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Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History
Amercan life. The best albun of these 15 years.
Amercan life. The best albun of these 15 years.
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Nope, they don't destroy them . . . they simply return those unsold copies to the label.
Generally when an album gets extremely overshipped many of those extra unsold copies get shipped back / returned to the label again.
This is one major flaw and criticism the RIAA has faced many times in the past, for example, if an album ships 1.000.000 and gets certified Platinum but then 250K copies are shipped back to the label these copies never get discounted at all on the RIAA who will always show that album as Platinum (1.000.000) even after the 250K copies that got shipped back.
This why SoundScan is often considered superior.
Both sources are credited as official tho. Just different systems.[/quote]
But what the lebel do with these copies when they copies back? Reciclyng?Comment
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Don't know.Originally posted by madboy1Rock lives forever: Led Zeppelin . Metallica . Pink Floyd . Nirvana . Radiohead . Pearl Jam . Oasis . Iron Maiden . Nine Inch Nails
Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . RihannaComment
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^Sold to discount stores. Rite Aid, Walgreens, Big Lots...
Then they are not counted with SoundScan when they are sold.
I saw Whitney's first 2 albums for $5 each yesterday at Big Lots.Comment
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An article that I think Wayne posted recently about what EMI did with 1 million unsold copies of Robbie William’s Rudebox:Originally posted by MrLeonix
http://www.nme.com/news/music/robbie-wi ... 88-1338919Comment
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Interesting read, thanks.Originally posted by nymphoRock lives forever: Led Zeppelin . Metallica . Pink Floyd . Nirvana . Radiohead . Pearl Jam . Oasis . Iron Maiden . Nine Inch Nails
Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . RihannaComment
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Through the 5/26 Billboard charts
Ray of Light
ALBUM SALES: 3.896,998
ALBUMS W/TEA 3,990,647
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 4,005,653
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 4,013,816 4xP
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 34,753,662
157 copies sold last weekComment
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Through the 5/26 Billboard charts
MUSIC
ALBUM SALES: 2,936,779
ALBUMS W/TEA 3,005,209
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 3,015,960
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 3,020,447 3xP
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 22,856,780Comment
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Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History
With 490.000 bmg + columbia sales. Rol will be 5platinun?Comment
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Did it really sell that through BMG and Columbia tho?
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Just wanted to say thanks for the data thebigham & Bojan! Much appreciated!!Comment
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It deserves much moreOriginally posted by thebighamComment
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Through the 5/26 Billboard charts:
SOMETHING TO REMEMBER
ALBUM SALES: 2,104,241
ALBUMS W/TEA 2,264,086
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 2,289,095
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 2,303,417 3xP
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 58,996,027Comment
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Decent weekly sales for RoL. Most likely her best selling catalog studio album
Edit: Never mind lol.Comment
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Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History
Like a Virgin 373 last week.Comment
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Wtf, that's too muchOriginally posted by lovedeluxe
What about totals?Comment
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BMG's number was released by BMG themselves, as for Columbia, figures were never released but we do know that Columbia House was at least 3 times bigger than BMG (it was the biggest music club in America by far back then) , so even if we double what an artist sold at BMG that would mean people are being conservative when giving estimates. That goes for all artists/albums sold there.Originally posted by BodyShopComment
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Um, it's not about that.Originally posted by BojanSome people are ready to blindly trust some random French MJ fan but are putting in question SoundScan numbers.
There is a reason thebigham and I say this is real. I never even spoke to thebigham but we are both well assured the numbers are real. We didn't take it for granted, without any kind of validation.
Thanks for sharing, thebigham.
First of all, you're acting like MJD is underestimating/overestimating albums by millions, when in fact he is the most credible source out there. His numbers are always close to the truth, and he actually provides info how he got to those numbers with sales breakdown.
He may have made mistake by few thousand copes, or sometimes a million (although I doubt it), but he is the most objective out there, and he is sure the better source than stans who are claiming that Music Box sold 32m or janet. 20m. (just an example.)
Btw, someone please explain these to me
ALBUMS W/TEA
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND
STREAMING ON-DEMANDComment
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Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History
Oh, Westen. If you only knew
I don't know who this MJD is... but trust that the source WE have is the best one you're going to get!
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So,is that 490k number that madboy posted for Ray of Light through BMG ,real?Originally posted by AndiIversen
And we could assume that the album sold another 1 million through Columbia ?
Witch means we could estimate its total to be around 5.5 million ? Comment
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But how do you explain the fact that TIC simply lost 2m copies?Originally posted by lovedeluxeOh, Westen. If you only knew I don't know who this MJD is... but trust that the source WE have is the best one you're going to get!
And i find it hard to believe that albums like Design of a decade have 300m-400m in streaming when we know her situation on Spotify, while Madonna's streaming is non existing and yet she's doing miiiiiiiles better on Spotify.
It's very fishy to me.Comment
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MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media trafficOriginally posted by lovedeluxeOh, Westen. If you only knew I don't know who this MJD is... but trust that the source WE have is the best one you're going to get! Comment
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-Album sales + Track Equivalent Sales. (10 tracks downloads = 1 album. For example, 1,000,000 copies of one song = 100k copies for the album)Originally posted by Westen
-Album sales + TEA + Audio streaming (1500 streams = 1 album)
-Album sales + TEA + Audio and video streams
-Total number of audio and video streams for that album in US
Example with Something to Remember figures:
ALBUM SALES: 2,104,241
ALBUMS W/TEA 2,264,086 -------> (2,264,086 - 2,104,241= 159,845 tracks sold from the album)
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 2,289,095 (2,289,095 - 2,264,086= 25,009 copies from audio streaming. 25,009 x 1,500= 37,513,500 audio streams in US)
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 2,303,417 (2,303,417 - 2,289,095= 14,322 from video streaming. 14,322 x 1,500= 21,483,000 video streams in US)
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 58,996,027 (37,513,500 audio streams in US + 21,483,000 video streams in US= 58,996,500 total streams)
(473 streams got lost somewhere...)Comment
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The top selling Madonna singles last week (5/26 Billboard charts):
1. Like a Prayer 612
2. Vogue 328
3. Into the Groove 319
4. Material Girl 318
5. La Isla Bonita 312Comment
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Thanks, that's very confusing tbh.
So video streaming from vevo has big factor in this too?Comment
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