Madonna :: The "MDNA" Era

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Postby IceAngel » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:11 am

1jesper1 wrote:
Thebeatgoeson wrote:Turn up the Radio should be use for some kind of WW important event. Don't know if there's any recently.
The Olympics? The opening of the Olympics is the 27th July. She's in Ireland the 24th and in Austria the 29th. Can't they just book her for the opening?!
It's not THAT easy to get to open the Olympics...They don't just 'book her in' like it was a TV appearance :) :)
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Postby IceAngel » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:12 am

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Been away a while.. This guy for real?
She's a very pretty woman actually :D and yes I think she's for real!!
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Postby VoReason » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:20 am

IceAngel wrote:
VoReason wrote:
Been away a while.. This guy for real?
She's a very pretty woman actually :D and yes I think she's for real!!
Oh, apologies to the first bit.. And to the second; oh :l
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Postby denise » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:24 am

Alek is for real and she is Ok.....and btw "some" people always trying to stir things up or raise polemic....seriously move on.... :roll:
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Postby VoReason » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:15 am

denise wrote:Alek is for real and she is Ok.....and btw "some" people always trying to stir things up or raise polemic....seriously move on.... :roll:
How I've missed your superiority <3

You love slating blind stans in other threads, but in here they're fine? K, I understand :)
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Postby spiritboy » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:22 am

@tada i know you're a great alicia fan and i like your posts but your posts on Madonna threads are getting boring seriously. so what if MDNA is underperforming? it's not the end of the world.
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Postby upushme » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:44 pm

ManTooth wrote: I wonder if it is because media coverage hasn't been as prevalent with the soccer match that happened the other night?
Probably. In Denmark and in Sweden it seems like MDNA really wants to rebound.
iTunes now:
#25 Sweden
#36+73 Denmark

In Germany it's still at #121, but maybe the show in Koln + some airplay from TUTR could help. And the video will arrive sooner or later...
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:49 pm

MDNA up to n 26 in Israel ..
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Postby maroon » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:01 pm

alek wrote:Mexico is in north America , and again , bla ,bla and more bla , you can prove all that you say , and the inflated sales exist only in your head , the poverty , WTF , of course, i was in italy, im not comparing mexico with Italy, both countries are marvelous , im only give an example , but is a fact mexico is in a better economic situation , and the population ,or economic power doesn t matter about album sales between countries , certifications show sales too , without sales ,there s no certifications or albums shipped, again you can t explain your points..you never will understand ..
You don't need to quote the whole long post if you're relating to its short part only. And if you call a discussion "bla bla and more bla", why are you continuing it virtually without any facts or substantial information?
It's true that there is a link between sales and certifications because if something's not selling, it's unlikely going to be certified. They're not showing the same thing though. Shipments are always higher than real sales, sometimes a bit higher but often a lot higher which, I reckon, is the case of MDNA in the Netherlands comparing the album's chart run with other countries where sales are known. You can have your own opinion on it but the fact remains no sales numbers were confirmed for this market as well as the Italian, Spanish and German ones so it's all pure speculation.

As to the facts, yours are somehow incorrect on the economical situation of the world. Here are a couple of links that will show you the position of Italy when compared to Mexico in the rankings of the best developed countries:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... P_(nominal)_per_capita
- http://www.aneki.com/countries2.php?t=R ... le=richest
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/1 ... etherlands
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

If you don't believe wikipedia, check the links they provide below confirming the statistics are true. Not even one of them states that Mexico has a better economic situation. In other words, its music market can hardly be comparable with the Italian one, full stop.

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brunosilva wrote:MDNA is the only album that sold more than 350k copies in the first week and less than 500k copies during its initial run on the Billboard 200.
:D Great! ... A Record :lol:
MDNA will get 500K and that's good if you ask me, no one actually was expecting anything better in Usa knowing how ageist is that country and by the fact that radio do not play her new material at all.
Many people were expecting more in fact. Check the first pages of this thread. Even better, check the comments after the opening week's tally of 359k was revealed. As to radios, soon Italy will be the only place where mainstream radio plays old artists' songs because I've hardly ever heard Madonna on the Irish or British airwaves after 2008's "4 Minutes". If you check other European airplay charts (bar Italy), the MDNA era didn't really appeal to radio programmers. Are they ageist too? I just think they clearly see how average these singles are.

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Timmy94 wrote:But Nicki Minaj isn't well known in Europe and the other artists you named released their albums last year :D .
I'm not talking about what they sold this year, I'm talking about what those albums sold until now :-)
How do you know the sales in the Netherlands?

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arab wrote:MDNA is the 47th best selling album in Australia this year so far. ~#80 by the end of the year? Or will left the top 100?

#60(Bieber) has sold 15,162 copies, so MDNA could sell 20-23k this year
I'm glad The Netherlands are still supporting her. She is likely to sell more then the latest albums of Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Rihanna and Nicki Minaj. So that's quite an effort for the album that's not doing great in some markets worldwide.
Madonna is the QUEEN of Europe , no matter other female artists do , madonna always will BIGGER , well Adele , Pink have some relevancy in Europe , but Madonna is in other world compared with all the female stars in Europe
Do you know that stanning is against the rules of this forum? In Europe there are several queens: Elisabeth II in the UK, Margrethe II in Denmark, Sonja in Norway, Silvia in Sweden, Beatrix in the Netherlands, Sofia in Spain. This is a fact.
Madonna is one of the most famous female entertainers / popstars in Europe because of her long legacy. At the moment she's an important stage figure and moneymaker but, as shown by chart positions of her recent singles and albums, is becoming less and less relevant when it comes to new material she's releasing. Is it so hard to understand and admit instead of looning, throwing the same old meaningless slogans about "queens of Europe"? :roll:
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Postby denise » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:42 pm

VoReason wrote:
denise wrote:Alek is for real and she is Ok.....and btw "some" people always trying to stir things up or raise polemic....seriously move on.... :roll:
How I've missed your superiority <3

You love slating blind stans in other threads, but in here they're fine? K, I understand :)
and bla bla bla.........enough of OT here....bye :roll:

@Maroon the very inititial prediction for MDNA were not even above the 450-500K mark for the album in Usa.....that's what count the most, obviously is easier than to come to conclusion after the first week sales, but that doesn't count for me anyway. Again, 500k in Usa is good for me after all....the main and unexpected MDNA sale underperformance comes from outside the Usa mainly, especially Europe.

And last but not least, hope you realize that quoting with such long post over and over the same old stuff you consider in your eyes as stanning or trolling it doesn't make you look any better than the ones you are quoting......again if you have to complain just to respect the rules , please PM a mod.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:19 pm

denise wrote:
VoReason wrote:
denise wrote:Alek is for real and she is Ok.....and btw "some" people always trying to stir things up or raise polemic....seriously move on.... :roll:
How I've missed your superiority <3

You love slating blind stans in other threads, but in here they're fine? K, I understand :)
and bla bla bla.........enough of OT here....bye :roll:

@Maroon the very inititial prediction for MDNA were not even above the 450-500K mark for the album in Usa.....that's what count the most, obviously is easier than to come to conclusion after the first week sales, but that doesn't count for me anyway. Again, 500k in Usa is good for me after all....the main and unexpected MDNA sale underperformance comes from outside the Usa mainly, especially Europe.

And last but not least, hope you realize that quoting with such long post over and over the same old stuff you consider in your eyes as stanning or trolling it doesn't make you look any better than the ones you are quoting......again if you have to complain just to respect the rules , please PM a mod.
denisse stop , he never will understand , he never can explain nothing..really i don t care all that he said..anymore

and why? say the true is stanning , Madonna in Europe is so BIG , and 4 sure im talking about the music industry in Europe. not that she is a Queen like Queen of England or Spain.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:12 pm

what about Russia ?
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Postby denise » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:27 pm

alek wrote:what about Russia ?
No news there since a while by now...still the album is 5xplat.
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Postby artur » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:59 pm

alek wrote:what about Russia ?
Madonna is not Queen of Russia.
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Postby alek » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:05 pm

artur wrote:
alek wrote:what about Russia ?
Madonna is not Queen of Russia.
OMG ... :D

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Postby alek » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:06 pm

denise wrote:
alek wrote:what about Russia ?
No news there since a while by now...still the album is 5xplat.
hope MDNA will be 6xp soon in Russia ,
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Postby Vindrag » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:58 pm

What is Masterpiece doing at #138 on Swedish iTunes!? Nice. It's one of my favourite Madonna songs.
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Postby VoReason » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:06 am

alek wrote:denisse stop , he never will understand , he never can explain nothing..really i don t care all that he said..anymore
Fairly certain I've only ever addressed you once :lol:

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Postby 1jesper1 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:11 am

denise wrote:
VoReason wrote:
denise wrote:Alek is for real and she is Ok.....and btw "some" people always trying to stir things up or raise polemic....seriously move on.... :roll:
How I've missed your superiority <3

You love slating blind stans in other threads, but in here they're fine? K, I understand :)
and bla bla bla.........enough of OT here....bye :roll:

@Maroon the very inititial prediction for MDNA were not even above the 450-500K mark for the album in Usa.....that's what count the most, obviously is easier than to come to conclusion after the first week sales, but that doesn't count for me anyway. Again, 500k in Usa is good for me after all....the main and unexpected MDNA sale underperformance comes from outside the Usa mainly, especially Europe.
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precisely. the sales (477,500 still counting) aren't that huge drop from Hard Candy (740.000). The underperformance is from outside US where the drop is drastic. Hard Candy sold like 4,000,000 but MDNA has sold like 1,200,000-1,500,000 (?). That depends on a mixture of both declining sales overall in the music industry, but also Madonnas single not being as relevant as before.
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Postby alek » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:20 am

in US MDNA has sold like 484,000 to date, still selling , hard candy has sold more than 3,800,000 ww

MDNA has sold over 1,600,000 copies ww and still selling , also is one of the best selling albums this year in the world till now...

here the closer estimations ...

http://fotpforums.com/forumdisplay.php?119-Madonna
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Postby clh_hilary » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:37 am

IceAngel wrote:
1jesper1 wrote:
Thebeatgoeson wrote:Turn up the Radio should be use for some kind of WW important event. Don't know if there's any recently.
The Olympics? The opening of the Olympics is the 27th July. She's in Ireland the 24th and in Austria the 29th. Can't they just book her for the opening?!
It's not THAT easy to get to open the Olympics...They don't just 'book her in' like it was a TV appearance :) :)
I just want to remind you we are in a Madonna thread. :D
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Postby upushme » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:28 pm

News from the UK? Still in the top 200?
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Postby alek » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:39 pm

TUNES

MDNA

#18 Colombia
#20 Sweden
#26 Argentina
#26 Hungary
#27 Denmark
#29 Venezuela
#32 Denmark
#37 Netherlands
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Postby alek » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:50 pm

upushme wrote:News from the UK? Still in the top 200?
we have to wait some days to know that :wink:
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Postby AndiIversen » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:07 pm

Mexico (amprofon)

Top 100 albums:

#61 (lw:#55) MDNA 13 weeks
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