Adele :: The "21" Era

[Serby]

I want fair battle for that #1. The re-release is completely unnecessary.

Yeah. I mean, 21 is already huge enough. And as somebody already mentioned, there will be eternal battle about if sales are valid or not.

me too! excluding eating, paying bills and rent

Exactly! I think I should move to UK

Yeah, same here... though, my parents would have to work, not me

[Serby]

I don`t understand how can after 3 massive radio singles, Rumour Has It to only surpass the 100M mark...

IMO it because RHI is nowhere as good as RITD and SLY (not that far of how good was SFTTR). And as you said, it's 4th single, so it's chances to smash are smaller.

[LonelyDreamer]

It's okay everybody else releases expanded, deluxe and special editions, so why can't Adele? Some people are acting ridiculous here.

[NorfolkScot]

^^^^^

Not ridiculous at all, it's clear you don't know what Adele said about the re-release of 19.

[LonelyDreamer]

^^^^^

Not ridiculous at all, it's clear you don't know what Adele said about the re-release of 19.

Well, what did she say?

As a consumer, I'd love to have a re-release of "21", specially because my favourite song ('Hiding My Heart') isn't in the standart Brazilian edition tracklist.

I think she deserves all this success, and this re-release will boost her sales again, which is a very good thing for her.

[scootermcgee27]

It's okay everybody else releases expanded, deluxe and special editions, so why can't Adele? Some people are acting ridiculous here.

Who said we're here for these other artists or that we do support their re-releases? I'm a Katy Perry fan, but I was disappointed that Teenage Dream was re-released. I'm a Florence + The Machine fan, but I hate that Ceremonials was released with a really expensive deluxe version. I'm an Adele fan, and I feel the same about 21 being re-released. If it's an artist I don't care about, then I probably won't care if they have a re-release, but I do get annoyed that great albums get somewhat tarnished by tacking on inferior tracks just to boost sales. It messes with the integrity of the album as an art form and it rips off fans who have already purchased the original album. It also muddies the waters for us chart fanatics who are interested in sales records and chart achievements. I'm sorry if you' think that's a ridiculous view to have, but I stand firmly by it.

[LonelyDreamer]

"It messes with the integrity of the album as an art form"

The new edition won't replace the original one, both editions will still be available. Just keep the first one.

[NorfolkScot]

^^^^^

Not ridiculous at all, it's clear you don't know what Adele said about the re-release of 19.

Well, what did she say?

As a consumer, I'd love to have a re-release of "21", specially because my favourite song ('Hiding My Heart') isn't in the standart Brazilian edition tracklist.

I think she deserves all this success, and this re-release will boost her sales again, which is a very good thing for her.

She did not know XL was going to re-release 19, she said it's ripping of fans when they have the CD.

It's what Sony have been doing with MJ, ripping of fans.

[LonelyDreamer]

I mean, it's kind of a 'ripping of', I absolutely agree with you, because I hate when I already own an album and then a new edition is released - that's how I feel.

But, we actually don't 'lose' anything: we can get some new tracks or versions, or just ignore them.

Sony sucks - for real! -, but I rather get anything new from MJ (a demo, an unfinished track) over nothing. It's so sad, but, as a fan, it's always nice to get something new from our favourite artists.

[Vibor]

I am one of those absolutely against re-releases. Especially when it has not been even 24 hours since I bought my copy of "21".
I do believe an album is a piece of work itself. It is conceived as a whole, and when a few songs are not included in the first edition of an album, there is always a good reason behind. Otherwise, those songs would be included in the standard edition.
Furthermore, I consider it offensive for all those who bought an album and a few months later, have to pay for the same songs if they want to have 3 or 4 four new songs which might not be available unless purchased together the old album.

With regard to "Rumour Has It" reaching the top 10 in the USA, I still believe there is a video which is going to be released at some point next month. That would cause a great impact on sales. If there is no video, I doubt "Rumour Has It" could ever reach the top 10.

[arab]

Hmmm...as for me, it's quite ok to re-release an album with some extra (unavailable) tracks because of 10th/20th/25th anniversary. But releasing an album for the 2nd time after 6 months/1 year/2 years is ripping of fans. That's why I don't want XL to re-release 21

[LonelyDreamer]

They already had several extra songs by the time of its first release. So, XL should have released both standart and deluxe editions at once, back in 2011.

[Timmy94]

I understand if Rumour Has It's sales aren't huge because so many people already own the track on the album, but this shouldn't affect the airplay position... People who already own the album, might want to hear it on the radio still and the people who don't own 21 might wanna discover Rumour Has It this way. Especially as Rumour Has It is definately better than Set Fire To The Rain .

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No re-release for 21 please. I bought 21 during last year's Easter and if they did a re-release, it gives me and other people the message "Don't buy an album 2 years or less after the release, labels wanna put out some more versions and if you're clever, you wait til everything's done and pick the one which includes it all". Well, that would actually prevent too frontloaded sales and would speak for longevity .
But I guess many people would be fed up, too, and would stop buying albums because they don't wanna be kidded no more.

Deluxe editions for fans which are directly released along with the standard edition and EPs are OK though...

[phoenix83]

"It messes with the integrity of the album as an art form"

The new edition won't replace the original one, both editions will still be available. Just keep the first one.

One could be ultra-traditionalist and say that the original album is, and will always be, a standalone piece of work, and should forever stand in its own right as a work of art. Certainly you couldn't imagine albums like Pet Sounds, Sgt Pepper, Tapestry, Dark Side Of The Moon etc. being re-released a year later with bonus tracks. That would be insulting to the original ideal of the album as a complete, untouchable body of work.

Having said that I recognise we live in a different era now and these things sadly tend to be inevitable. I still think 21 (the original 11 tracks) will go down as a classic of this era and I'd prefer it not to be re-released with additional tracks. At the very worst it will be the 4th bestselling album of all time in the UK (and 2nd bestselling studio album behind Sgt Pepper), a phenomenal achievement by anyone's standards. If XL is so desperate to break all records by doing a tacky re-release, that's up to them and I appreciate some fans may be delighted in being able to buy new Adele tracks so will be glad to see a 'new' album.

Just the way things are I guess.

[Spoffle]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

[NorfolkScot]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

I have said quit a few times that she won't be there.

[Spoffle]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

I have said quit a few times that she won't be there.

Oh, I agree - it's entirely consistent with what she's said before, and if she were going, it would have been mentioned by now.

[NorfolkScot]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

I have said quit a few times that she won't be there.

Oh, I agree - it's entirely consistent with what she's said before, and if she were going, it would have been mentioned by now.

I don't think she will sing live now until she does the promo for the single or the Olympics.

[phoenix83]

Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

[Spoffle]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

I have said quit a few times that she won't be there.

Oh, I agree - it's entirely consistent with what she's said before, and if she were going, it would have been mentioned by now.

I don't think she will sing live now until she does the promo for the single or the Olympics.

And we don't even know whether her voice is fully recovered yet. Two live performances lasting a total of less than 10 minutes since the start of the year - you have to wonder. I'm sure she'll be mindful of John Mayer's situation - he tried to come back pretty quick from the same operation and ended up having to have further surgery.

[Spoffle]

Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

It wouldn't have been so bad if she was just going to win one award - but I can see how having to make a series of acceptance speeches could overwhelm anyone! Unless she's just being polite and that excuse is code for "can't be bothered to fly to Las Vegas"! Either way it is going to attract some attention.

[ronson]

From Q Magazine (July 2011)

No Deluxe Album Versions (Anymore)

"I **** hate that shit, **** desperadoes. I was **** furious when we did it on 19, I said no and they did it anyway. B-Sides don't make a record because they're shit, d'youknowwhatthatmean? just muggin' off your fans! I've bought delixe ones and I'm 'These songs are shit!' and it makes you not love 'em as much, 'You're muggin' me off!' "

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[arab]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

Not happy, but not surprised We have a special interview in June at least

[scootermcgee27]

From Q Magazine (July 2011)

No Deluxe Album Versions (Anymore)

"I **** hate that shit, **** desperadoes. I was **** furious when we did it on 19, I said no and they did it anyway. B-Sides don't make a record because they're shit, d'youknowwhatthatmean? just muggin' off your fans! I've bought delixe ones and I'm 'These songs are shit!' and it makes you not love 'em as much, 'You're muggin' me off!' "

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O1LgMjY7sqo/TminLMOMi_I/AAAAAAAAD8I/KHAGv5FPagI/s1600/DC-260-BA63128693.jpg

As I've already stated, I absolutely agree with Adele. I'm glad she gets it. I do realise that for me I don't lose anything. I can still just listen to the original version. But for everyone who buys the album after the re-release, they get a piece of work that is inferior to the original and probably more expensive as well. And Adele is right - B-sides don't make albums for a reason.

[shadesofblack]

Here's a quote from the twitter of a Las Vegas journalist (http://twitter.com/#!/Robin_Leach):

Adele and Rihanna won't be at Billboard awards- Adele literally in hiding 'overwhelmed' by rise to sudden fame.

Make of that what you will.

Not happy, but not surprised We have a special interview in June at least

Such utter bullsh!t! Robin Leach is a joke over here. "Overwhelmed by success"? After that Grammy performance? That's all you got?! It would be closer to the truth to say " Adele says the f*ing desert at the end of May sounds like a f*ing nightmare." That I'd believe!