Jay-Z Supports Gay Marriage [VIDEO]

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Postby Benjamin » Tue May 15, 2012 3:46 pm

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Goldmoney wrote:Yes! Such a huge step into making the hip-hop culture less homophobic. :P
It would be a huge step if someone like Nas, Chuck D or Common said that--not some egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world outside of any opportunity for him to make a profit.

The camel jumps on opportunity.
Lmao yes, Jay-Z is more a modern rapper than anything, but I'm sure Nas or Chuck D would be in support. First someone has to want to interview them though.

I wouldn't put Common in the same category as those two. He's more in line with Jay-Z, personally at least.
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Common pledges to stop using anti-gay slurs

Hip-hop artist Common has declared that he won't be using anti-gay slurs in his lyrics anymore. The performer, who has got a busy year ahead of him, said that he listened to gay fans who challenged how his songs dealt with homosexuality, noting "I thought about it. I ain't here to judge 'em, so I just decided not to approach it like that."

Common's music is known for being topical and socially conscious, including a recent single "The People" that referenced Barack Obama. He previously took the n-word out of songs in his latest album, after talking with Oprah Winfrey and apologizing for his use of the slur.
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Postby YesMC » Tue May 15, 2012 3:47 pm

MonaBlissa wrote:egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world
I wouldn't judge someone like that if I don't personally know the person.
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Postby danbarj » Tue May 15, 2012 3:59 pm

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MonaBlissa wrote:egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world
I wouldn't judge someone like that if I don't personally know the person.
In the same vein, we can't judge if it's sincere or opportunistic.

But, does it really matter? It's Jay Z that said it. It's not going to help or hurt rap, it's not going to change the opinions of the masses and it holds not political or religious weight (the two governesses of society) so does it really matter?
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Postby neoepzilon » Tue May 15, 2012 4:09 pm

Thanks for that article Banzai!

I find that when rappers use gay slurs in their music, it's usually not targeted towards gays either way. However terms like the F-word are hurtful no matter how you use it. Its good that he made that decision, and that was 5 years ago.

I'm not supporting it, but I think Tyler the Creator said it best:

"Somebody called me a homophobe," he said. "I'm not homophobic. I just say 'faggot' and use 'gay' as an adjective to describe stupid shit." Um so what's to stop me from sayin the notorious N word as an adjective to describe an ingnorant ass?
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MonaBlissa wrote:egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world
I wouldn't judge someone like that if I don't personally know the person.
In the same vein, we can't judge if it's sincere or opportunistic.

But, does it really matter? It's Jay Z that said it. It's not going to help or hurt rap, it's not going to change the opinions of the masses and it holds not political or religious weight (the two governesses of society) so does it really matter?
It matters because he is a role model for so many young men, including myself. So to see his mildness and acceptance of the matter absolutely breaks ice. Jay-Z is the head of hip-hop now, whether we recognize it or not, and when the head makes a conscious decision to support a group and not bash it, it usually trickles down.
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Postby danbarj » Tue May 15, 2012 4:22 pm

^^^ He's the head... if you say so...

To each his own!
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Postby MonaBlissa » Tue May 15, 2012 4:27 pm

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MonaBlissa wrote:egotistical negro who has no understanding of what's happening in the real world
I wouldn't judge someone like that if I don't personally know the person.
Hon-tey! The decade or more that I know and fell into dislike of Jay-Z, the negro is clueless! A discredit to his race who only gets credit because of his money. Sorry!
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Postby MonaBlissa » Tue May 15, 2012 4:30 pm

neoepzilon wrote:
It matters because he is a role model for so many young men, including myself. So to see his mildness and acceptance of the matter absolutely breaks ice. Jay-Z is the head of hip-hop now, whether we recognize it or not, and when the head makes a conscious decision to support a group and not bash it, it usually trickles down.
I don't think this reflects African-Americans. It reflects the white majority who perceives him as some rap God. He's a discredit, opportunist, and can't fall anywhere in the line of "X or King." This man is trying to carry that demonic pride of Donald Trump to a community that is suffering in so many layers. I wouldn't dare aspire to be a Jay-Z. It does NOTHING for the black masses. At least people like Oprah know their mission and purpose outside of their ego.

Jay-Z's support of gay marriage. Faux. I say Kanye's crazy support is more valid.
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Postby MonaBlissa » Tue May 15, 2012 4:31 pm

danbarj wrote:^^^ He's the head... if you say so...

To each his own!
Right!

He's only the head of his own head.
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Postby Lehmann » Tue May 15, 2012 4:50 pm

Jay-Z has nothing to do with real hip hop - Nas reflects Black Americans much better.
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Postby ThaInfo1 » Tue May 15, 2012 4:55 pm

Lehmann wrote:Jay-Z has nothing to do with real hip hop - Nas reflects Black Americans much better.
Who is Nas?...


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Postby Lehmann » Tue May 15, 2012 4:58 pm

You're serious? :-?
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Postby Titan3510 » Tue May 15, 2012 5:27 pm

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Lehmann wrote:Jay-Z has nothing to do with real hip hop - Nas reflects Black Americans much better.
Who is Nas?...

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That was low. Really low...

Good thing, there are no Nas stans present on UKMix because they would've set your ass on fire for that one....

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Postby RapUpPlayer » Tue May 15, 2012 6:06 pm

col89 wrote:So, for the sole reason that Jay-Z supports Gay Marriage (not for his collaborations with Queen Bounce), he is suddenly awesome?
Thats how gays think. Gays believe everything and support everyone that goes around saying "i love gays". Yall need to question this.

Funny, he could only say it after Obama did and he used the word fags back in the day.
+ Nowadays u cant be against gays bc they have taken over. So what did you guys expect?

IMO, he is opportunistic.
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Postby NothingFails » Tue May 15, 2012 6:38 pm

neoepzilon wrote:It matters because he is a role model for so many young men, including myself. So to see his mildness and acceptance of the matter absolutely breaks ice. Jay-Z is the head of hip-hop now, whether we recognize it or not, and when the head makes a conscious decision to support a group and not bash it, it usually trickles down.
This is why so many people were obsessed with Eminem's lyrics ten years ago, not so much because he said it, but because he appealed to so many impressionable people who felt that "fag" was okay to use because he said it. Whenever you looked on an Eminem message board and saw fans using that slur without even thinking twice, it was precisely why people objected so much to him. They decided it was okay and cool to say it because Eminem did so.
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Postby BlueScorpion » Tue May 15, 2012 7:27 pm

I'm glad he just stated this. Wonder if LL Cool J shares the same opinion, he seems one of those very friendly rappers.
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Postby CrazyCrazy » Tue May 15, 2012 9:17 pm

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col89 wrote:So, for the sole reason that Jay-Z supports Gay Marriage (not for his collaborations with Queen Bounce), he is suddenly awesome?
Thats how gays think. Gays believe everything and support everyone that goes around saying "i love gays". Yall need to question this.

Funny, he could only say it after Obama did and he used the word fags back in the day.
+ Nowadays u cant be against gays bc they have taken over. So what did you guys expect?

IMO, he is opportunistic.
This sounds stupid to me. :-?
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Postby Wayne » Tue May 15, 2012 10:04 pm

Another black man adding his support - and a black man with a lot of clout.

Will hopefully do some good for us less-important gays that wish to marry. 8-)
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Postby sambo9 » Tue May 15, 2012 11:09 pm

crazycrazy wrote:
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col89 wrote:So, for the sole reason that Jay-Z supports Gay Marriage (not for his collaborations with Queen Bounce), he is suddenly awesome?
Thats how gays think. Gays believe everything and support everyone that goes around saying "i love gays". Yall need to question this.

Funny, he could only say it after Obama did and he used the word fags back in the day.
+ Nowadays u cant be against gays bc they have taken over. So what did you guys expect?

IMO, he is opportunistic.
This sounds stupid to me. :-?
I especially love the part about gays taking over.

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Postby MonaBlissa » Tue May 15, 2012 11:14 pm

04wayne wrote:Another black man adding his support - and a black man with a lot of clout.

Will hopefully do some good for us less-important gays that wish to marry. 8-)
Jay-Z is not black. And his clout means nada to people like me, who relates, read books, believe in God, and actually know the difference between caring and exploitation.


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Postby neoepzilon » Tue May 15, 2012 11:18 pm

NothingFails wrote:
neoepzilon wrote:It matters because he is a role model for so many young men, including myself. So to see his mildness and acceptance of the matter absolutely breaks ice. Jay-Z is the head of hip-hop now, whether we recognize it or not, and when the head makes a conscious decision to support a group and not bash it, it usually trickles down.
This is why so many people were obsessed with Eminem's lyrics ten years ago, not so much because he said it, but because he appealed to so many impressionable people who felt that "fag" was okay to use because he said it. Whenever you looked on an Eminem message board and saw fans using that slur without even thinking twice, it was precisely why people objected so much to him. They decided it was okay and cool to say it because Eminem did so.
True story bro. How Eminem spoke back then is the reason why I don't like his music at all. Plus I hated the way he reacted to Bruno at the MTV awards. Like he had to pretend to be so 'hard'.

Anyhow, Most people attacking Jay-Z and calling him opportunistic are simply paranoid parrots that don't want to believe that things are getting better in some sectors for all us.

Give the man the benefit of the doubt until he gives you reason to do otherwise.
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Postby neoepzilon » Tue May 15, 2012 11:19 pm

MonaBlissa wrote:
04wayne wrote:Another black man adding his support - and a black man with a lot of clout.

Will hopefully do some good for us less-important gays that wish to marry. 8-)
Jay-Z is not black.
What the hell?!
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Postby Dior » Tue May 15, 2012 11:20 pm

MonaBlissa wrote:Jay-Z is not black.
I KNEW HE PAINTED HIMSELF EVERY MORNING! :o
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Postby NothingFails » Tue May 15, 2012 11:24 pm

neoepzilon wrote:
NothingFails wrote:
neoepzilon wrote:It matters because he is a role model for so many young men, including myself. So to see his mildness and acceptance of the matter absolutely breaks ice. Jay-Z is the head of hip-hop now, whether we recognize it or not, and when the head makes a conscious decision to support a group and not bash it, it usually trickles down.
This is why so many people were obsessed with Eminem's lyrics ten years ago, not so much because he said it, but because he appealed to so many impressionable people who felt that "fag" was okay to use because he said it. Whenever you looked on an Eminem message board and saw fans using that slur without even thinking twice, it was precisely why people objected so much to him. They decided it was okay and cool to say it because Eminem did so.
True story bro. How Eminem spoke back then is the reason why I don't like his music at all. Plus I hated the way he reacted to Bruno at the MTV awards. Like he had to pretend to be so 'hard'.

Anyhow, Most people attacking Jay-Z and calling him opportunistic are simply paranoid parrots that don't want to believe that things are getting better in some sectors for all us.

Give the man the benefit of the doubt until he gives you reason to do otherwise.
Yea. I hated Eminem when he was on the VMA's and completely made an ass out of himself, and also singlehandedly destroyed Moby's career just because Moby dared express a dislike for his lyrics.
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Postby HBIC » Tue May 15, 2012 11:24 pm

neoepzilon wrote:
MonaBlissa wrote:
04wayne wrote:Another black man adding his support - and a black man with a lot of clout.

Will hopefully do some good for us less-important gays that wish to marry. 8-)
Jay-Z is not black.
What the hell?!
Can't wait to see what she meant with this one :lol:
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Postby ECE » Tue May 15, 2012 11:28 pm

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neoepzilon wrote:
MonaBlissa wrote:
04wayne wrote:Another black man adding his support - and a black man with a lot of clout.

Will hopefully do some good for us less-important gays that wish to marry. 8-)
Jay-Z is not black.
What the hell?!
Can't wait to see what she meant with this one :lol:
Maybe that he's not black black but chocolate black? I can't :lol:
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