Big Brother 2012

Moderators: crazyman324, Tiger

 

Postby aaliyahman » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:11 pm

Blondini wrote:
aaliyahman wrote:Maybe that's just your narrowmindedness lumping people together who are completely different. Ghetto speak nonsense!? Would you last a millisecond in a ghetto to even comprehend what you're saying?

Shievonne is nothing like Charley or Alexandra apart from the fact she's black and from London.

I was really wondering when the 'she's just like all the rest' comment was going to come from you.
She IS aggressive when arguing, she doesn't listen to the other person. She is an awful representation of a black female. Perpetuating a racism you seem to be accusing me of. If i think this, it's because of Big Brother. I'm not saying she's as bad. She does share similar agrravating character traits. That Sophia girl was like this as well, rest her soul.

They shouldn't be putting black women like this in the house. I'd have thought you'd agree with me. Wasn't it you that made this very point when Sophia was in?

I also don't think they should be putting thick trailer trash/ chavs like Ashleigh etc in there all the time (funny how we can say "chav" and no-one pulls you up on it, even though it too is a gross generalisation). Or camp drama queens (thankfully Scott is bearable compared to past horrors). They are all encouraging hostility towards these communities.

That "slim shady" quote was "ghetto speak" wasn't it? "Are you coming at me?"
Alexandra did say similar things. I know Aisleyne did, too but she hung around with black people, that's why. (and she wasn't annoying).

Sorry if i'm wrong but i can't judge apart from what i've seen of people like her on TV.

All the phrases she throws in are extremely annoying.

Spartan wrote:I love how calm and composed Deana remained during Shievonne's rambling. Shievonne's coming across as very nasty recently and looking for arguments. I hate her ghetto talk too, it's dreadful.

Not really fussed who goes to be frank.
Thank you. Yes, completely different to Charley, Alexandra, Sophia... who never bullied or intimidated anyone.

And it's not just Big Brother that perpetuates a racist stereotype - Jerry Springer and Ricki Lake kickstarted it. It's not "all the rest" of black women - it's a type of black woman. But this type gives "all the rest" the bad name.

Just like Gypsy Weddings reinforces hostility towards travellers and gypsies.
I understand what you're syaing but every time a black female is on a reality show that you watch, I am literally counting down the seconds untill you pull the 'aggressive, ghetto, bully' card or tick your boxes. I'm pretty sure you were overly critical of Noirin too. You do it every time. Perhaps if there was a house, half black half white you'd be able to differentiate.

Yet in this instance you're singling out one character trait and using it to slag off Shievonne. Why not use Conor or Caroline's typical character traits.
I said a few pages back that people would forget how vile Conor actually is and look what's happened, he's about to survive twice.
Have they not been consistantly FAR WORSE than Shievonne. Not in your book hey.
"What goes around comes back around my baby"
User avatar
aaliyahman
Superstar
 
Posts: 7772
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006

Postby topopMAC1 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:08 am

Oh dear... Deana's going to turn on Lauren by the looks of things... :(
"This time I'm gonna get it right. I'm gonna paint my face like the Guggenheim!"
User avatar
topopMAC1
Legend
 
Posts: 17364
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003
Location: Heartbreak Hotel

Postby king_oxymoron » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:31 am

I was away this week for T in the Park and came back to an AMAZING six hours or so of television - the highlight being the eviction night reactions when Deana and Becky were saved, amazing!

Thriller wrote:I don't get Luke S' comment about coming in the house to make a better life for himself, can BB contestants actually make money afterwards these days?
Yeah that really tipped me over the edge to make me think his relationship is fake and would have been with whoever he could find/persuade.

Shievonne has become properly unbearable - you can't disagree with her or you are in the wrong, absolutely unreal. What a change from the woman we all picked out as the favourite!

I was a bit confused at Sara weeping when Deana was saved, but she is growing on me. I don't really think the snapping between her and Luke A is necessary though, and I think she is the worse of the two at it.

Scott has been very funny lately, I still hated how he was to Arron that one night but I like him now.

Adam has gone up a lot in my estimation for his honesty and his prank.

Quite hard to rank besides the top 3 and bottom 2.

01. Becky
02. Scott
03. Deana
04. Lauren
05. Adam
06. Luke S
07. Caroline
08. Sara
09. Luke A
10. Ashleigh
11. Conor
12. Shievonne
User avatar
king_oxymoron
Lickin' On Both Sides
 
Posts: 35217
Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2003
Location: Just alone with my thoughts...

Postby Graham76man » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:19 am

Lauren is now the bookies favourite to win :o

Though they have not got a clue who's going on Friday :wink: Instead they will decide the final odds on who gets the most boos Friday :lol:

The bitching most be catching :( It seems to have gripped a pair of UKMIX's on here :lol:
Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!
User avatar
Graham76man
Manager
 
Posts: 2147
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010
Location: Sheffield

Postby Spartan » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:42 pm

I hope Deana doesn't get influenced by anything Shievonne is telling her. If I were in that house, I'd find Shievonne so frustrating. :evil:

Last night's episode made me want to see what I'd look like with a fake tan.
"if that's a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it"
User avatar
Spartan
Legend
 
Posts: 20133
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009

Postby aaliyahman » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:08 pm

Graham76man wrote:Lauren is now the bookies favourite to win :o

Though they have not got a clue who's going on Friday :wink: Instead they will decide the final odds on who gets the most boos Friday :lol:

The bitching most be catching :( It seems to have gripped a pair of UKMIX's on here :lol:
you are funny.
"What goes around comes back around my baby"
User avatar
aaliyahman
Superstar
 
Posts: 7772
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006

Postby SeeForever » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:31 pm

Guess Caroline won't ever appear on Help I'm A Celebrity....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

There wasn't even anything alive in the boxes I don't remember any freaking out this bad on this type of task before, anyone feel she was over-acting on this??
RIP The Queen Of Disco
User avatar
SeeForever
Legend
 
Posts: 12155
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2006
Location: West Midlands, England

Postby king_oxymoron » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:47 pm

No I think that was genuine, it's never nice to put your hand in something you can't see...

Lauren was really annoying today, she doesn't get out of the task because she is friends with two of them.. and it's not her bacon, why should she have the rights to it?

The task itself is great! Big Brother has been on fire lately.
User avatar
king_oxymoron
Lickin' On Both Sides
 
Posts: 35217
Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2003
Location: Just alone with my thoughts...

Postby aaliyahman » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:43 pm

king_oxymoron wrote:No I think that was genuine, it's never nice to put your hand in something you can't see...

Lauren was really annoying today, she doesn't get out of the task because she is friends with two of them.. and it's not her bacon, why should she have the rights to it?

The task itself is great! Big Brother has been on fire lately.
Loved Caroline's reactions. I would be terrified myself and probably refuse.

Lauren is annoying.
"What goes around comes back around my baby"
User avatar
aaliyahman
Superstar
 
Posts: 7772
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006

Postby jafetsigfinns » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:27 pm

I wish this were a double eviction, jeez.
My Countdown Thread! Now: Britney Spears!
User avatar
jafetsigfinns
Manager
 
Posts: 1526
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010
Location: Iceland

Postby topopMAC1 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:38 pm

I love Lauren but she was a bit annoying last night. Shievonne was a bit more like her normal self. I just hope she isn't evicted tonight.

Caroline's task was hilarious... talk about TOTAL overreaction! :lol:
"This time I'm gonna get it right. I'm gonna paint my face like the Guggenheim!"
User avatar
topopMAC1
Legend
 
Posts: 17364
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003
Location: Heartbreak Hotel

Postby Spartan » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:43 pm

topopMAC1 wrote:Caroline's task was hilarious... talk about TOTAL overreaction! :lol:
Totes agree. I know that fear of the unknown is quite scary but her over-hysterics proved what an actress she is and her level of maturity.

BaconGate was stupid.

Not bothered who goes tonight honestly.
"if that's a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it"
User avatar
Spartan
Legend
 
Posts: 20133
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009

Postby Blondini » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:00 pm

1 3 Lauren
2 1 Deana
3 2 Adam
4 4 Scott
5 6 Luke A
6 7 Sara
7 8 Caroline
8 10 Luke S
9 5 Becky
10 11 Ashleigh
11 12 Conor
OUT 9 Shievonne

Latest overall betting odds:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/tv/ ... her/winner

1 1 Lauren
2 4 Adam
3 2 Deana
4 3 Luke A
5 5 Sara
I Love You, Richard Parker!
User avatar
Blondini
Big Time Dreamer
 
Posts: 42590
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2005
Location: Stockton-on-Tees, UK

Postby SeeForever » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:16 pm

Conor survives again :-? Still Shievonne has been a nightmare of late, but Conor's probably thinks he really popular now that he survives again

Good chance Becky will be up next week and Deana sadly again

1 Deana
2 Scott
3 Sara
4 Adam
5 Lauren
6 Becky
7 Luke S
8 Caroline
9 Luke A
10 Ashleigh
11 Conor

The bottom 2 need to be out ASAP
RIP The Queen Of Disco
User avatar
SeeForever
Legend
 
Posts: 12155
Joined: Mon Jun 05, 2006
Location: West Midlands, England

Postby topopMAC1 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:28 pm

I haven't watched it yet but UGH, so disappointed Conor has survived again. :(
"This time I'm gonna get it right. I'm gonna paint my face like the Guggenheim!"
User avatar
topopMAC1
Legend
 
Posts: 17364
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003
Location: Heartbreak Hotel

Postby Thriller » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:51 pm

OMG Caroline with the batteries was brilliant, such good karma :lol:

Lauren looked so hot in the first half of yesterday's episode! She's such a whinge though, bet she'd be a nightmare to live with.

Alarmed by Conor seeming to receive a few cheers in the crowd! Have they forgotten how he talked about slicing, ramming a dildo up and punching Deana? :o

I've got a feeling Luke A could start getting a fair few votes next week... one of him, Adam and Lauren will definitely be up anyway I reckon!
User avatar
Thriller
Moderator
 
Posts: 48226
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003
Location: UK

Postby topopMAC1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:27 am

Just finished watched Shievonne's interviews with Brian and Emma and I think she came across very well. I'm really sad she went out, she could be really funny. It's just a shame this week ruined it for her. I think it's the eviction I've been most sad about actually! :(
"This time I'm gonna get it right. I'm gonna paint my face like the Guggenheim!"
User avatar
topopMAC1
Legend
 
Posts: 17364
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003
Location: Heartbreak Hotel

Postby aaliyahman » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:18 am

topopMAC1 wrote:I haven't watched it yet but UGH, so disappointed Conor has survived again. :(
I found out Shievonne was leaving and just turned off. I probably won't watch today too cos it's basically yesterday's show etc.

I'm upset that Shievonne went but more so that it's Conor who has stayed AGAIN. Look a few pages back, I knew this would happen the dumb girl voters 'love Conor' because he's so 'Funny'.
"What goes around comes back around my baby"
User avatar
aaliyahman
Superstar
 
Posts: 7772
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006

Postby Graham76man » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:37 am

aaliyahman wrote:
topopMAC1 wrote:I haven't watched it yet but UGH, so disappointed Conor has survived again. :(
I found out Shievonne was leaving and just turned off. I probably won't watch today too cos it's basically yesterday's show etc.

I'm upset that Shievonne went but more so that it's Conor who has stayed AGAIN. Look a few pages back, I knew this would happen the dumb girl voters 'love Conor' because he's so 'Funny'.
Don't kid yourself over those girls! Connor stayed because he didn't mouth off after the results. In fact he did the complete reverse. Whereas Shievonne mouthed off at everyone and laid into Dino! The same happened with Arron the other week. Connor will go if he's up against one of the top 5 on that bookies list above.
I'll say this for Shievonne she came accross very well in her interviews and as a nice friendly person. So much so it silenced any critics of her.
But even the bookies favs in the house were saying that her departure was better for them than Connor, that included Dino!


Don't think it was fair by Big Brother to allow no fails on the task. Clearly just a spitful thing for them to do :lol:

On BTOS. Former old housemate Luke said: "They slaughter Pigs daily just to keep up with Lauren's need for Bacon". :lol:
Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!
User avatar
Graham76man
Manager
 
Posts: 2147
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010
Location: Sheffield

Postby aaliyahman » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:19 pm

Graham76man wrote:
aaliyahman wrote:
topopMAC1 wrote:I haven't watched it yet but UGH, so disappointed Conor has survived again. :(
I found out Shievonne was leaving and just turned off. I probably won't watch today too cos it's basically yesterday's show etc.

I'm upset that Shievonne went but more so that it's Conor who has stayed AGAIN. Look a few pages back, I knew this would happen the dumb girl voters 'love Conor' because he's so 'Funny'.
Don't kid yourself over those girls! Connor stayed because he didn't mouth off after the results. In fact he did the complete reverse. Whereas Shievonne mouthed off at everyone and laid into Dino! The same happened with Arron the other week. Connor will go if he's up against one of the top 5 on that bookies list above.
I'll say this for Shievonne she came accross very well in her interviews and as a nice friendly person. So much so it silenced any critics of her.
But even the bookies favs in the house were saying that her departure was better for them than Connor, that included Dino!

Don't think it was fair by Big Brother to allow no fails on the task. Clearly just a spitful thing for them to do :lol:

On BTOS. Former old housemate Luke said: "They slaughter Pigs daily just to keep up with Lauren's need for Bacon". :lol:
I didn't watch her interviews but I'm not kidding myself whatsoever. Some BOTS audience members were even saying they wanted Conor to win...again I don't mean every viewer but that certain dumb girl section may have totally forgotten about what he said to Deana.

What BB should have/should do is have played back what he said in the house. Or they should do a 'who said this'....
"What goes around comes back around my baby"
User avatar
aaliyahman
Superstar
 
Posts: 7772
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006

Postby Mike_54 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:23 pm

If "dumb girl votes"(whatever) didn't save Arron, they will not save anyone in that house!!Shievonne and Conor at moment are most HATED people in house and either could go and it would still be win-win situation for viewers, it's not like people saved Conor because he is funny or people like him, far away from it...

Only thing that could've helped Conor is that as much as awful and bad person, he is real to himself and is same every week, and people got used to him, he annoys viewers still as much, but he didn't annoy them anymore than week before , or the one before that, while Shievonne(who just screams "I'm so fake") totally lost her plot this week, was so agressive while she absolutley didn't had clue what she is talking about etc. I swear she can tell 43946914 words, and not even one of them will make sense and will be opposite to reality...

So while Conor was annoying as his usual self during past weeks(not more or less), Shievonne was just getting more and more annoying every week with things exploding this week, so It makes sense people got her out..I think there was little difference in votes, so anyway...
User avatar
Mike_54
Manager
 
Posts: 2169
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011

Postby aaliyahman » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:26 pm

Mike_54 wrote:If "dumb girl votes"(whatever) didn't save Arron, they will not save anyone in that house!!Shievonne and Conor at moment are most HATED people in house and either could go and it would still be win-win situation for viewers, it's not like people saved Conor because he is funny or people like him, far away from it...

Only thing that could've helped Conor is that as much as awful and bad person, he is real to himself and is same every week, and people got used to him, he annoys viewers still as much, but he didn't annoy them anymore than week before , or the one before that, while Shievonne(who just screams "I'm so fake") totally lost her plot this week, was so agressive while she absolutley didn't had clue what she is talking about etc. I swear she can tell 43946914 words, and not even one of them will make sense and will be opposite to reality...

So while Conor was annoying as his usual self during past weeks(not more or less), Shievonne was just getting more and more annoying every week with things exploding this week, so It makes sense people got her out..I think there was little difference in votes, so anyway...
You've completely missed the point. Don't try and have a rebuttal if you're coming for something completely different. I said that after time, I bet the Conor thing will die down and 'dumb girl voters' will forget.

OBVIOUSLY things didn't die down whilst Arron and him were being vile in the diary room to Dean and Becky but now with a week of light editing showing Conor's fun side, he got off with the vote. Anotehr week of amiable acting/editing then Conor might as well book himself a place to the final.

Shievonne had done nothing on the scale Conor had yet voters have obviously mellowed as for what he has done, he should be out.
"What goes around comes back around my baby"
User avatar
aaliyahman
Superstar
 
Posts: 7772
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006

Postby Mike_54 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:03 pm

No you are missing my point! "he got off with the vote." hmmmm this is how I would finish that sentence -He got off with the vote OVER Shievonne.

Now there must be some explanation about that, and I completley stand by what I wrote in my post above and I think that's valid point as I'm not taking any sort of thought that Conor stayed in, because he showed his fun side or that he behaved himself in past days.. During last week he was absolute prick as usual, he was still non-stop moaning about Deana and Becky, he was breaking the rules, done Arron kind of stupid pranks etc.

As I said it was absolute win-win situation for viewers with who ever got to go.. As of today, Conor is again most hated person in the house, simple as that!
User avatar
Mike_54
Manager
 
Posts: 2169
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011

Postby arronlei » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:08 pm

^ I bet Caroline would be evicted over conner.
User avatar
arronlei
Manager
 
Posts: 1935
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2006
Location: manchester uk

Postby Graham76man » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:45 pm

The trouble with Big Brother is they rarely give out the vote level or percentage. So in this weeks case we don't know how close it was. Sometimes the eviction show can swing the vote if there is something on it that might favour a person. This Friday's show had quite a bit of the rants of Shivonne, so if the vote was close it could have swung it. However even though I wanted Connor to go, I suspected all along that her rants would have got people voting for Connor, not because they liked him, they just had enough of her. Also mud sticks so nobody will forget what he said, in fact Luke on BTOS reminded people of it. I reckon it could haunt him for a while after the show has long been forgotten. :-?
If Connor were to last while the final, due to some vote flukes, he wouldn't win because the vile words would be raised by those wanting others to win.
Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!
User avatar
Graham76man
Manager
 
Posts: 2147
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010
Location: Sheffield

Return to TV & Film