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Postby adriano » Fri May 18, 2012 4:32 pm

look what few minutes ago william orbit wrote on his fb page:

I appreciate your analysis of the album release 'strategy' @Madonna Express Yourself. I wasn't involved in its formulation in any way myself. All I will say is that certain thoughts about it that I see expressed online by committed fans such as yourself, were blindingly obvious to me from the very get go, well before the release. But I'm no Jimmy Iovine, with the ability to advocate my convictions forcefully, and as co-producer, co-writer etc am aware that it is not in my 'job spec'.


But you won't see me exactly jumping up and down with delight over the way that things have panned out. We were very pushed for time, due to a rather interesting and shall we just say, 'traditional' method of recording that the esteemed engineer Demo was partial to, and various pressing commitments that took up the artists limited time, such as perfume ranges and teen fashion contests and other such endeavours which are beyond my own limited understanding of pop star agendas.


The recording sessions for the six songs I did were hugely enjoyable for all of us. M was on form and better than ever with her singing and writing and musicality, and was having a great time. We had songs lined up that were breathtaking. You'll hear some of them on Chris Brown's new album, and they are the best ones, Kreayshawn's (INCREDIBLE) new album, my own recently completed 'Strange Cargo' album. And some other surprising places. SNAPPED up by the artists concerned. Most of them, I believe, destined to become classics (let me know in a couple months wether you concur with that)


?'The team I assembled in NY for MDNA were, and are as good as it gets now. Writers and musicians and performers I picked because they take my breath away with their talent. And are totally of-the-moment in everything good that is going on in contemporary music at the moment. And usually hard to book because they are so in demand. And all of us fully committed to putting ourselves through extraordinary efforts to make MDNA the greatest album of the year.'


Over the years it's become obvious to me that along with Madonna being the greatest pop artist of ALL time, her fan base are also the most ardent, cohesive, discerning and loyal fan base of any artist. Not saying that to blow smoke, is quite obviously true. Big respect. And long life to us all. And as you look at things in a 'long term' way (my way also) you always call it like you see it. And I'm with you on that too. Be honest and true, speak your heart and mind, and let the dust fall where it will.


So basically, i'd lie down in the mud if she didn't want to get her shoes messed up (well, figuratively speaking, neither of us does a lot of Glastonbury mud tramping) it's hard to be an effective knight when your hands are bound. I will submit to wisdoms that are possibly beyond my comprehension and that will play out to glory in the fullness of time. And get back to my own fervent canvas, and speak no more of the matter.


Oh, and if some bright spark at marketing central suggested a Hilary Clinton approach, ie, press 'restart' and get back in the studio for a couple weeks and do what they nowadays call a 're-pack', I'd certainly put my hand up for that, whatever else I had going on. But realistically, there is only one person that could make that happen. And with the best songs in the world, and the best mixing, best ProToolsing, best team, best lyrics, best bananas, after this little screed I don't suppose I should while away my hours staring at the phone! :) But i feel better for saying all that. Debt free and not beholden. The thing about having little appetite for riches and fame, and no great tower of expectations, you haven't got anything to be taken away. And having always been an outsider, outside in the cold, It's always clear which way the wind is blowing. I was never inside any bubble long enough to forget how the wind blows, and changes, and ebbs and gusts, and dies away completely. As before a storm. And that a beautiful bubble might yield to even a the breeze from a humble fan


the confirmation that she's unable to think alone with her brain but that she's plagiarized by guy
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what a disappointment
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Postby TiagoRodrigues » Fri May 18, 2012 6:06 pm

Basically...this was just a rushed album done in time for a tour this year...and the best songs are going to Chris Brown! LOL what a joke! seriously! :o :o
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Postby Eamon » Fri May 18, 2012 6:10 pm

Well for a rushed album, it's pretty great and I'm still enjoying it!
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Postby GetBack » Fri May 18, 2012 6:23 pm

mimifan09 wrote:Well for a rushed album, it's pretty great and I'm still enjoying it!
8-) 8-) 8-)

Why did they rush this? It's not like no one will watch Madonna if she toured next year or the year after next! :roll: :-?
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Postby HBIC » Fri May 18, 2012 6:37 pm

He's working with Kreayshawn though? :lol:
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Postby atbw13 » Fri May 18, 2012 6:49 pm

adriano wrote:the confirmation that she's unable to think alone with her brain but that she's plagiarized by guy
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what a disappointment
Where exactly did you take that from ?
Madonna didn´t get where she is now because she can´t think by herself :roll:
I´m sure she believes she is surrounded by the best professionals and listen to their advices and believes them until she´s proved wrong about them .And in doing so, she´s right since it´s impossible to do everything by your own.
Things started to go a little "off - schedule" because of "W.E." . She said herself that the movie took her a lot longer to finish than she thought it would at first.
And I´m pretty sure that she HAD to go on tour this year because of her contract with Live Nation. And knowing her the way we all do she would never go on tour without a new album out.
That´s when they had to rush... the movie was not yet finished but she had to start working on the album because otherwise there would be no time to release it and rehearse for the fourthcoming tour...And that´s it !
Regarding the promotion, I don´t know in who to believe. I don´t know if Guy "convinced" her to try this unconvetional kind of promotion or they did it that way because it would be impossible for her to do both: promote MDNA properly and rehearse the way the needs/likes for the tour . I´m almost definitely sure it was the second option. They came up with this whole "new ways of promotion avoiding overexposure" kind of thing , and carried on whith the tour.
Anyway the things are what they are!
Madonna had this artistic desire to develop/direct an ambitious epic movie and she paid the price.I´m sure we have no idea about what she´s been through this past 2 years(there must ´ve been an out of this world pressure).
What matters is that , so far , she and her team managed to honour all the commitments - W.E, MDNA, Superbowl, Line of Clothes, Perfume, and biggeest one :the upcoming tour.
All in all MDNA is a very good album and unfortunetely it lacked on promotion and had the weakest songs released as singles .In spite of this all it´s still charting almost everywhere. Let´s hope the tour does something for it and then wait for the next chapter :wink:
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Postby sambo9 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:10 pm

If the Wiliam Orbit stuff was rushed, then I'm pretty impressed, because nearly all of the stuff he was involved in (especially Masterpiece and Love Spent) still turned out great. Same with Benassi. It's the Solveig stuff that really brings the album down: Give Me All Your Luvin', B-Day Song, Turn Up The Radio, Superstar etc.
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Postby Eamon » Fri May 18, 2012 7:15 pm

sambo9 wrote:If the Wiliam Orbit stuff was rushed, then I'm pretty impressed, because nearly all of the stuff he was involved in (especially Masterpiece and Love Spent) still turned out great. Same with Benassi. It's the Solveig stuff that really brings the album down: Give Me All Your Luvin', B-Day Song, Turn Up The Radio, Superstar etc.
Completely agree!
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Postby denise » Fri May 18, 2012 7:19 pm

sambo9 wrote:If the Wiliam Orbit stuff was rushed, then I'm pretty impressed, because nearly all of the stuff he was involved in (especially Masterpiece and Love Spent) still turned out great. Same with Benassi. It's the Solveig stuff that really brings the album down: Give Me All Your Luvin', B-Day Song, Turn Up The Radio, Superstar etc.
I agree partly...but damn Turn Up The Radio is a gorgeous track..

and I love Superstar
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Postby TiagoRodrigues » Fri May 18, 2012 7:44 pm

sambo9 wrote:If the Wiliam Orbit stuff was rushed, then I'm pretty impressed, because nearly all of the stuff he was involved in (especially Masterpiece and Love Spent) still turned out great. Same with Benassi. It's the Solveig stuff that really brings the album down: Give Me All Your Luvin', B-Day Song, Turn Up The Radio, Superstar etc.
He could've done better...his songs were great...but not breathtaking on the level of what he did on Ray Of Light...

But i agree...the album is great! But if they could've done better, why not wait a couple more months before touring? :-?
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Postby denise » Fri May 18, 2012 10:15 pm

from DrownedMadonna:

As we already reported a long time ago, Madonna's third single from MDNA is going to be Turn Up The Radio. Therefore, ignore the latest rumours!!

DrownedMadonna has now learned that Madonna wants to film a proper video for Turn Up The Radio, as Madonnarama also reported a few minutes ago. We heard that Madonna has only 3 to 4 hours to film the video, given her busy schedule, before the tour starts on May 31 in Tel Aviv.

Apparently, Madonna is having trouble finding a director that can film the video in just 3 to 4 hours. Madonna is so busy that she is even willing to shoot the video on opening day of the tour before the show begins.


:o This is embarassing to say the least and says a lot on how the album has been and is currently ignored: I'm happy in a way it is flopping, at least they will learn the lesson :-?
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Postby atbw13 » Fri May 18, 2012 10:17 pm

^I don´t even know what to make out of this... for real ...
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Postby GetBack » Sat May 19, 2012 3:14 am

Expect a flag version video for TUTR... :roll:

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Postby IceAngel » Sat May 19, 2012 3:35 am

denise wrote:Apparently, Madonna is having trouble finding a director that can film the video in just 3 to 4 hours. Madonna is so busy that she is even willing to shoot the video on opening day of the tour before the show begins.[/i]

No wonder she cannot find a director... No respectable, professional director would accept to shoot a music video in less than 4 hours.

They might as well say: "Look, we clearly don't give a damn about this project. Is anyone willing to shoot a crap video in less than 4 hours?"

I can't believe they are taking this project so lightly on the music side.
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Postby snwbrder757 » Sat May 19, 2012 4:22 am

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd prefer a cheap proper video, rather than a live video any day.. :roll: People get upset when she releases a live video, but then she attempts to release a proper video for a song, and people bitch.. I guess she can do nothing right. I'm not happy with the way this era has gone so far, but at least she wants to film a video!
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Postby ECE » Sat May 19, 2012 5:55 am

Going through the first 3 pages of this thread made me lmfao :lol: All the rumors and speculations about the title :lol: This one especially:

Beautyisbeauty wrote:I like the title but I hope it has nothing to do with biology, cells or something like that. I had enough science in pop music a few years ago when Mariah tried to explain E=MC2.
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Postby IceAngel » Sat May 19, 2012 6:41 am

ECE wrote:Going through the first 3 pages of this thread made me lmfao :lol: All the rumors and speculations about the title :lol: This one especially:

Beautyisbeauty wrote:I like the title but I hope it has nothing to do with biology, cells or something like that. I had enough science in pop music a few years ago when Mariah tried to explain E=MC2.
:lol:
LOL genius!!!

snwbrder757 wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'd prefer a cheap proper video, rather than a live video any day.. :roll: People get upset when she releases a live video, but then she attempts to release a proper video for a song, and people bitch.. I guess she can do nothing right. I'm not happy with the way this era has gone so far, but at least she wants to film a video!
I would rather have a cheap proper video than a live video too, however they could have shot a proper non-cheap video over two days and deliver a better quality product to the fans...but oh well :D :D
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Postby krikshels » Sat May 19, 2012 10:08 am

I totally prefer her live videos over the regular ones
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Postby denise » Sat May 19, 2012 10:11 am

krikshels wrote:I totally prefer her live videos over the regular ones
Do you mean you'd prefer a "Causing a Commtion" MV over "Bad Girl" or Bedtime Story"?
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Postby atbw13 » Sat May 19, 2012 12:52 pm

denise wrote:
krikshels wrote:I totally prefer her live videos over the regular ones
Do you mean you'd prefer a "Causing a Commtion" MV over "Bad Girl" or Bedtime Story"?
:roll: Oh God!
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Postby Benjamin » Sat May 19, 2012 12:57 pm

I'm confused now. DrownedMadonna.com claims Madonna wants to shoot a video for 'Turn Up The Radio' - while 'Love Spent' was released to Dutch radio this week.
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Postby atbw13 » Sat May 19, 2012 1:01 pm

BanZai wrote:I'm confused now. DrownedMadonna.com claims Madonna wants to shoot a video for 'Turn Up The Radio' - while 'Love Spent' was released to Dutch radio this week.
This just give us a portrait of this era as a whole: MESS!
The same happened in Uk: while GGW was being released as a single all over the world, Radio 2 added "Masterpiece" to their playlist.
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Postby spiritboy » Sat May 19, 2012 2:03 pm

Post-It to Madonna: If you won't care about your album, don't bother to release one :x

She has so many hits to choose from, it will be enough for at least 3 tours if she won't release anything anymore.
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Postby atbw13 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:19 pm

spiritboy wrote:Post-It to Madonna: If you won't care about your album, don't bother to release one :x

She has so many hits to choose from, it will be enough for at least 3 tours if she won't release anything anymore.
I can´t say that to her because I´m actually glad she released MDNA :lol:
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Postby krikshels » Sat May 19, 2012 2:31 pm

denise wrote:
krikshels wrote:I totally prefer her live videos over the regular ones
Do you mean you'd prefer a "Causing a Commtion" MV over "Bad Girl" or Bedtime Story"?
I prefer Confessions tour over all COADF videos - Hung Up, Jump, Get together

I prefer S&S tour over all hard candy videos - so yeah I think I will prefer these live videos over the ones she makes in those 2 days
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