Usher - Raymond Vs. Raymond / Versus

by **spc08** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:54 am

No Title yet. Just seen an interview from MTV. Usher said top of 09. Im guessing latest in April should be release date. Seems so early to talk about it with nothing really confirmed and still touring.
http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/316628/i ... id=1598897

by **ausmsclvr** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:18 am

omg...so soon!

by **spc08** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:32 am

I know I just hope it isnt rushed. Just released Here I Stand in May. What 6 months ago.

If he releases everything as planned it wont even make a full year. That has to be the fastest album release then previous one in history. Lol. And not a re-release album.

by **Hype** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:22 am

lol is it cos Here I Stand has bombed?

by **jpguy** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:58 am

I think there was a topic for this already, anyways, I'm sure he'll do better this time

:P

by **Crazytowel** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:08 am

I hope so, but saying that I really love Here I Stand. I think it's better than confessions.

by **Deacon94** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:45 am

I like Here i stand more then first album!!!

by **Blizzy** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:46 pm

spc08 wrote:I know I just hope it isnt rushed. Just released Here I Stand in May. What 6 months ago. If he releases everything as planned it wont even make a full year. That has to be the fastest album release then previous one in history. Lol. And not a re-release album.

haha

Riri holds that title :lol:

LastFM · by **phoenix98** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:55 pm

Blizzy wrote:
spc08 wrote:I know I just hope it isnt rushed. Just released Here I Stand in May. What 6 months ago. If he releases everything as planned it wont even make a full year. That has to be the fastest album release then previous one in history. Lol. And not a re-release album.
haha

Riri holds that title

Music Of The Sun = August '05
A Girl LIke Me = April '06
GGGB = June '07

this Usher situation reminds me more of Janet than Rihanna, though...instead of taking time off after an album that underperforms, they just rush right into the next release (a la Janet with Damita Jo, 20 Y.O., and Discipline)

by **spc08** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:29 am

Blizzy wrote:
spc08 wrote:I know I just hope it isnt rushed. Just released Here I Stand in May. What 6 months ago. If he releases everything as planned it wont even make a full year. That has to be the fastest album release then previous one in history. Lol. And not a re-release album.
haha

Riri holds that title

Oh yeah I forgot she can turn over a new album in 30 days or less guaranteed LMAO! :lol:

by **spc08** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:31 am

phoenix98 wrote:
Blizzy wrote:
spc08 wrote:I know I just hope it isnt rushed. Just released Here I Stand in May. What 6 months ago. If he releases everything as planned it wont even make a full year. That has to be the fastest album release then previous one in history. Lol. And not a re-release album.
haha

Riri holds that title
Music Of The Sun = August '05
A Girl LIke Me = April '06
GGGB = June '07

this Usher situation reminds me more of Janet than Rihanna, though...instead of taking time off after an album that underperforms, they just rush right into the next release (a la Janet with Damita Jo, 20 Y.O., and Discipline)

I was thinking same thing. Just relax. I so hope he delivers on this album. Although I liked Here I Stand just not as ultimate as Confessions.

by **RapUpPlayer** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:25 pm

I really hope he WONT work with JD on this album.

by **alxx** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:32 pm

I hope he includes That Girl Right There with Ludacris - it has the potential to be a US #1 easily.

by **spc08** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:06 pm

RapUpPlayer wrote:I really hope he WONT work with JD on this album.

DEFINITELY!!! :lol:

by **spc08** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:08 pm

alxx wrote:I hope he includes That Girl Right There with Ludacris - it has the potential to be a US #1 easily.

Yeah I like that song. I hope he goes through with Whats Your Name. Its already been picked up by a cell phone carrier as a promo song to meet him. I forgot the name. I think Samsung or something. idk

by **Tripped** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:55 pm

I hope he does work with JD.
It's a great idea in theory to follow up an under-performing album so quickly - Discipline is definitely a good template to follow (hopefully finishing with a better album though).

by **kushi** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:30 pm

Well this will be good, by comparison.

by **Hype** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:58 pm

I was listening to Here I Stand earlier, He should just re-release it! It's got some awsome songs on it! It deserves another chance

by **pmape** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:36 pm

I really hope he WONT work with JD on this album.

yeah I know right, I felt "Best Thing" & "Somethin' Special" sounded like leftover tracks ; along with "Last Kiss" & "Thanx for Nothin" from Mariah's E=MC2 earlier dis year.

Its clear jermaine dupri is not relevant. & stargates played out kinda also.

Usher just needs some Polow Da Don, Danja, Tricky-Stewart/The-Dream, & Bangladesh.

by **Tripped** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:57 pm

pmape wrote:
I really hope he WONT work with JD on this album.
yeah I know right, I felt "Best Thing" & "Somethin' Special" sounded like leftover tracks ; along with "Last Kiss" & "Thanx for Nothin" from Mariah's E=MC2 earlier dis year.

Its clear jermaine dupri is not relevant. & stargates played out kinda also.

I'm aware I'm in a minority with this, but I honestly think the songs you listed there are amongst the strongest from their respective albums.

by **RapUpPlayer** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:34 pm

pmape wrote:
I really hope he WONT work with JD on this album.
yeah I know right, I felt "Best Thing" & "Somethin' Special" sounded like leftover tracks ; along with "Last Kiss" & "Thanx for Nothin" from Mariah's E=MC2 earlier dis year.

Its clear jermaine dupri is not relevant. & stargates played out kinda also.

Usher just needs some Polow Da Don, Danja, Tricky-Stewart/The-Dream, & Bangladesh.

I totally agree with everything u said leftover tracks and the producers etc..

Although Usher & JD have/had chemistry i think its really time for him to move on and try new things if he wants to be successful again.

by **Plym** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:19 pm

Tripped wrote:
pmape wrote:
I really hope he WONT work with JD on this album.
yeah I know right, I felt "Best Thing" & "Somethin' Special" sounded like leftover tracks ; along with "Last Kiss" & "Thanx for Nothin" from Mariah's E=MC2 earlier dis year.

Its clear jermaine dupri is not relevant. & stargates played out kinda also.
I'm aware I'm in a minority with this, but I honestly think the songs you listed there are amongst the strongest from their respective albums.

Me too!
Minority rules!

by **Mai4** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:42 am

Best Thing & Thanks 4 Nothin' have strong lyrics and vocals. Both are somewhat standouts.

But "Something Special" and "Last Kiss" are FAR from standouts. And I agree that they sound like typical leftover JD.

by **Tripped** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:24 pm

Plym wrote:Minority rules!

Mai4 wrote:Best Thing & Thanks 4 Nothin' have strong lyrics and vocals. Both are somewhat standouts.

But "Something Special" and "Last Kiss" are FAR from standouts. And I agree that they sound like typical leftover JD.

Well yeah, they probably are verging into 'filler' territory, but they still stand out for sounding so well-crafted compared to many of the other tracks. He gets so much flak (albeit much of it is deserved) but not many producers pay such attention to detail as JD does when he's working with an artist he cares about i.e. Usher, Mariah.

by **LetMeLoveU** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:33 pm

usher is the new 50 cent :wink: