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Oops yeah i got mixed up. And yes then I am sure SC would have gone a lot higher than 33 with a full release, video etc.
And PI was alreadt at 95 in its 5th week on the chart. Don't think it spent another week on it after that. It flopped on release. Great that it got certified Gold later cos of streaming but as I said, that doesn't change it's chartrun or success.Last edited by InFamous; Thu December 3, 2020, 12:45.
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Originally posted by InFamous View Post
Sour Candy was released as a promo single for the album and had a nice peak of no 17. Black Pink are not that huge in the US that it was going to do much more than that, even with a music video. Check how Ice Cream with Selena performed for reference, even with a video. Sour Candy did it's job on streaming and there was no point to release it again just for it to peak a few places higher on the hot 100.
Also, Perfect Illusion did flop on it's chartrun on release. IT spent only 5 weeks on the hot 100 if i recall correctly and wasn't certified GOLD until over a year after it's release. So yeah the song definitely flopped. Release in Sept 2016, certified gold in October 2017. That is not a hit and does not change it's original chartrun in any way. In contrast Rain on Me was released in May of this year and was already certified Platinum by August, just over three months after it's release. That was a big hit, Perfect Illusion not so much.
I believe you forgot that Sour Candy is the biggest BLACKPINK hit in the following countries:
Australia (#8)
Austria (#42)
Czech Republic (#20)
Estonia (#8)
Finland (#15)
France (#62)
Greece (#10)
Hungary (Streaming) (#8)
Ireland (#11)
Italy (#46)
Lithuania (#5)
Malaysia (#1)
Netherlands (#52)
New Zealand (#12)
Portugal (#24)
Singapore (#1)
Slovakia (#20)
Spain (#46)
Sweden (#49)
Switzerland (#30)
UK (#17)
All this without an official video and losing its first day of sales and streams because it was released on a Thursday. It was also the biggest hit of BLACKPINK's career in the US until the release of Ice Cream, which had a video. Sour Candy is literally the biggest worldwide hit of BLACKPINK's career, and all this without a video, imagine if this song was released as an official single with a video? Surely it would also become the biggest hit of BLACKPINK in the US, and I still have to read from you that there's no point in releasing the video for this song? Also, have you ever heard of longevity?
Perfect Illusion was a Top 15 hit in the US without its video that was released only in the week after its debut week and spent 6 weeks in US, not 5, and this without any support from the US radio after the debut week and without any televised performance in the US until today, apart from the fact that Perfect Illusion was already eligible for Gold months before it was, in fact, certified as gold in the US. So, this song didn't flop and it didn't even take a year to become eligible for gold, it's not the fault of Gaga's songs if her label isn't like most big labels, which are concerned with updating their artists' songs as soon as they become eligible for new levels of certification.Last edited by Million; Thu December 3, 2020, 03:38.
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Originally posted by Million View PostNot when Stupid Love is a platinum-eligible Top 5 solo hit in the US even with less than 60m on airplay on the US radio.
If Gaga was desperate to get a hit like other artists, she would have already released Sour Candy MV due to the obvious power of BLACKPINK on YouTube.
Also, Perfect Illusion did flop on it's chartrun on release. IT spent only 5 weeks on the hot 100 if i recall correctly and wasn't certified GOLD until over a year after it's release. So yeah the song definitely flopped. Release in Sept 2016, certified gold in October 2017. That is not a hit and does not change it's original chartrun in any way. In contrast Rain on Me was released in May of this year and was already certified Platinum by August, just over three months after it's release. That was a big hit, Perfect Illusion not so much.
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Rain On Me was certified Gold in Denmark (45k units sold)
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If the Oreo is linked to SC, the video may drop Dec.15th, according to rumours.
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Originally posted by croatiaxtina View Post
Stupid Love disappeared like a rocket from everywhere. It wasn't a flop like Perfect Ilusion, but it wasn't even like decent hit.
And Ariana is power on charts, while Blackpink are still not. And she even released Sour Candy to see the reactions.... so, you're not that right.
If she wasn't desperate then she should've go w solo 2nd single, and not with chart power or yt power.
Not saying at all that Gaga is not powerful. She is, but the delivery wasn't on point w SL, maybe it would do better if it didn't leaked weeks before it was released officially.
This dance pop era was for fans. It wasnt going to smash and was always at risk of being frontloaded, Ari was definitely drafted in to help casual listener appeal. I think that she had a lot of hype and momentum behind her at the beginning of 2020, but stupid love was not strong enough at all... I think had she picked a very strong lead it'd have really helped the era and helped Chromatica chart longer - but I don't think they had much confidence thus wouldn't be another Joanne/ARTPOP sized era.
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Originally posted by nympho View PostLooking at Amazon and other online stores, it seems the limited Box-set will be released this Friday 4 December across Europe, and on Wednesday 16 Dec in Japan.
It seems it won't be released by now in US, Canada, Australia...
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Looking at Amazon and other online stores, it seems the limited Box-set will be released this Friday 4 December across Europe, and on Wednesday 16 Dec in Japan.
It seems it won't be released by now in US, Canada, Australia...
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Billboard Adult Contemporary Songs
15 (13) 26 Rain On Me
Billboard Dance/Electronic Songs
4 (4) 28 Rain On Me
22 (23) 26 911
Billboard Dance/Electronic Albums
1 (1) 26 Chromatica
#1 for 24 weeks.
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Originally posted by croatiaxtina View Post
Stupid Love disappeared like a rocket from everywhere. It wasn't a flop like Perfect Ilusion, but it wasn't even like decent hit
Originally posted by croatiaxtina View PostIf she wasn't desperate then she should've go w solo 2nd single, and not with chart power or yt power.
Most artists release featurings every year and yes, they are not called desperate. Gaga releases whatever she wants, she doesn't need to release only solo singles to prove something to you and at this point, she doesn't need to prove anything to anyone, if she wants to release a feat as the lead single of her next album, she will do it, and nobody has anything to do with it, period.
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Originally posted by Million View PostNot when Stupid Love is a platinum-eligible Top 5 solo hit in the US even with less than 60m on airplay on the US radio.
If Gaga was desperate to get a hit like other artists, she would have already released Sour Candy MV due to the obvious power of BLACKPINK on YouTube.
And Ariana is power on charts, while Blackpink are still not. And she even released Sour Candy to see the reactions.... so, you're not that right.
If she wasn't desperate then she should've go w solo 2nd single, and not with chart power or yt power.
Not saying at all that Gaga is not powerful. She is, but the delivery wasn't on point w SL, maybe it would do better if it didn't leaked weeks before it was released officially.
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Originally posted by croatiaxtina View PostI know why she released ROM tho, cuz she needed hit.
If Gaga was desperate to get a hit like other artists, she would have already released Sour Candy MV due to the obvious power of BLACKPINK on YouTube.
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Originally posted by theMathematician View PostI don't think that the album would've dropped off the chart after like 4 weeks right after the 'A Star Is Born' hype, but we all know that the Billboard 200 is a mess these days, so there was a slight risk for that to happen - and 'Chromatica' didn't, which, indeed, is something.
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I don't think that the album would've dropped off the chart after like 4 weeks right after the 'A Star Is Born' hype, but we all know that the Billboard 200 is a mess these days, so there was a slight risk for that to happen - and 'Chromatica' didn't, which, indeed, is something.
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Bye Chromatica...
I enjoyed playing you so much this year, but your mother decided to snub you and ignore you. You had so much potential.
Too bad the world won't find out about Sine, Babylon, Alice, Free Woman...
Your mother decided to release the as first two singles the weakest ones from album. I know why she released ROM tho, cuz she needed hit.
At least we got amazing music video for 911.
This could've been her best visual era...
bye.
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