Madonna :: The "MDNA" Era

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Postby krikshels » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:57 am

Rub_rb wrote:
TiagoRodrigues wrote:Lady Gaga also had a 90% drop didn't she?
84%. Still, she sold 174k in her 2nd week and stayed at #1... And above 100k on 3rd week... Just saying.
LOL you will answer any excuse to rub in the face that
BTW has outsold MDNA - We got that already few pages back when we were debating about the 0.99 cents. So get back on track we are over it
Don't just stand there let's get to it
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:03 am

khom09 wrote:If she doesnt want to be compared to gaga,katy or riri she should stop recording the same music as them and record more AC music
looool of course!
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:05 am

Well lets compare third albuns, shall we? True Blue vs BTW. 8million in the US and 20 around the world, 3 #1 in US and 4 In UK. Now if someone has the stats for BTW, be my guest and post it.
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Postby floria » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:11 am

krikshels wrote:
Rub_rb wrote:
TiagoRodrigues wrote:Lady Gaga also had a 90% drop didn't she?
84%. Still, she sold 174k in her 2nd week and stayed at #1... And above 100k on 3rd week... Just saying.
LOL you will answer any excuse to rub in the face that
BTW has outsold MDNA - We got that already few pages back when we were debating about the 0.99 cents. So get back on track we are over it
Please stop with these 99 cents.
180K copies from MDNA in the US are practically free if it comes to tricks.
99 cents, no 0.99 cents.
0.99$ can. ;)
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Postby frozenpower » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:11 am

khom09 wrote:If she doesnt want to be compared to gaga,katy or riri she should stop recording the same music as them and record more AC music
Well she certainly paved the way for them.. I don't see why she should stop making dance/pop music.. in the end, that's what she's been known for.. I mean, don't get me wrong, some AC music would be good too, and she's done it as well.. but a mix of the two should be fair.. a la ray of light..
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:11 am

And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
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Postby arab » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:12 am

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05(04) MDNA 12,483 [43,909 total]
30(09) Collection 2,645 [15,736 total]
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Postby justifyboy » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:14 am

floria wrote:
krikshels wrote:
Rub_rb wrote:
TiagoRodrigues wrote:Lady Gaga also had a 90% drop didn't she?
84%. Still, she sold 174k in her 2nd week and stayed at #1... And above 100k on 3rd week... Just saying.
LOL you will answer any excuse to rub in the face that
BTW has outsold MDNA - We got that already few pages back when we were debating about the 0.99 cents. So get back on track we are over it
Please stop with these 99 cents.
180K copies from MDNA in the US are practically free if it comes to tricks.
99 cents, no 0.99 cents.
0.99$ can. ;)
this story is so old..Madonna gave MDNA for free when people couldn't buy it in stores yet.She would have sold the same amount.THE END
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Postby floria » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:14 am

arab wrote:Japan Oricon
05(04) MDNA 12,483 [43,909 total]
30(09) Collection 2,645 [15,736 total]
wow, very good!:)
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Postby khom09 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:15 am

Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:15 am

frozenpower wrote:
khom09 wrote:If she doesnt want to be compared to gaga,katy or riri she should stop recording the same music as them and record more AC music
Well she certainly paved the way for them.. I don't see why she should stop making dance/pop music, that's what she's been known for.. I mean, don't get me wrong, some AC music would be good too, and she's done it as well.. but a mix of the two should be fair.. a la ray of light..
The thing is, if Madonna promoted the album the same way this girls do, this album would be selling much more. so we can and we shoul compare them. Even without promotion out of her hard core fan base, she did manage to sell 740,000 records. Now let them girls do the same a will see what they will sell.
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Postby krikshels » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:15 am

floria wrote:
krikshels wrote:
Rub_rb wrote:
TiagoRodrigues wrote:Lady Gaga also had a 90% drop didn't she?
84%. Still, she sold 174k in her 2nd week and stayed at #1... And above 100k on 3rd week... Just saying.
LOL you will answer any excuse to rub in the face that
BTW has outsold MDNA - We got that already few pages back when we were debating about the 0.99 cents. So get back on track we are over it
Please stop with these 99 cents.
180K copies from MDNA in the US are practically free if it comes to tricks.
99 cents, no 0.99 cents.
0.99$ can. ;)
Well thats what Im saying Im not trying to bring it back as we had a discussion about it few pages back and we all had a conclusion that BTW has outsold MDNA - and now when there is a negative thing about BTW and we want to compare he comes and rubs us in the face how much it sold second week and third week - Honey we didnt ask you for that.
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:16 am

khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
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Postby Shadowplay » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:17 am

justifyboy wrote:
MariahKremlin wrote:Current itune's album positions top 100
is it possible that her team doesn't care of these bad numbers at all?
It depends. None of us read the deal between Interscope and LiveNation about the album.
It seems a release born to push tour tickets sales, all in a tour with no name was announced and sold before the album and combined with it (preorders, combo tickets tour+album, etc). Maybe all this was expected. I mean, she released Hard Candy in spring too, instead of choosing a more comfortable late autumn release (NOV 08 Hard Candy release and Christmas sales, spring/summer 09 S&S US & Europe leg, autumn break, winter 09/spring 10 S&S south american and asian leg, and then W.E.). The album sold less than a half of what COADF did. If they chose to release Mdna in spring, too, it means they considered HC sales as acceptable. And so they considered its chart trajectory.
What they probably didn't expect was the Gmayl flop. The 'winning HC formula' was: a big hit to sell the album, good sales for a month, then the tour.
After the Gmayl fiasco they tried with a GGW rushed release, with the Masterpiece experiment in the UK, etc. But it didn't work, and Madonna was not available for any kind of promotion, because the main thing, the tour, was imminent...
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:18 am

arab wrote:Japan Oricon
05(04) MDNA 12,483 [43,909 total]
30(09) Collection 2,645 [15,736 total]
Thanks arab ;)
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Postby frozenpower » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:19 am

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The thing is, if Madonna promoted the album the same way this girls do, this album would be selling much more. so we can and we shoul compare them. Even without promotion out of her hard core fan base, she did manage to sell 740,000 records. Now let them girls do the same a will see what they will sell.
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:20 am

Not to mention the tour, that is a sell out everywhere, and no one even knows what the set list is.
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Postby khom09 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:22 am

Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
She was and still is but she didnt manage dominate the albums market like Adele is dominating now
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Postby frozenpower » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:23 am

Dragonn wrote:Not to mention the tour, that is a sell out everywhere, and no one even knows what the set list is.
Exactly! I can't wait for that setlist!
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Postby frozenpower » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:25 am

khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
She was and still is but she didnt manage dominate the albums market like Adele is now
Well she kinda did with like a virgin and true blue albums.. Adele is great and I love her music, I just hope she maintains the same status for her upcoming albums.. which would be great..
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Postby whan » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:30 am

frozenpower wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
She was and still is but she didnt manage dominate the albums market like Adele is now
Well she kinda did with like a virgin and true blue albums.. Adele is great and I love her music, I just hope she maintains the same status for her upcoming albums.. which would be great..
I don't think so... 21 is like album of the decade :lol:
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Postby Dragonn » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:30 am

khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
She was and still is but she didnt manage dominate the albums market like Adele is dominating now
What do you mean? Now or before? Because from 83 to 90 yes she did! Just like adele is doing now, in the charts i mean, because they are completely diferent artists
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Postby Rub_rb » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:31 am

justifyboy wrote:
floria wrote:
krikshels wrote:
Rub_rb wrote:
TiagoRodrigues wrote:Lady Gaga also had a 90% drop didn't she?
84%. Still, she sold 174k in her 2nd week and stayed at #1... And above 100k on 3rd week... Just saying.
LOL you will answer any excuse to rub in the face that
BTW has outsold MDNA - We got that already few pages back when we were debating about the 0.99 cents. So get back on track we are over it
Please stop with these 99 cents.
180K copies from MDNA in the US are practically free if it comes to tricks.
99 cents, no 0.99 cents.
0.99$ can. ;)
this story is so old..Madonna gave MDNA for free when people couldn't buy it in stores yet.She would have sold the same amount.THE END
Wtf???? Lol. People redeemed the album when it was released, not before.
You dont know how many of them would have bought it anyway in the stores. Nobody knows. That's only speculation.
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Postby khom09 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:32 am

frozenpower wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
She was and still is but she didnt manage dominate the albums market like Adele is now
Well she kinda did with like a virgin and true blue albums.. Adele is great and I love her music, I just hope she maintains the same status for her upcoming albums.. which would be great..
Like a virgin and True blue did well but they didnt dominate the charts like 21 is now in terms of chart positions and longetivity both in the USA and ww my point is we cant compare True blue to BTW in terms of sales rather compare using chart positions , longetivity and singles perfomance. btw True Blue perfomed better than BTW
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Postby denise » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:36 am

Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:
khom09 wrote:
Dragonn wrote:And don´t give me that crap about the market, Adele just crossed the 20 million mark the past week!
lol you really want to prove your point, Adele is a Phenomenal that comes once in a while, its like the come on over (shania twain) of this generation..
Of course, because Adele is unique, diferent from all the crap pop music in the top 40. So was and still is Madonna.
She was and still is but she didnt manage dominate the albums market like Adele is dominating now
What do you mean? Now or before? Because from 83 to 90 yes she did! Just like adele is doing now, in the charts i mean, because they are completely diferent artists
Yes Madonna ruled but defenitely didn't have a single album which can touch Adele 21 supremacy and let me tell yo that no one has it.....at the end of the game 21 chart success will be second only to Thriller.

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