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Postby Tiger » Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:30 pm

Made one for Jewel so why not Tori? :D

Extremely talented and insane Singer/Songwriter. For those who don't know her - you must check herout.

For those who do - thoughts?
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Postby CrazyCrazy » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:04 pm

Amazing! She is another one of my favourites, when I listen to her she brings me deeply into her songs, so immersive and her voice is so so incredible! Who couldn't love her? :-?

I can't decide what my favourite album is from, they all have something special!
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Postby mattsky » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:16 pm

She's one of the most talented singers-songwriters EVER. I love her albums. A L L of them!
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Postby Tiger » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:34 pm

Really... all? Even the last one?
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Postby mattsky » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:41 pm

Tiger wrote:Really... all? Even the last one?
U mean the great Christmas album? Of course I like it!

My favorites:
1. Scarlet's Walk
2. Boys For Pele
3. Little Earthquakes
4. From the choirgirl hotel
5. Under the pink
7. American Doll Pose
8. Abnormally Attracted to Sin



I don't really like The Beekeeper
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Postby Benjamin » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:42 pm

I was with my friends last night at a houseparty and we were watching VH1 Classics when suddenly 'Professional Widow' came on. What a fantastic song and video!

I have much love for Tori. It's a crime shame she's not as mainstream anymore. Or, better said that she's not so out there anymore. She seems to be forgotten. It's her own fault though, as she barely releases singles and videos anymore. Or does promo. It's a shame.

My favorite albums are 'From The Choirgirl Hotel' and 'Scarlet's Walk'. Two album in her discography that I'd describe as 'chocolate' and 'vanilla'. While FTCH is dark, edgy and raw, SW is bright, mellow and happy. I love them.
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Postby mattsky » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:45 pm

IMO SW is mellow but not happy :) For me it's melancholic and sad.
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Postby Benjamin » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:48 pm

mattsky wrote:IMO SW is mellow but not happy :) For me it's melancholic and sad.
I agree the lyrics are far from happy on most songs lol. Maybe I should've sais 'calm' instead of 'happy'. Calm and relaxing.
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Postby mattsky » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:13 pm

BanZai wrote:
mattsky wrote:IMO SW is mellow but not happy :) For me it's melancholic and sad.
I agree the lyrics are far from happy on most songs lol. Maybe I should've sais 'calm' instead of 'happy'. Calm and relaxing.
Calm and relaxing?
Now I agree :)
It's such an amazing album, really, so touching!
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Postby Tiger » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:42 pm

Scarlet's Walk is her best album by far. I am surprised and pleased that that's agreed on :o
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Postby Benjamin » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:21 pm

I've been playing Tori's music all day today. This woman is a lyrical genius. Every song has a story, has emotion. Most of the time I don't have a clue what she's singing about. Like her lyrics are little riddles. Sometimes they're so vague and abstract. She should write a book, seriously. A novel. Her imagination seems endless.

I can't believe how underrated she is.
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Postby Vindrag » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:12 pm

I know every song inside out, Tori is one of my top 3 artists! We have experienced alot together, a big inspiration!

Actually, yes her lyrics are challening, but I dont think she wants them to have direct message or purpose, allowing the listener to create it's own picture. She is teaching us how to think creativetly :P
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Postby Merci » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:15 pm

I only have "From the Choirgirl Hotel", her other albums sounded boring to me from the snippets, I might cherry-pick some of the songs though
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Postby Tiger » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:02 pm

www.hereinmyhead.com has Tori quotes on every song she's written... you can really get what she wants to say on all of them and it adds more depth
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Postby Benjamin » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:05 pm

THANKS! :D
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Postby Benjamin » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:18 pm

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A SORTA FAIRYTALE

A SORTA FAIRYTALE finds Scarlet back in LA with a man she has convinced herself is her life's soul mate. "They take the big trip in the classic car up the Pacific Coast highway and across the desert. But as they go on, the masks drop away and they discover the fantasy they have of each other isn't who they really are." They end up back where they started and Scarlet leaves. "They did care. But somehow they lost each other. Which is why it's only A Sorta Fairytale..."

-- Scarlet's Walk bio
That's what Tori had to say about the meaning of 'A Sorta Fairytale'.

I find her explanation of the lyrics very interesting. 'ASF' is my favorite Tori Amos song, it really touches me. I never really 'understood' the lyrics, because (as said before) she doesn't want her songs to have a direct message or purpose.

She says the song is about a couple that takes a trip accross the desert (that's pretty specific btw - it's a story), and during the trip they start to realize they've been living in this kind of fantasy. Very interesting, because I had a total different story in my head. I think more mirrored to my own situation/story.

I thought the song was about two lovers who were seperated from each other, because the relationship didn't work out. Mainly because the other person wasn't ready to handle it. It gave me the feeling that the couple had tried, very hard, but that they couldn't fix it, although they both know it was true love.

Tori sings: 'I rode along side 'till you lost me there in the open road. I rode alongside 'till the honey spread itself so thin for me to break your bread'. To me that felt like she stood by her man for such a long time, that she went to all the craziness, but that there came a point where it was all just too much.

"And I feel so sad, like a good book I can't put this day back". Like she can't forget about him, but that she know there's nothing much she can do, because it's not fixed.

"and i was talking to you, and i knew then it would be a life long thing
but i didn't know that we, we could break a silver lining"
. - As if she knew from day one they were meant to be together and that she never expected to end up like this. Seperated. That she didn't expect, eventhough the weird and complicated circumstances, that they wouldn't make it.

It's like she knows she can't change the situation, but still knows she's missing the love of her life. That she maybe wants to burn the bridges, but simply can't do that, because they've been connected to each other from day one. That she's going on with her life, and lives a happy one, but still knows it's kind of surreal without the other person in it. Like a sorta fairytale, but not really.

Like I said before, maybe I mirror my own situation to the lyrics, because I've been in a situation as desribed above for a very long time. Those lyrics make just perfect sense for me. That's why I find this song so special. The way it describes everything is so subtle, abstract and not so cliché. Listening to this song can make me both very happy or very sad. It's magical.
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Postby Cactuar » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:09 pm

One of the best artists around! 8-)

I thought she sort of went downhill on AATS, but Midwinter Grace was a good record.

Has anyone noticed she lost her edge though? Her material no longer has that raw and mysterious edge that was so strong on her first five albums. It really set her apart back then, she always had that sinister something.
"sometimes it seems to me like all the vocal doors in your life must stay locked because you never seem to have the right key"
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Postby Tiger » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:43 pm

Cactuar wrote:One of the best artists around! 8-)

I thought she sort of went downhill on AATS, but Midwinter Grace was a good record.

Has anyone noticed she lost her edge though? Her material no longer has that raw and mysterious edge that was so strong on her first five albums. It really set her apart back then, she always had that sinister something.
Exactly!! She makes good Singer/Songwriter songs but nothing cutting edge.
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Postby AutomaticBR » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:48 pm

Tiger, I think you're my favorite user here right now :lol: Jewel and Tori are easily among my all-time Top 5 favorite female artists! Actually, Tori might very well be considered the brightest female singer/songwriter for me :D

like mattsky, I also love all her albums, even the christmas one :lol: though I could never feel all the love for SW, but I do think "A Sorta Fairytale" it's one of her best songs, guess I just need to hear that one more frequently cuz I never really paid attention to that album. my favorite ones are LE, UTP and ADP. Cannot list my favorite songs, sorry, it would take too much time =P
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Postby Vindrag » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:38 pm

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So, what do you guys think about this album?
I've been listening to it 3 times with a friend I'm visiting over the weekend. And I get the feeling that I have not given it an honest proper chance.

I dont have the time now to write about what I've discovered with this album, will do that later (and will also answer to the allegation about Tori Amos not being cutting edge, which I definietly dont agree with). All I can say for now is that The Beekeeper is a genuine Amos record.

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Postby jio » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:51 pm

"Under The Pink" is one of the greatest albums of all time for me. I bought it way back while "Past The Mission" was charting and it was the album that introduced me to Tori. I bought "Little Earthquakes" (another great one although not as good as UTP) a month later. "Crucify" is one of the best songs of all time. The only other album of hers I own is "Under The Choirgirl Hotel" which I found underwhelming in comparison to the other two (although there are several gems in that one too). I still listen to her music online but I guess no album of hers moved me in the way those 2 first albums did and so I haven't actually bought anything else by her. Still though one of the greatest artists of the last 2 decades IMO
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Postby CrazyCrazy » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:34 pm

Vindrag wrote:Image

So, what do you guys think about this album?
I've been listening to it 3 times with a friend I'm visiting over the weekend. And I get the feeling that I have not given it an honest proper chance.

I dont have the time now to write about what I've discovered with this album, will do that later (and will also answer to the allegation about Tori Amos not being cutting edge, which I definietly dont agree with). All I can say for now is that The Beekeeper is a genuine Amos record.

:D
It's amongst my faves, it's just so kooky! 8-)
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Postby Cactuar » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:49 am

I love The Beekeeper, it's a bit too syrupy in parts (Ribbons Undone, Ireland) but overall I really like the direction she went. :) It's the most solid of all her long albums.

The three singles, the title track, Parasol, The Power of Orange Knickers, Toast, Original Sinsuality are my favourites!

I see it as her last great album, as the ones following it although containing some very good pop songs were no longer very Tori. :(
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Postby shanicefan » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:33 am

Tori is my fave solo artist. "Under the pink" is my fave album of all time. I own all her albums except "Strange little girl" (I don't like it) and love them all. My least fave album is probably AATS although it has some great tracks and reminds me of "The choirgirl hotel" in some parts. It has the same dark feel. I just can't listen to it from start to end.
Toris songs leave much to ones own imagination and that's why I love them. I prefer her piano-based songs like the ones on her first three albums. She later went back to that sound with SW and TB.

BTW, I thought TB doesn't deserve all the critic it got amongst her fanbase. It's a warmer and happier record in some way and features some of Toris best vocals. I still listen to it very often.

My fave Tori songs are (no order):

Winter
Precious things
Crucify
Silent all the years
Pretty good year
Past the mission
Cornflake girl
Icycle
Clouds on my tongue
Honey
Father Lucifer
Marianne
Hey Jupiter
Way down
Spark
Black dove (January)
Lust
Bliss
Mary
I can't see New York
Gold dust
A sorta fairytale
Clouds
Parasol
The power of orange knickers
Cars and guitars
Witness
Toast
Bouncing off clouds
Secret spell
Code red
Smokey Joe
Curtain call
Give
And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places

(Kate Bush - Running up that hill)
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Postby mattsky » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:38 am

Beekeeper, ADP and AATS are simply too long IMO
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