Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

[nympho]

You also have to factor in Apple Music, Amazon etc. and if Vevo is included in that 66.1 million streams come just from 9 videos on DOAD. https://www.youtube.com/user/JanetJacksonVEVO/videos

Oh so Madonna has zero coming from that because none of her older videos were uploaded on vevo

Numbers are still fishy do, that's 66m overall, US numbers are less than that, added to that Spotify as the biggest service, and then smaller markets like apple, amazon and tidal it's still not possible to me that it's close to 400m.

Maybe nympho can explain it better.

No. Of course Madonna has video streams counted.

YouTube videos are counted as well. They don't need to be uploaded on VEVO (in fact I read yesterday that Vevo is closing, nobody uses it).
Several of her videos not uploaded to her Youtube channel were uploaded in Warner Music YouTube channel.
Only a few of her videos were missing from Youtube. (As I'm almost completely sure that user generated videos are not counted)

You're both making the thread really messy with these Janet comparisons… So I'm going to ask you to please stop it.

[Westen]

You also have to factor in Apple Music, Amazon etc. and if Vevo is included in that 66.1 million streams come just from 9 videos on DOAD. https://www.youtube.com/user/JanetJacksonVEVO/videos

Oh so Madonna has zero coming from that because none of her older videos were uploaded on vevo

Numbers are still fishy do, that's 66m overall, US numbers are less than that, added to that Spotify as the biggest service, and then smaller markets like apple, amazon and tidal it's still not possible to me that it's close to 400m.

Maybe nympho can explain it better.

No. Of course Madonna has video streams counted.

YouTube videos are counted as well. They don't need to be uploaded on VEVO (in fact I read yesterday that Vevo is closing, nobody uses it).
Several of her videos not uploaded to her Youtube channel were uploaded in Warner Music YouTube channel.
Only a few of her videos were missing from Youtube. (As I'm almost completely sure that user generated videos are not counted)

You're both making the thread really messy with these Janet comparisons… So I'm going to ask you to please stop it.

Ofc I talked about Vevo videos on youtube, not about vevo.com that was never even a thing.

[Neutral]

Thanks to everyone sharing these figures!

Sorry to ask here, but if you have any for Jennifer Lopez could you please post them in her thread? I'd love to see the totals for Love?, Dance Again... The Hits and A.K.A especially!

[nympho]

^
I know. Me too.
Vevo channels have disappeared from YouTube now, though. All artists have their different channels merged into one with their name, as VEVO is closing.

Anyway, as I said, it doesn't matter if her videos were uploaded to VEVO channel or to her regular Madonna YouTube channel, or to Warner Music YouTube channel. They're all official channels which views are counted for Soundscan and for RIAA purposes.

Regarding the user generated videos, I just checked RIAA website:
"Only official label/company videos count towards certification, User Generated Videos do not".

[Westen]

Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

So no more updates for the rest of her albums? I am the most curious about Celebration, I have no idea where it might be, is it good catalog seller or not.

Sold last week
1,741 The immaculate Collection
373 Like a Virgin
157 Ray of Light
68 American Life
49 Confessions on a Dance Floor
41 Rebel Heart
29 Bedtime Stories
26 MDNA
16 Hard Candy
* Music
* Something to Remember

*no info

[adriano]

Btw, someone please explain these to me
ALBUMS W/TEA
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND
STREAMING ON-DEMAND

-Album sales + Track Equivalent Sales. (10 tracks downloads = 1 album. For example, 1,000,000 copies of one song = 100k copies for the album)
-Album sales + TEA + Audio streaming (1500 streams = 1 album)
-Album sales + TEA + Audio and video streams
-Total number of audio and video streams for that album in US

Example with Something to Remember figures:

ALBUM SALES: 2,104,241
ALBUMS W/TEA 2,264,086 -------> (2,264,086 - 2,104,241= 159,845 tracks sold from the album)
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 2,289,095 (2,289,095 - 2,264,086= 25,009 copies from audio streaming. 25,009 x 1,500= 37,513,500 audio streams in US)
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 2,303,417 (2,303,417 - 2,289,095= 14,322 from video streaming. 14,322 x 1,500= 21,483,000 video streams in US)
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 58,996,027 (37,513,500 audio streams in US + 21,483,000 video streams in US= 58,996,500 total streams)
(473 streams got lost somewhere...)

Thank you!

[Petrie]

Thanks to everyone sharing these figures!

Sorry to ask here, but if you have any for Jennifer Lopez could you please post them in her thread? I'd love to see the totals for Love?, Dance Again... The Hits and A.K.A especially!

& for Beyoncé too, would be interesting and appreciated

[madboy1]

Thanks to everyone sharing these figures!

Sorry to ask here, but if you have any for Jennifer Lopez could you please post them in her thread? I'd love to see the totals for Love?, Dance Again... The Hits and A.K.A especially!

& for Beyoncé too, would be interesting and appreciated

First Madonna please.

[Bojan]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

[Westen]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

You're ignoring the fact that he doesn't make mistakes by millions, why are so hung up on discrediting his numbers? His work on Janet was totally on point.

[AlphaMale]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

You're ignoring the fact that he doesn't make mistakes by millions, why are so hung up on discrediting his numbers? His work on Janet was totally on point.

Here we go...

[wave]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

You're ignoring the fact that he doesn't make mistakes by millions, why are so hung up on discrediting his numbers? His work on Janet was totally on point.

He’s faker than fake snow, rude, doesn’t like people to contradict him and he’s just a normal person with his own sales estimates.

[Westen]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

You're ignoring the fact that he doesn't make mistakes by millions, why are so hung up on discrediting his numbers? His work on Janet was totally on point.

He’s faker than fake snow, rude, doesn’t like people to contradict him and he’s just a normal person with his own sales estimates.

His estimates are based on facts, known sales, year end charts, decade end charts, certifications, chart runs, market changes, press releases etc. If you can do a better job let's see you doing it. You sound like you've been hurt by low sales of your fave whoever it is that MJD analyzed. If you wanna believe in fake numbers that you read on stan forums go do it, if you wanna talk about real sales MJD is the best guy for that.

Someone quote me if i'm wrong, but ddn't Billboard once used his numbers few years ago?

[Bojan]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

You're ignoring the fact that he doesn't make mistakes by millions, why are so hung up on discrediting his numbers? His work on Janet was totally on point.

How do you know that? What are you basing your claims on?

[Westen]

And let's repeat...

MJD doesn't have the correct sales and never will have. It's just estimates, just like media traffic

The more info we get the more obvious this becomes.

You're ignoring the fact that he doesn't make mistakes by millions, why are so hung up on discrediting his numbers? His work on Janet was totally on point.

How do you know that? What are you basing your claims on?

What are you basing your opinion that he is off by millions? LOL

Being off sometime s by 100k-500k is nothing, labels probably couldn't give precise information either.

[Bojan]

I already explained my stance on Janet's sales and sales in general. I'm not here for inflated numbers. Chart success isn’t a measure of greatness and never will be, but taking his estimates as if he's an official source that can't be subjective, biased or simply make a mistake, is beyond my understanding. He's just one of us.

But let's back to Madonna. We're offtopic now.

[Westen]

I already explained my stance on Janet's sales and sales in general. I'm not here for inflated numbers. Chart success isn’t a measure of greatness and never will be, but taking his estimates as if he's an official source that can't be subjective, biased or simply make a mistake, is beyond my understanding. He's just one of us.

But let's back to Madonna. We're offtopic now.

For someone who 'doesn't care about sales and charts'you're arguing about them a lot. And no one is saying he is the official source, but he is the best, closets and the most objective source, and his numbers are based only on facts.

[Bojan]

I don't know Madonna's stats and I'm not willing to do a research now, so check my last posts in the Janet Jackson :: Charts & Sales thread. I don't want to be offtopic.

[madboy1]

please more info about the sales bojan / thbigham...

evita, erotica, ghv2, remixed and revisited, live albuns, celebration...

i want this so hard...

I not eat i not sleep...

[ferrero]

-Album sales + Track Equivalent Sales. (10 tracks downloads = 1 album. For example, 1,000,000 copies of one song = 100k copies for the album)
-Album sales + TEA + Audio streaming (1500 streams = 1 album)
-Album sales + TEA + Audio and video streams
-Total number of audio and video streams for that album in US

Example with Something to Remember figures:

ALBUM SALES: 2,104,241
ALBUMS W/TEA 2,264,086 -------> (2,264,086 - 2,104,241= 159,845 TEA-albums = 1,598,450 tracks sold from the album)
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 2,289,095 (2,289,095 - 2,264,086= 25,009 copies from audio streaming. 25,009 x 1,500= 37,513,500 audio streams in US)
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 2,303,417 (2,303,417 - 2,289,095= 14,322 from video streaming. 14,322 x 1,500= 21,483,000 video streams in US)
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 58,996,027 (37,513,500 audio streams in US + 21,483,000 video streams in US= 58,996,500 total streams)
(473 streams got lost somewhere...)

[hun]

please more info about the sales bojan / thbigham...

evita, erotica, ghv2, remixed and revisited, live albuns, celebration...

i want this so hard...

I not eat i not sleep...

Please eat and sleep

[BodyShop]

Oh,God ! I can't

[madboy1]

Oh,God ! I can't

[thebigham]

^Please stop over-posting in all these threads! Calm down. You're "flooding" all the diva threads.

[thebigham]

Slowly trickling in...

Through the 5/26 Billboard charts

GHV2 (Listed as Vol. 2- Greatest Hits)

ALBUM SALES: 1,397,910
ALBUMS W/TEA 1,635,757
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 1,669,544
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 1,689,370 1xP
STREAMING ON-DEMAND 80,419,758

4 copies sold last week
119 year to date