal sales).
By periods:
1984 to 1990 –
2,750,000
1991 to 1992 –
1,400,000
1992 to 2008 –
7,000,000
2009 to 2012 –
400,000
Total back catalogue sales:
11,550,000
These numbers aren't perfect for a number of reasons. The sales between 1991 and early 1992 are, in particular, the most difficult to solve.
But still, from 1984 to 2012, I can't think of any band that has sold as many catalogue albums as Queen have during that time period, not even the Beatles. At best, they are at the same level, but I doubt it myself.
If we couple the above albums sales with both their music videos and digital tracks (as catalogue), Queen are easily above anyone else, in my opinion.
I just don't understand how some people still dispute Queen's popularity in the UK.