The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs, court rules

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Postby Formusic » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:01 pm

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File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled.

The Swedish website hosts links to download mostly pirated free music and video.

Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.

"Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists," the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) said.

A sixth ISP, BT, requested "a few more weeks" to consider their position on blocking the site.

BPI's chief executive Geoff Taylor said: "The High Court has confirmed that The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale.

"Its operators line their pockets by commercially exploiting music and other creative works without paying a penny to the people who created them.

"This is wrong - musicians, sound engineers and video editors deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else."
'Compelling alternatives'

In November 2011, the BPI asked the group of ISPs to voluntarily block access to the site.

The request followed a court order to block Newzbin 2, a site also offering links to download pirated material.

The ISPs said they would not block the site unless a court order was made, as is now the case.

Virgin Media told the BBC it will now comply with the request, but warned such measures are, in the long term, only part of the solution.
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"As a responsible ISP, Virgin Media complies with court orders addressed to the company but strongly believes that changing consumer behaviour to tackle copyright infringement also needs compelling legal alternatives, such as our agreement with Spotify, to give consumers access to great content at the right price."

The Pirate Bay was launched in 2003 by a group of friends from Sweden and rapidly became one of the most famous file-sharing sites on the web.

It allows users to search for and access copyrighted content including movies, games and TV shows.
No 'extra pennies'

In April 2009, the Swedish courts found the four founders of the site guilty of helping people circumvent copyright controls.

The ruling was upheld after an appeal in 2010, but the site continues to function.

The Pirate Party UK, a spin-off from the political movement started in Sweden that backs copyright reform, said this latest move will "not put any extra pennies into the pockets of artists".

"Unfortunately, the move to order blocking on The Pirate Bay comes as no surprise," party leader Loz Kaye told the BBC.

"The truth is that we are on a slippery slope towards internet censorship here in the United Kingdom."
'Pointless and dangerous'

Critics of site-blocking argue that such measures are ineffective as they can be circumvented using proxy servers and other techniques.

However, one analyst told the BBC that it was still worthwhile to take court action as it underlines the illegal nature of sites such as The Pirate Bay.

"I know it's fashionable to say 'oh, it just won't work', but we should keep trying," said Mark Little, principal analyst at Ovum.

"We should keep blocking them - they are stealing music illegally.

"The biggest culprits of this, really, are the younger demographic who just haven't been convinced that doing this is somehow morally uncomfortable.

"The principle that downloading music illegally is a bad thing to do has not been reinforced by schools or parents."

But Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, called the move "pointless and dangerous".

"It will fuel calls for further, wider and even more drastic calls for internet censorship of many kinds, from pornography to extremism," he said.

"Internet censorship is growing in scope and becoming easier. Yet it never has the effect desired. It simply turns criminals into heroes."
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Postby Jesper » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:06 pm

I hate this stupid people, whenever you agree with them or not, all governments and the music industry have basically waited too long to do something about it, they have made people used to the fact it is there and the music industry itself also has used it. They could have invented a way to prevent leaking and piracy for years now, so to whine now, in a time when everything is worse to say the least, is just laughable imo.

not that I use The Pirate Bay though
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Postby HBIC » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:17 pm

I hate Pirate Bay anyway, always gives me viruses even though it says it's safe. Smh.
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Postby Wayne » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:22 pm

I don't use Pirate Bay - or any torrents for that matter. So this doesn't really affect me.
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Postby NoAngels » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:23 pm

So, it's as if it's a big deal to ThePiratePay.

I don't use it or torrents either!
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Postby Thriller » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:42 pm

I use it all the time for TV shows and movies :(
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Postby CrazyCrazy » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:43 pm

I use a great sharing network, it's very active and has so much stuff on it, I will not disclose as I hope it will never close. I've been using it for YEARS! 8-)
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Postby Play » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:44 pm

Thriller wrote:I use it all the time for TV shows and movies :(
I do too!

I mean yeah pirating music is losing a purchase bla bla...

but one can (and does) also torrent other things which are not available to buy!

I torrent some F1 races that I miss :roll:

Is that a crime?..... alright then, oh!
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Postby naughty » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:32 pm

Thriller wrote:I use it all the time for TV shows and movies :(
I really found some stuff in there that I didn't anywhere, I love pirate bay for downloading TV shows, it's Amazing.
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Postby CrazyCrazy » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:37 pm

tvfreeload is another great one for tvshows/films, but you may need to request fresh links. :D
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Postby Noahh » Tue May 01, 2012 12:28 am

The Pirate Bay is blocked for one of the internet providers here in The Netherlands too. And out of all providers, my parents have that one, FML... :roll:

Luckily at my apartment I have a different one so I can still download torrents at my own place.

There are still ways to download from TPB regardless of the blockage though...
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Postby JimJim » Tue May 01, 2012 12:32 am

If one of the ISPs doesn't agree, I can see their sales going through the roof compared to the others :lol: :lol:

Also, don't they release that there is file sharing beyond The Pirate Bay? It's not like it is the be-all-end-all of Channel BT :lol:

@Play, of course that isn't an issue. I don't think people should feel guilty about downloading TV shows in particular, as they are available to view for free anyway.
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Postby MrRager » Tue May 01, 2012 12:36 am

No biggy! Kickasstorrents And Isohunt are better anyways ;-)
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Postby ECE » Tue May 01, 2012 9:07 am

Oh I use TPBay for movies mainly! Hope it'll continue to work properly everywhere!
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Postby samra » Tue May 01, 2012 9:42 am

Why are they only acting now? Why has it taken the music industry so long to realise that it needs to stop illegal downloading? That's why no one pays any attention to these efforts to curb illegal sharing. If the companies themselves didn't care for this long, why would the wider public. suddenly stop downloading?

I agree with the guy who says this could lead to a slippery slope.
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Postby alxx » Tue May 01, 2012 10:43 am

It's not the music industry that's lagged behind, it's the government who for the most part don't give a shit about the music industry. Something else will just pop up anyway, but at least now they can refer back to this case so hopefully things will move faster.
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Postby pollei » Wed May 02, 2012 6:35 am

Not from the United Kingdom so no biggie :lol:
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