The Hits Daily Double Thread

by **Nackar** » Fri May 25, 2012 8:48 pm

^ There is a huge difference between an indie rock band being signed and expected to sell maybe 50k with their first album, that then sell 25k, but after five albums suddenly hit it big on one hand, and a majorly hyped talent-show winner (let alone third place!) that gets offered a contract on a one-off chance. These are expected to PROVIDE and QUICKLY.

If she can't do so satisfactory, it wouldn't be weird for the label to drop her.

I'm not saying that's what WILL happen nor am I saying that has to be the case here, but talent show contestants that get signed are surely expected to perform well right from the start (especially as many tend to drop off in popularity after their first album).

by **NothingFails** » Fri May 25, 2012 9:21 pm

Nackar wrote:^ There is a huge difference between an indie rock band being signed and expected to sell maybe 50k with their first album, that then sell 25k, but after five albums suddenly hit it big on one hand, and a majorly hyped talent-show winner (let alone third place!) that gets offered a contract on a one-off chance. These are expected to PROVIDE and QUICKLY.

If she can't do so satisfactory, it wouldn't be weird for the label to drop her.

I'm not saying that's what WILL happen nor am I saying that has to be the case here, but talent show contestants that get signed are surely expected to perform well right from the start (especially as many tend to drop off in popularity after their first album).

I disdain Idol and the ilk with a passion, but I do think it's sad that these artists are abandoned and dropped with numbers both new artists would be considered success stories with. Most first album after Idol stories are considered crap. Usually its the second album where the artist actually gets more of a shot to actually bring themselves to the forefront whereas the debut album is basically a faceless product with lots of hired songwriters and producers. Kelly's debut album was nothing compared to the success of her second, even Adam (which is falling fast)'s second album is getting stronger reviews because this album is more what people expected from him compared to the Pink/Katy Perry knockoffs that were all over his debut.

I feel bad that so many of these Idol people were thrown to the wolves because their first album couldn't match Kelly. Yet you see The Black Keys for instance whose first album came out in early 2002 and charted nowhere and ten years later they are one of the top rock bands in America now. Their debut album could've never scored the success that their later work has, the newer stuff is more polished and they have improved on their craft. Yet in Idol-world they would've been dropped off the planet over that debut album. Most artists need time to grow artistically before they explode. Even The Beatles for several years were going from club to club perfecting their sound before they finally were signed and became overnight superstars.

by **thebigham** » Tue May 29, 2012 3:40 pm

ONE year ago:

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/archcht.cgi?cht449

CHART DATE: 05/30/2011

-- 1 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 1,110,420 --
BORN THIS WAY
-- 2 BRAD PAISLEY ARISTA NASHVILLE 154,254 --
THIS IS COUNTRY MUSIC
1 3 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 126,415 -7%
21
-- 4 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 78,075 --
GLEE: THE MUSIC, VOL. 6
-- 5 MMG PRESENTS: SELF MADE, VOL. 1 MAYBACH MUSIC GROUP 53,133 --
VARIOUS ARTISTS
3 6 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 38 CAPITOL/EMI 46,094 -10%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 7 NKOTBSB COLUMBIA/JIVE/LEGACY 38,000 --
NKOTBSB
4 8 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 33,258 +17%
MY KINDA PARTY
-- 9 FOSTER THE PEOPLE STARTIME/COLUMBIA 32,517 --
TORCHES
5 10 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 23,853 -8%
SIGH NO MORE

by **tada** » Tue May 29, 2012 4:02 pm

God! Already one year since Gaga's week

by **NorfolkScot** » Tue May 29, 2012 4:40 pm

NOW IN: 68.46%

LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 154,180
BORN AND RAISED
2 2 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 39,607
21
3 3 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 36,743
BLOWN AWAY
10 4 ONE DIRECTION SYCO/COLUMBIA 29,416
UP ALL NIGHT
8 5 LIONEL RICHIE MERCURY NASHVILLE 23,370
TUSKEGEE
6 6 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 42 CAPITOL/EMI 23,134
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 7 SARA BAREILLES EPIC 22,125
ONCE UPON ANOTHER TIME
-- 8 KIMBRA WARNER BROS. 16,857
VOWS
1 9 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA 16,245
TRESPASSING
-- 10 SLASH FEAT. MYLES KENNEDY DIK HAYD/EMI 15,792
APOCALYPTIC LOVE
7 11 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 15,328
THE GRADUATION ALBUM
-- 12 HALEY REINHART 19/INTERSCOPE 14,100
LISTEN UP!
14 13 GOTYE FAIRFAX/UNIV REPUBLIC 13,939
MAKING MIRRORS
-- 14 MERCYME FAIR TRADE 13,251
HURT & THE HEALER
-- 15 KRIS ALLEN 19/RCA 13,149
THANK YOU CAMELLIA
13 16 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 12,903
TAILGATES & TANLINES
17 17 NICKI MINAJ YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 12,815
PINK FRIDAY... ROMAN RELOADED
23 18 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 11,572
MY KINDA PARTY
16 19 GARBAGE STUN VOLUME 10,203
NOT YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE
5 20 TENACIOUS D COLUMBIA 9,599
RIZE OF THE FENIX
22 21 ERIC CHURCH CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 9,325
CHIEF
25 22 KIP MOORE MCA NASHVILLE 9,132
UP ALL NIGHT
12 23 JACK WHITE THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA 8,807
BLUNDERBUSS
31 24 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 8,790
TALK THAT TALK
21 25 B.O.B. GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 8,615
STRANGE CLOUDS
49 26 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 8,571
STRONGER
18 27 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 8,198
LOVE IS A FOUR LETTER WORD
27 28 FUN. FUELED BY RAMEN 8,177
SOME NIGHTS
11 29 SMASH CAST COLUMBIA 7,551
MUSIC OF SMASH
4 30 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE/EMI 7,322
LITTLE BROKEN HEARTS
33 31 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 7,167
19
29 32 TRAIN COLUMBIA 7,079
CALIFORNIA 37
30 33 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 6,683
TAKE CARE
40 34 RASCAL FLATTS BIG MACHINE 6,444
CHANGED
-- 35 THE WANTED MERCURY 6,143
THE WANTED
34 36 LEE BRICE CURB 6,106
HARD 2 LOVE
-- 37 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 5,963
SIGH NO MORE
-- 38 JOE BONAMASSA J&R ADVENTURES 5,957
DRIVING TOWARDS THE DAYLIGHT
37 39 OF MONSTERS & MEN UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 5,922
MY HEAD IS AN ANIMAL
50 40 WHITNEY HOUSTON RCA 5,886
WHITNEY - THE GREATEST HITS
26 41 ALABAMA SHAKES ATO 5,863
BOYS & GIRLS
35 42 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 5,729
EL CAMINO
-- 43 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 5,597
CEREMONIALS
43 44 TANK ATLANTIC 5,555
THIS IS HOW I FEEL
-- 45 BRANTLEY GILBERT BIG MACHINE 5,525
HALFWAY TO HEAVEN
-- 46 BEASTIE BOYS DEF JAM/IDJ 5,225
LICENSED TO ILL
36 47 MARY MARY COLUMBIA 5,171
GO GET IT
44 48 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 41 CAPITOL/EMI 5,125
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 49 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 5,046
HERE AND NOW
-- 50 LMFAO INTERSCOPE 4,967
SORRY FOR PARTY ROCKING

Last FM <3 · by **nickf1** » Tue May 29, 2012 4:45 pm

Please God top 10 debut for Kris

And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100 8-)

by **Formusic** » Tue May 29, 2012 4:58 pm

tada wrote:God! Already one year since Gaga's week

Scary how time flies so quickly :-?

I m afraid I d wake up someday and I d be a 80 year old dude waiting for death to come :lol:

John Mayer is still an album seller without a true hit

Florida should learn from him :lol:

by **Play** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:01 pm

nickf1 wrote:And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100

Just awesome! 8-)

by **cabanaboy** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:15 pm

-- 12 HALEY REINHART 19/INTERSCOPE 14,100
LISTEN UP!

Not even 100% reported! yay Haley!

by **thebigham** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:32 pm

New albums out today:

Rebecca Ferguson
Regina Spektor
Travis Porter
Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeroes
For Today
The Walkmen
The Lumineers
Sigur Ros
Wade Bowen

More at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=s9_dnav_bw_ ... _rd_i=5174

by **NorfolkScot** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:35 pm

Will be interesting to see Rebecca Ferguson's sales......

by **Formusic** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:39 pm

NorfolkScot wrote:Will be interesting to see Rebecca Ferguson's sales......

could she top Billboard ? I suppose Mayer will do 60-85, Adele too.

by **NorfolkScot** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:43 pm

Formusic wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:Will be interesting to see Rebecca Ferguson's sales......
could she top Billboard ? I suppose Mayer will do 60-85, Adele too.

I would love her tooooo, but I don't think she could. Amazing voice.

by **Timmy94** » Tue May 29, 2012 5:56 pm

nickf1 wrote:And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100

What's so special about it?
Jason Aldean's My Kinda Party is still in the top 30 18 months after the release - that is worth a WOW 8-)

.

by **fearlesswift13** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:01 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
nickf1 wrote:And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100
What's so special about it?
Jason Aldean's My Kinda Party is still in the top 30 18 months after the release - that is worth a WOW .

and Pink Floyd still charts from time to time and is over 800 weeks on the billboard 200 now that indeed deserves several WOWs 8-)

by **Timmy94** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:07 pm

NorfolkScot wrote:
Formusic wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:Will be interesting to see Rebecca Ferguson's sales......
could she top Billboard ? I suppose Mayer will do 60-85, Adele too.
I would love her tooooo, but I don't think she could. Amazing voice.

Is she even known in the US? Leona Lewis's album had a huge hit, Susan Boyle's album had a holiday appeal.
Both albums were huge successes in the UK, while Rebecca Ferguson's album did only OK there.

I don't see the basis to debut high (maybe she can balance that out with longevity), maybe 20k at best.

----

@fearlesswift13: That's right. WOW at that smash.
Though Dark Side Of The Moon is a classic so hard to compare. Torches did well in the US but I think there were other albums which did even better 8-)

. And staying in the top 100 for one year is not such a major achievement, might seem so because many albums fail to do so nowadays...

by **NorfolkScot** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:10 pm

^^^

She doing US promo (TV shows), with no hit single think she will do ok and that's a start.

by **truthless** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:15 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:
Formusic wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:Will be interesting to see Rebecca Ferguson's sales......
could she top Billboard ? I suppose Mayer will do 60-85, Adele too.
I would love her tooooo, but I don't think she could. Amazing voice.
Both albums were huge successes in the UK, while Rebecca Ferguson's album did only OK there.

Wait wait... Komm mal von deinem hohen Ross runter.
I don't know, how you describe "did okay" but the album was a success with over 500k sold vying for 600k and 2x Platinum.

Her UK success has nothing to do with the US one. We will see how far she can go in the USA, but with some promotion etc she can sell much.

by **NorfolkScot** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:24 pm

truthless wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:
Formusic wrote:
NorfolkScot wrote:Will be interesting to see Rebecca Ferguson's sales......
could she top Billboard ? I suppose Mayer will do 60-85, Adele too.
I would love her tooooo, but I don't think she could. Amazing voice.
Both albums were huge successes in the UK, while Rebecca Ferguson's album did only OK there.
Wait wait... Komm mal von deinem hohen Ross runter.
I don't know, how you describe "did okay" but the album was a success with over 500k sold vying for 600k and 2x Platinum.

Her UK success has nothing to do with the US one. We will see how far she can go in the USA, but with some promotion etc she can sell much.

Her album done fantastic in the UK, Timmy thinks every album needs to pass 1million sales to be Successful.

by **FliplovesMC** » Tue May 29, 2012 7:09 pm

thebigham wrote:New albums out today:

Rebecca Ferguson
Regina Spektor
Travis Porter
Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeroes
For Today
The Walkmen
The Lumineers
Sigur Ros
Wade Bowen

More at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=s9_dnav_bw_ ... _rd_i=5174

Will any of them crack the Top 10, I'm not sure....

by **NorfolkScot** » Tue May 29, 2012 8:12 pm

NOW IN: FINAL

LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 231,146 --
BORN AND RAISED
2 2 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 53,550 -11%
21
3 3 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 45,074 -14%
BLOWN AWAY
-- 4 MERCYME FAIR TRADE 36,963 --
HURT & THE HEALER
10 5 ONE DIRECTION SYCO/COLUMBIA 36,248 +6%
UP ALL NIGHT
-- 6 SLASH FEAT. MYLES KENNEDY DIK HAYD/EMI 34,085 --
APOCALYPTIC LOVE
8 7 LIONEL RICHIE MERCURY NASHVILLE 32,261 -15%
TUSKEGEE
-- 8 SARA BAREILLES EPIC 31,455 --
ONCE UPON ANOTHER TIME
6 9 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 42 CAPITOL/EMI 30,019 -30%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
4 10 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE/EMI 26,296 -44%
LITTLE BROKEN HEARTS
1 11 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA 23,507 -70%
TRESPASSING
-- 12 KIMBRA WARNER BROS. 22,041 --
VOWS
14 13 GOTYE FAIRFAX/UNIV REPUBLIC 21,749 +7%
MAKING MIRRORS
13 14 LUKE BRYAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 20,780 -2%
TAILGATES & TANLINES
12 15 JACK WHITE THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA 19,231 -17%
BLUNDERBUSS
-- 16 HALEY REINHART 19/INTERSCOPE 19,100 --
LISTEN UP!
37 17 OF MONSTERS & MEN UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 19,051 +97%
MY HEAD IS AN ANIMAL
-- 18 TEDESCHI TRUCKS BAND SONY MASTERWORKS 19,035 --
LIVE: EVERYBODY'S TALKIN'
16 19 GARBAGE STUN VOLUME 18,403 -3%
NOT YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE
7 20 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 18,261 -54%
THE GRADUATION ALBUM
17 21 NICKI MINAJ YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 18,174 +1%
PINK FRIDAY... ROMAN RELOADED
-- 22 JOE BONAMASSA J&R ADVENTURES 18,157 --
DRIVING TOWARDS THE DAYLIGHT
-- 23 KRIS ALLEN 19/RCA 16,918 --
THANK YOU CAMELLIA
22 24 ERIC CHURCH CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 15,471 +2%
CHIEF
5 25 TENACIOUS D COLUMBIA 14,758 -68%
RIZE OF THE FENIX
18 26 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 13,635 -17%
LOVE IS A FOUR LETTER WORD
9 27 BEACH HOUSE SUB POP 13,396 -63%
BLOOM
21 28 B.O.B. GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 12,303 -20%
STRANGE CLOUDS
26 29 ALABAMA SHAKES ATO 12,177 +6%
BOYS & GIRLS
31 30 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 11,633 +11%
TALK THAT TALK
23 31 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 11,572 -15%
MY KINDA PARTY
49 32 KELLY CLARKSON 19/RCA 11,321 +45%
STRONGER
27 33 FUN. FUELED BY RAMEN 10,985 -1%
SOME NIGHTS
-- 34 THE CULT COOKING VINYL 10,452 --
CHOICE OF WEAPON
25 35 KIP MOORE MCA NASHVILLE 10,412 -10%
UP ALL NIGHT
-- 36 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 10,359 --
CEREMONIALS
11 37 SMASH CAST COLUMBIA 10,206 -61%
MUSIC OF SMASH
29 38 TRAIN COLUMBIA 9,906 -8%
CALIFORNIA 37
34 39 LEE BRICE CURB 9,781 -2%
HARD 2 LOVE
28 40 BONNIE RAITT REDWING 9,651 -12%
SLIPSTREAM
-- 41 HUNGER GAMES: SONGS FROM DISTRIC UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 9,442 --
SOUNDTRACK
30 42 DRAKE YM/CM/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 9,356 -12%
TAKE CARE
33 43 ADELE XL/COLUMBIA 9,346 -7%
19
35 44 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 8,462 -14%
EL CAMINO
40 45 RASCAL FLATTS BIG MACHINE 8,421 -9%
CHANGED
43 46 TANK ATLANTIC 8,240 -4%
THIS IS HOW I FEEL
-- 47 MUMFORD & SONS GLASSNOTE 8,139 --
SIGH NO MORE
44 48 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 41 CAPITOL/EMI 8,084 -6%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
19 49 WILLIE NELSON LEGACY 8,079 -50%
HEROES
50 50 WHITNEY HOUSTON RCA 7,780 +1%
WHITNEY - THE GREATEST HITS

by **Play** » Tue May 29, 2012 8:21 pm

fearlesswift13 wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:
nickf1 wrote:And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100
What's so special about it?
Jason Aldean's My Kinda Party is still in the top 30 18 months after the release - that is worth a WOW .
and Pink Floyd still charts from time to time and is over 800 weeks on the billboard 200 now that indeed deserves several WOWs

Yes all you talk about is wow worthy...

Though I have to say it was a little rude to interrupt Nickf1 and claim why is this one special when someone has done this, that bla bla..

by **phoenix83** » Tue May 29, 2012 8:26 pm

fearlesswift13 wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:
nickf1 wrote:And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100
What's so special about it?
Jason Aldean's My Kinda Party is still in the top 30 18 months after the release - that is worth a WOW .
and Pink Floyd still charts from time to time and is over 800 weeks on the billboard 200 now that indeed deserves several WOWs

Seriously, DSOTM is incredible. It literally *never* stops selling, especially in the US.

by **tada** » Tue May 29, 2012 8:26 pm

damn! this week Garbage's album saw physical release!
with total of almost 40k with digital exclusive sales from iTunes last week.....they could have easily scored Top 5 album either this or last week

Last FM <3 · by **nickf1** » Tue May 29, 2012 8:41 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
nickf1 wrote:And WOW at Foster The People 1 year in the chart with Torches and still selling around top 100
What's so special about it?
Jason Aldean's My Kinda Party is still in the top 30 18 months after the release - that is worth a WOW .

No idea who is that Jason, I have just put my feelings about Foster's album (which is one of the best albums ever recorded IMO) and i'm so glad that they are still selling after one year being in the chart and with only 1 hit single.

------

#23 for Kris so so sad, hopefully that soundscan numbers are a bit higher :cry:

So underrated!