American Idol 2012

by **GetBack** » Sat May 19, 2012 3:32 pm

The moral lesson here is that there are performances that you have to learn how to soften your tone. Jessica and Phillip did just that, there were performances that they were on full blast with their ranges and all, and then there were times when they sang in a relaxing, soothing and calming manner that connected well with the viewers in the most intimate sense. In Joshua's case, all of his performances were intense, he doesn't shift gear that much, it's always about the big vocal showcase every time, whether he sings an uptempo or ballad. I think that was his downfall. I'm surprised that I share the same sentiment as Jimmy Iovine (in commenting on Joshua). :oops:

by **emilhot** » Sat May 19, 2012 6:23 pm

I think the judges have some responsibility for that Phillip is going to win, because they have praised him so much. They have praised so much from him, even when it has been average like we saw it with Scotty last year. I think Jimmy has commented much better than the judges... Jimmy himself said that Joshua should be in anyone's final, and i'm sure, he didn't think, it was the right one, who went home, which i agree with, because i think he is on a whole other level than Phillip...

by **BLover** » Sat May 19, 2012 7:48 pm

GetBack wrote:The moral lesson here is that there are performances that you have to learn how to soften your tone. Jessica and Phillip did just that, there were performances that they were on full blast with their ranges and all, and then there were times when they sang in a relaxing, soothing and calming manner that connected well with the viewers in the most intimate sense. In Joshua's case, all of his performances were intense, he doesn't shift gear that much, it's always about the big vocal showcase every time, whether he sings an uptempo or ballad. I think that was his downfall. I'm surprised that I share the same sentiment as Jimmy Iovine (in commenting on Joshua).

Please, we all know why he left. :roll:

Had Philip had a different skin tone, he wouldn't be in the competition anymore.

by **pcdm3** » Sat May 19, 2012 8:34 pm

BLover wrote:Please, we all know why he left.
Had Philip had a different skin tone, he wouldn't be in the competition anymore.

I assume you're black.

Why do most of black people are always so defensive and easily offended? :-?

I mean I get there's a lot of racism in the world and I'm a huge supporter of the anti-intolerance movement but c'mon!

With their constant and innecesary complaints like the one you just said (because you're not even sure about that) you make racism a much bigger issue than racist people.

by **emilhot** » Sat May 19, 2012 10:34 pm

Well i'm a white guy, and i think that BLover is kinda right. Some of these white kids (For example Phillip & Scotty) with less than half the talent of the Urban-influenced singers do better on American Idol than some of the great Urban-influenced singers (For example Joshua, Jessica & Jennifer Hudson). Though i think the biggest problems for singers like Joshua is that a huge amount of the AI viewers seems to be prefering Country, Pop & Rock music, and it doesn't help that Urban music is struggling on the mainstream charts aswell...

by **pcdm3** » Sat May 19, 2012 10:39 pm

emilhot wrote:Well i'm a white guy, and i think that BLover is kinda right. Some of these white kids (For example Phillip & Scotty) with less than half the talent of the Urban-influenced singers do better on American Idol than some of the great Urban-influenced singers (For example Joshua, Jessica & Jennifer Hudson). Though i think the biggest problems for singers like Joshua is that a huge amount of the AI viewers seems to be prefering Country, Pop & Rock music, and it doesn't help that Urban music is struggling on the mainstream charts aswell...

So 'American Idol' audience is racist towards black contestants and even if they're far more talented the audience will always choose the white ones? O.o

by **Thriller** » Sun May 20, 2012 12:17 am

The race argument is odd to me because Idol has had 3 out of 10 black winners, not a bad ratio. I don't see it being down to that. I think I'd side with those talking about his performance style, it was very dramatic and could be draining to watch and I can imagine his gospel church style not being to everybody's taste. I feel like 99% of Phillip's performances are the same and Joshua was starting to head that way a little.

by **GetBack** » Sun May 20, 2012 2:43 am

pcdm3 wrote:
BLover wrote:Please, we all know why he left.
Had Philip had a different skin tone, he wouldn't be in the competition anymore.
I assume you're black.

Why do most of black people are always so defensive and easily offended? I mean I get there's a lot of racism in the world and I'm a huge supporter of the anti-intolerance movement but c'mon!

With their constant and innecesary complaints like the one you just said (because you're not even sure about that) you make racism a much bigger issue than racist people.

This is so true! I mean, I'm Asian and I didn't want to see Heejun go, he was the first Korean to enter the finals and I was happy for them too, but I knew that he wasn't that good compared to others despite him giving his best performances before he left. The whole race/color issue here is pointless, considering there have been three people of color who have won this competition.

by **emilhot** » Sun May 20, 2012 9:17 am

pcdm3 wrote:
emilhot wrote:Well i'm a white guy, and i think that BLover is kinda right. Some of these white kids (For example Phillip & Scotty) with less than half the talent of the Urban-influenced singers do better on American Idol than some of the great Urban-influenced singers (For example Joshua, Jessica & Jennifer Hudson). Though i think the biggest problems for singers like Joshua is that a huge amount of the AI viewers seems to be prefering Country, Pop & Rock music, and it doesn't help that Urban music is struggling on the mainstream charts aswell...
So 'American Idol' audience is racist towards black contestants and even if they're far more talented the audience will always choose the white ones? O.o

I don't think the audience is racist. I just think that the Urban acts, who are mostly black have a hard time to win this show, because there are so many country, rock & pop lovers, who are watching the show.

by **Loveguru** » Sun May 20, 2012 9:22 am

I am black and I found Joshua boring well his style.

:lol:

Also the difference betwen philip and Joshua is one of them is Butt ugly and the other one is hot. WONDER who got the votes :lol:

by **BLover** » Sun May 20, 2012 4:29 pm

pcdm3 wrote:
BLover wrote:Please, we all know why he left.
Had Philip had a different skin tone, he wouldn't be in the competition anymore.
I assume you're black.

Why do most of black people are always so defensive and easily offended? I mean I get there's a lot of racism in the world and I'm a huge supporter of the anti-intolerance movement but c'mon!

With their constant and innecesary complaints like the one you just said (because you're not even sure about that) you make racism a much bigger issue than racist people.

Actually, I'm white.
And my opinion is not based on American Idol ratios.

I also think the European reality is very different from the North American one.

by **aaliyahman** » Sun May 20, 2012 11:39 pm

BLover wrote:
aaliyahman wrote:Remember when they criticised Jessica for using that growl (which I agree with because I hate it). Well she went and changed it as it is just one of the tricks she employs. Joshua kept on kept on and kept on using that same ending vein bursting screech but kept on using more and more of it.
Philip always sounds the same to me and nothing has been said about that.

And Jessica has gotten where she is thanks to her signature growls, which I love. Her last performances were dull, I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing was painfully annoying to hear imo.

Joshua's performances may sound forced to you but to me they sound emotional, passionate - the majority of times, of course.

A J&J finale would be brilliant, but this result was expectable and I also expect Phil to win.

No, Jessica used her growls sparingly and then she went too far and got called out over it (are we watching the same show). For me, she can't use it that well it comes off forced and cuts her melodic tone off. A comparison for me is Suga Mama by Beyonce, she manages to keep her tone throughout the notes. Obviously Jess will develop this.

All Phillip's performances are very samey I agree although he has that niche which is a current thing in America and he can transport near enough anything to that style of singing. I don't particularly like him either although he is very good at what he does.

Joshua was an immense talent as I have said by the strain is obvious on almost EVERY song, passionate yes, strained yes I mean no singer should have to pull blood vein bursting faces every week to display 'passion'.

by **aaliyahman** » Sun May 20, 2012 11:43 pm

Also am I the only one shocked that it wasn't a Skylar vs Phillip final!! So happy it isn't though and it should really be Joshua v Jessica.

by **Thriller** » Sun May 20, 2012 11:49 pm

I definitely didn't think Jessica would make the final especially after being bottom of the votes that week! I thought it'd be a Skylar/Phillip snoozefest. Nothing would make me happier this week than for her to beat him.

by **YesMC** » Sun May 20, 2012 11:59 pm

I knew Phillip would be in the finals! He's cute and sexy. Most of the people who votes for this kind of show are women. Joshua has a better voice and more presence but his not cute and the fact that his is gay (yes he is, anyone could tell) doesn't help him either to connect with the girls.

by **GetBack** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:35 am

After watching the finale showdown, I understood why Phillip Phillips got that far, as compared to the likes of Joshua Ledet or Elise Testone, who were the initial bets aside from Jessica Sanchez to win the title. The potential winning song he picked was indeed far superior than Jessica's song choice I must admit, and as an artist, he is already fully prepared. It also felt like a Phillip Phillips concert when he performed it, and this is coming from someone who is not really that much familiar of his genre to be honest. He may not have the big vocals like Adam Lambert, Ruben Studdard, or Clay Aiken who all made the finale in their respective seasons, but he certainly is more of an artist compared to everyone who has been in this show, and it showed during his third performance.

As for Jessica Sanchez who I've always rooted for since the Top 24, she did an amazing job with her vocals, I just wished she picked a more climactic set to be able to win by a huge margin. Sadly, she didn't perform an uptempo, which I believe would have worked towards her advantage. I know that there is a bright future for her, she's the youngest to have gone this far, if I'm not mistaken, so I can only imagine the pressure to deliver, especially since she has set the bar for so many of the vocalists and performers in this show. She is also half-Filipino so it makes me happy to see someone like me up there! :lol:

I am so happy for all the success she has achieved so far, and she really made me proud!

I will be happy for whoever wins this! It was a great and enjoyable season! I can't wait for the results telecast, it starts 8AM here!!

by **Thriller** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:30 pm

Phillip will win based on his final song, it was much better than Jessica's. Although I loved her second performance, she didn't pull it out the bag enough.

by **Loki0012** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:53 pm

Go jessica!

by **fran_** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:39 am

Jessica LOST. :roll:

by **GetBack** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:51 am

I enjoyed the finale! I wasn't able to catch the earlier performances as I woke up late.

I was blown away by the duet between Jennifer Holliday and Jessica Sanchez, that was an outstanding performance, I also liked the performances of Aerosmith and Jennifer Lopez. Congratulations to Phillip Phillips! I really hope Jessica makes it big in the US as well.

by **BLover** » Thu May 24, 2012 4:46 pm

How predictable.

by **Thriller** » Thu May 24, 2012 6:13 pm

BLover wrote:How predictable.

It was. Another male winner... if Jessica can't win, I don't know what female can.

Great to hear Jessica do "I Will Always Love You" again, that remains her best vocal performance for me. Although her voice did crack near the end it still sounded exactly like when Whitney's did during her tour haha.

Loved Jordin and Holly's duet. Jordin is easily the best winner for me.

Jennifer Holliday was one of the most hilarious things I've seen all year, her face! :lol:

Are we sure she's not a drag queen? Jessica's last few notes on that song were just flawless.

Great performances from Rihanna and J-Lo.

by **JSparksFan** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:05 am

I was honestly laughing throughout Jennifer Holliday's and Jessica's duet. Her facial expressions are to die for! :lol:

I kept on laughing throughout the show, especially at the results, which, for the fourth consecutive reason, were a joke.

The night wasn't a complete hot mess. Rihanna was great and Jordin's duet with Holly was good too. I also enjoyed seeing Joshua back on stage but that proposal nonsense was just so tacky. :roll:

I'm not trying to discredit Phillip but for Idol to give him the victory over Jessica and Joshua was too much for me. :-?

Kris over Adam, Lee over Crystal, Scotty over Lauren, even though I saw it coming that didn't make it much easier to see.

by **cabanaboy** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:15 am

^Scotty Lauren finale was awful

Should have been Haley verses who cares

by **abi** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:27 am

Jessica >>> Joshua >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phillip

He's gonna be another Kris Allen I think. I can see why Joshua was voted off though, he oversang most of the time and he made every song sounded like a Gospel song.

Anyway, am I the only one here who likes Deandre? That man has a wonderful voice.