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**Bojan** · Fri May 25, 2018, 02:07

Some people are ready to blindly trust some random French MJ fan but are putting in question SoundScan numbers.

There is a reason thebigham and I say this is real. I never even spoke to thebigham but we are both well assured the numbers are real. We didn't take it for granted, without any kind of validation.

Thanks for sharing, thebigham.

**madboy1** · Fri May 25, 2018, 02:08

Streming will help american life???

**AndiIversen** · Fri May 25, 2018, 02:09

^
Not me though, all numbers I got were from SS and never mentioned mjfan.

**madboy1** · Fri May 25, 2018, 02:12

Erotica
Bedtime stories
Something to remenber
Evita
Ray of light
Music
Ghv2
American life
Celebration

Please....

The truth about sales will be reveled.

Thank

One day we know about club sales too. Have faith.

**Bojan** · Fri May 25, 2018, 02:32

Originally posted by madboy1

One day we know about club sales too. Have faith.

We have faith and we pray every day.

**Bojan** · Fri May 25, 2018, 03:44

AMERICAN LIFE

ALBUM SALES: 685,638
ALBUMS W/TEA 728,833
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 734,151
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 735,156
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 9,485,791

68 copies sold last week

**Westen** · Fri May 25, 2018, 08:03

Originally posted by AndiIversen

Originally posted by thebigham

Originally posted by BodyShop

It's absolutely amazing to know these numbers !

Thanks a lot,thebigham!

Really curious about The Immaculate Collection,Ray Of Light and,especially,True Blue/Like a Virgin!
Hope we get to know their updated numbers !

For albums released before SoundScan began, the totals are off.

TIC is now at 4.054 million when it should be over 6 million.

TIC was at 5.054 M in 2004. As it has been mentioned it should be close to 6M now as the last figure we got was close to 5,9 some years back.
A bit strange that it's almost the same number but missing a million.
So almost 2M went into thin air?

Last update was 5,993 if I remember right, my estimated sales would've been at around 6,05m, which is exacly 2m more than currently posted ones

**beredy** · Fri May 25, 2018, 08:12

Originally posted by jjavier1978

MDNA & Rebel Heart very poor in pure sales but are amazing in Streaming Plus Sales .

??? Adding 120k-150k over album sales is not that amazing LOL.

**wave** · Fri May 25, 2018, 09:51

Originally posted by Bojan

Some people are ready to blindly trust some random French MJ fan but are putting in question SoundScan numbers.

There is a reason thebigham and I say this is real. I never even spoke to thebigham but we are both well assured the numbers are real. We didn't take it for granted, without any kind of validation.

Thanks for sharing, thebigham.

Why would anyone trust MJD in the 1st place. He's numbers are just what he thinks and are not real or correct.

**MarlonBS** · Fri May 25, 2018, 09:55

American Life sold more than Hard Candy and Confessions last week? That�s pretty shocking

**AlphaMale** · Fri May 25, 2018, 10:35

Putting things into perspective, American Life is her worst seller.

**madboy1** · Fri May 25, 2018, 11:01

Originally posted by AlphaMale

Putting things into perspective, American Life is her worst seller.

Platinun but
315.000 copies in stores...

**MrLeonix** · Fri May 25, 2018, 11:30

Originally posted by madboy1

Originally posted by AlphaMale

Putting things into perspective, American Life is her worst seller.

Platinun but
315.000 copies in stores...

Those copies were pretty much shipped back tho.

**jjavier1978** · Fri May 25, 2018, 11:38

Originally posted by beredy

Originally posted by jjavier1978

MDNA & Rebel Heart very poor in pure sales but are amazing in Streaming Plus Sales .

??? Adding 120k-150k over album sales is not that amazing LOL.

Based in the date that RH will be released is very good in Streaming

**thebigham** · Fri May 25, 2018, 11:49

Through the 5/26 Billboard charts

Bedtime Stories

ALBUM SALES: 2,339,495
ALBUMS W/TEA 2,393,239
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 2,403,426
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 2,407,276 3xP
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 21,055,077

29 copies sold last week

**madboy1** · Fri May 25, 2018, 12:03

Bedtime stories 2,4k includes club sales?

**BodyShop** · Fri May 25, 2018, 12:17

Originally posted by madboy1

Bedtime stories 2,4k includes club sales?

Certainly not.

**jjavier1978** · Fri May 25, 2018, 12:50

[tweet:2fjeaxfr]https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/999818905055997952[/tweet:2fjeaxfr]

[tweet:2fjeaxfr]https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/999818081764495360[/tweet:2fjeaxfr]

[tweet:2fjeaxfr]https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/999826596985884672[/tweet:2fjeaxfr]

**nympho** · Fri May 25, 2018, 12:54

^
What�s the point of posting those tweets when all that info has been posted here already and Chartdata is just taking the figures from this forum?

**BodyShop** · Fri May 25, 2018, 12:59

Yep. They're obviously copying the info posted here.

**madboy1** · Fri May 25, 2018, 13:00

I dont undersrand certification for shippments...

Originally posted by MrLeonix

Originally posted by madboy1

Originally posted by AlphaMale

Putting things into perspective, American Life is her worst seller.

Platinun but
315.000 copies in stores...

Those copies were pretty much shipped back tho.

What they do? Destroy??

**jjavier1978** · Fri May 25, 2018, 13:07

Originally posted by nympho

^
What�s the point of posting those tweets when all that info has been posted here already and Chartdata is just taking the figures from this forum?

I dont know if he copied the info here in UKMIx or if he has the info from http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/solutions/ ... ement.html

**MrLeonix** · Fri May 25, 2018, 13:09

Originally posted by madboy1

I dont undersrand certification for shippments...

Originally posted by MrLeonix

Originally posted by madboy1

Originally posted by AlphaMale

Putting things into perspective, American Life is her worst seller.

Platinun but
315.000 copies in stores...

Those copies were pretty much shipped back tho.

What they do? Destroy??

Nope, they don't destroy them . . . they simply return those unsold copies to the label.

Generally when an album gets extremely overshipped many of those extra unsold copies get shipped back / returned to the label again.

This is one major flaw and criticism the RIAA has faced many times in the past, for example, if an album ships 1.000.000 and gets certified Platinum but then 250K copies are shipped back to the label these copies never get discounted at all on the RIAA who will always show that album as Platinum (1.000.000) even after the 250K copies that got shipped back.

This why SoundScan is often considered superior.

Both sources are credited as official tho. Just different systems.

**thebigham** · Fri May 25, 2018, 13:16

Originally posted by jjavier1978

Originally posted by nympho

^
What�s the point of posting those tweets when all that info has been posted here already and Chartdata is just taking the figures from this forum?

I dont know if he copied the info here in UKMIx or if he has the info from http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/solutions/ ... ement.html

@chartdata is a poster here at UKMix.

He gets all his info from chart message boards and music industry websites.

He's simply copying and pasting the info from here. There's no need to re-post it.

**music126** · Fri May 25, 2018, 13:21

Originally posted by AlphaMale

Putting things into perspective, American Life is her worst seller.

I'm streaming American Life right now.

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