Janet Jackson

by **sambo9** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:41 am

freexone1 wrote:
Pawlu84 wrote:Damita Jo is great much better than All for you, even though her voice is a bit weak in DJ.
Janets voice is not weak. She has a unique style. In fact often the reason why she sounds weak is cause shes hitting high notes and her tone interprets it as a whispery sound.
Damita jo has many vocally 'loud' tracks, 'sexibition', 'island life', 'i want you', 'what can i say' to name a few.

Can't you ever just let someone say something critical without telling them they're wrong?

by **Star** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:03 pm

sambo9 wrote:Can't you ever just let someone say something critical without telling them they're wrong?

by **ForeverYoung** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:52 pm

freexone1 wrote:
Pawlu84 wrote:Damita Jo is great much better than All for you, even though her voice is a bit weak in DJ.

I don't agree. "Damita Jo" is the last album Janet showcased some great vocals:

Island Life
Put It On You
What Can I Say
I Want You
Pops Up
Just A Little While

hell, even Sexhibition kills both "20 Y.O." and "Discipline" vocally, IMHO.

by **Pawlu84** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:11 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:
freexone1 wrote:
Pawlu84 wrote:Damita Jo is great much better than All for you, even though her voice is a bit weak in DJ.
I don't agree. "Damita Jo" is the last album Janet showcased some great vocals:

Island Life
Put It On You
What Can I Say
I Want You
Pops Up
Just A Little While

hell, even Sexhibition kills both "20 Y.O." and "Discipline" vocally, IMHO.

Yes but songs like My Baby, Sexhibition, Spending time with you etc you can barely hear her. Also I think Enjoy is just as good vocally as the songs you mentioned.I want a new song in the same vein as All for you strong vocals, great beat and superb video.

by **ForeverYoung** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:14 pm

Agreed with you on AFY. "Feedback" and RWU aside, AFY was her last really great single.

In general, it would be nice if she made another album with a bunch of songs like AFY: uplifting, colorful and energetic.

by **freexone1** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:41 pm

Pawlu84 wrote:
ForeverYoung wrote:
freexone1 wrote:
Pawlu84 wrote:Damita Jo is great much better than All for you, even though her voice is a bit weak in DJ.
I don't agree. "Damita Jo" is the last album Janet showcased some great vocals:

Island Life
Put It On You
What Can I Say
I Want You
Pops Up
Just A Little While

hell, even Sexhibition kills both "20 Y.O." and "Discipline" vocally, IMHO.
Yes but songs like My Baby, Sexhibition, Spending time with you etc you can barely hear her. Also I think Enjoy is just as good vocally as the songs you mentioned.I want a new song in the same vein as All for you strong vocals, great beat and superb video.

I respect your opinion, but in those songs her voice isn't weak. She is hitting high notes. Many would struggle to pull off her vocals in the same manner, without their vouce cracking. Just sayin...
A great example is 'special' on the Velvet Rope album.
She isnt whispering as if shes lost her voice, she is singing with a high register.
And when she speaks on the song u can hear it is much deeper.

by **Titan3510** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:23 pm

Actually, Janet's voice is weak.

I'm not saying that she can't belt and growl out a song if she wanted to...because she can...

...but listen to her speaking voice.

In order for her to sing with power and volume, Janet has to really try...

by **freexone1** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:53 pm

Titan3510 wrote:Actually, Janet's voice is weak.

I'm not saying that she can't belt and growl out a song if she wanted to...because she can...

...but listen to her speaking voice.

In order for her to sing with power and volume, Janet has to really try...

Belting does not automatically make u a good singer. In fact many refer to it as shouting.
Janet is ur karen carpenter and ur Agnetha Fältskog.
They were/are higly admired for their voices but they never belted like ur whitneys.
They like janet have soft feminine tones. To me, they are real female singers.
Janets vocals are not weak at all in my opinion. She hits some amazing notes and has so much variety, a low and high register, a brilliant ability to emote, to sound in suffering, in love, or even sensual.
Christina Agubelter, Mariah Carey and Whitney can shut up with their warbles. They are just a noise.

by **NavyCommodore** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:24 am

Janet isn't the best singer but her tone is nice and she makes great music soo... enjoy it, she doesn't act like she's the best vocalist so why debate it?

She's an Icon already, and we love her for a reason.

by **Pawlu84** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:02 am

I really want a new album but I have a fear it will bomb

Heartbeat love was so hot it could have done very well if it was ever released.

by **biscuits** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:14 am

freexone1 wrote:
Titan3510 wrote:Actually, Janet's voice is weak.

I'm not saying that she can't belt and growl out a song if she wanted to...because she can...

...but listen to her speaking voice.

In order for her to sing with power and volume, Janet has to really try...
Belting does not automatically make u a good singer.

I agree. I get so much more feeling and emotion from a Janet track than I do from a Whitney track. (Mariah is a different case because she really uses her vocals well and has such a diverse range).

To me, Janet has a superb singing voice. Not a belting voice, but a genuine, emotional singing voice.

by **ForeverYoung** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:25 am

Pawlu84 wrote:I really want a new album but I have a fear it will bomb

This is what I fear too. Unless she has a mammoth promotional campaign behind her by her record company and an undeniably hot album, I just don't think the album will be successful unfortunately.

I don't care that much if it's a hit album though, as long as it's of high quality and her tour supporting it is successful.

by **GetBack** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:28 pm

Every era is a great era for Janet. The only problem is that within two months after the album release, they give up already.

by **Titan3510** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:23 pm

biscuits wrote:
freexone1 wrote:
Titan3510 wrote:Actually, Janet's voice is weak.

I'm not saying that she can't belt and growl out a song if she wanted to...because she can...

...but listen to her speaking voice.

In order for her to sing with power and volume, Janet has to really try...
Belting does not automatically make u a good singer.
I agree. I get so much more feeling and emotion from a Janet track than I do from a Whitney track. (Mariah is a different case because she really uses her vocals well and has such a diverse range).

To me, Janet has a superb singing voice. Not a belting voice, but a genuine, emotional singing voice.

I'm not saying that it does.

There are lots of bad singers who can belt the shingles off the roof...

I never said that Janet wasn't a good singer. Because she's very talented and she knows how to use it.

I just said that her singing voice is weak which, in comparison to a lot of other people (male or female), it is.

by **BlueScorpion** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:53 pm

As much as I love Mariah, some of her songs are more impressive than expressive. Janet's "Tonight's the night", "Anytime, Anyplace" or "Let's Wait a While" sound really well. Anyway, it doesn't matter, because Janet's point IS dancing, not vocals.

by **Titan3510** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:58 pm

BlueScorpion wrote:As much as I love Mariah, some of her songs are more impressive than expressive.

Now, I know this isn't the right thread for this but let me say this:

I used to buy into that statement a lot...until I explored Mariah's discography for myself. Now that I know better, that statement is little more than ignorant cop-out.

Back to Janet.

Janet's "Tonight's the night", "Anytime, Anyplace" or "Let's Wait a While" sound really well. Anyway, it doesn't matter, because Janet's point IS dancing, not vocals.

Janet is a very talented singer.

All those songs you listed are really good examples of her vocal abilities.

I'm just saying...Janet's singing voice doesn't have much heft to it. That's not to mean that I value her any less or that she's not a talented singer.

It just means that Janet's singing can be underwhelming someimtes because it's not that strong.

by **stevyy** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:00 pm

janet has a very soft voice. she is no vocal powerhouse and yet she created timeless and meaningful songs. Janet's discography is just as great as the one of her contemporaries: Madonna, Celine, Mariah and Whitney. That is why I would always include her to the list of mega icons.

by **BlueScorpion** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:07 pm

Regarding Mariah, what I said is true. Mariah doesn't relate to some of her stuff and she lacks any sign of emotion.

@Stevyy: Janet should be on par with Madonna, Mariah, Celine, Whitney, etc. on a worldwide level in terms of stardom. She's a creative genius.

by **Titan3510** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:11 pm

BlueScorpion wrote:Regarding Mariah, what I said is true. Mariah doesn't relate to some of her stuff and she lacks any sign of emotion.

Well whatever...

If you honestly believe that Mariah's singing is generally void of emotion...

...then I have nothing more to say to you.

by **ThaInfo1** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:23 pm

I've been really into Lonely of off the Rhythm Nation album. Its so smooth...

by **Titan3510** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:33 pm

ThaInfo1 wrote:I've been really into Lonely of off the Rhythm Nation album. Its so smooth...

What do you think of The Velvet Rope.

by **BlueScorpion** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:50 pm

Titan3510 wrote:
BlueScorpion wrote:Regarding Mariah, what I said is true. Mariah doesn't relate to some of her stuff and she lacks any sign of emotion.
Well whatever...

If you honestly believe that Mariah's singing is generally void of emotion...

...then I have nothing more to say to you.

I said some songs, not "generally". Don't have selective reading. :wink:

by **stevyy** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:00 pm

ThaInfo1 wrote:I've been really into Lonely of off the Rhythm Nation album. Its so smooth...

just listened to it yesterday. awesome track.

by **ForeverYoung** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:46 pm

I get what Titan is saying when he describes Janet's voice as "weak". Even when Janet belts, she doesn't have that astonishing power. In that sense, yes her voice is weak.

That's doesn't take anything away from her vocal abilities though. The emotion and just the actual tone of Janet's voice is unparalleled to me. One only has to listen to the acapella-ish intro of "Better Days" to hear how emotional her voice is. I like that better than the voice of say Whitney or Patti LaBelle.

And she has an amazing range too; just take a listen to the whole "Love Will Never Do (Without You)".

by **Lorenzo** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:30 pm

Janet fans: I'm looking for a performance. Lonely @ the TMF awards 98 in Rotterdam. I was there. I don't remember ish though, i was 7 years old. So this performance is very special to me.