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  • britneyliam
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    Actually streams has nothing to do with the initial sales.
    People paid for Madonna’s albums because she’s popular at that time and the music is good.
    It also depended on whether they were willing and able to pay for that.

    Whitney’s debut album sold 3 million copies more than her second album.
    But her second album gets 500 million more streams than her debut album.

    Streaming reflects how many people are listening to the artists.

    For example, 2.54M views of her youtube views came from Brazil last week, only 1.01M views came from UK.

    She sold 23 million albums and millions of singles(over 30 million records) in UK but only six million albums in Brazil.

    How could you explain this? wowsignal14

    https://charts.youtube.com/artist/%2...T00%3A00%3A00Z

    Madonna was popular in Brazil during 80s and 90s, but the music market of Brazil was smaller than UK which resulted the lower sales comparing to UK.

    In streaming era, Brazil will certainly overtake UK due to the larger population


    Another case.
    https://charts.youtube.com/artist/%2Fm%2F04xrx

    Mariah carey was popular in Asia during 90s, She sold 20 million records in Japan.
    How many albums had she sold in Philippines?
    Less than 1 million copies.

    Last week 2.43M of her total Youtube views came from Philippines and only 475K views came from Japan.
    I know youtube is not popular in Japan,even if we take into account other streaming platforms, streams in Japan still won't be 20 times as much as the streams in Philippines.

    So stop wondering why madonna's streams are not good enough , she's doing decent on All platforms. That's enough.
    Last edited by britneyliam; Sun January 30, 2022, 11:00.

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  • britneylinda
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    Comparing Late Artists vs Alive and comparing Rock Male Artists to Female Pop Acts, yeah okay.

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  • Shadowplay
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    Originally posted by wowsignal14 View Post
    1. Whitney died in 2012, Madonna is alive.
    Whitney had “destroyed her image” big time before passing, same for George Michael, same for MJ, same for Amy.
    They passed and are now able to chart their GHs better than her, they became legendary.
    Madonna is still having fun on IG, better for her tbh. One day (I hope at 100) she will pass and start selling well on catalogue charts.

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  • Forreal
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    Oh Westen 2.0 version is back

    the thread is a mess again

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  • castorino
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    The problem with streaming is that it is for large part in the hands of a new generation of teenagers and 20-somethings who have only known the 2010s Madonna, with zero new hit songs and a lot of bad press and image mismanagement, so for the most part they are not willing to search and discover her catalogue on Spotify.

    As for the Whitney comparison, you should also factor in her premature death, which in my opinion gives her a boost in post-mortem popularity . Still, I agree with wowsignal14's point that Madonna's streams could be so much better. We're talking about someone who was called "The Queen of Pop".
    Last edited by castorino; Sun January 30, 2022, 07:59.

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  • music126
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    Originally posted by Hex View Post

    Their main point is that Madonna's catalogue is doing poorly in all formats. The fact that Madonna and Whitney basically have the same streaming numbers on spotify is great for Whitney but bad for Madonna. If Madonna's catalogue had the same performance as Whitney (basically adjusted for the size of their respective catalogues), she would have 6.28 billion streams. Which is far from where she is. And that has to do with poor management but also Madonna's own behavior since about 2010 or so, particularly on social media, which has even repulsed longtime fans who stuck with her for decades.
    This makes even less sense. I don't understand what some of you except with her streaming numbers.

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  • HardGrammy
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    God Whitney Houston is no longer with us, dead artists do FAR better than alive ones. Rock artists do thousand times better than female acts. Let's not forget what Whitney's reputation was before she died. Madonna is doing fine, there's room for improvement and I am sure we all are aware of it, but to say she is doing poorly and being "destroyed" is surface level. Most of the streams stem from playlisting anyway, easy to playlist when some artists' careers rely on one or two hits than dozens like her.

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  • Hex
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    Originally posted by music126 View Post
    I don't even understand the point wowsignal14 is trying to make.
    Their main point is that Madonna's catalogue is doing poorly in all formats. The fact that Madonna and Whitney basically have the same streaming numbers on spotify is great for Whitney but bad for Madonna. If Madonna's catalogue had the same performance as Whitney (basically adjusted for the size of their respective catalogues), she would have 6.28 billion streams. Which is far from where she is. And that has to do with poor management but also Madonna's own behavior since about 2010 or so, particularly on social media, which has even repulsed longtime fans who stuck with her for decades.

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  • music126
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    I don't even understand the point wowsignal14 is trying to make.

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  • HardGrammy
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    Sure let's compare a female pop artist to male rock artists streams wise

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  • wowsignal14
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    [QUOTE=wowsignal14;n10814606]

    Last edited by wowsignal14; Thu February 3, 2022, 23:02.

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  • Forreal
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    Like A Prayer ( The Mastepiece) just hit 200mil on YouTube…….

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  • upushme
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    Madonna 2012 Super Bowl Halftime Show is increasing its daily views:

    19.01.2022 +25.676
    20.01.2022 +26.976
    21.01.2022 +30.363
    22.01.2022 +32.532
    23.01.2022 +33.593
    24.01.2022 +33.927
    25.01.2022 +35.906
    26.01.2022 +36.275
    27.01.2022 +37.710
    28.01.2022 +38.915
    It's expected to hit 20 million views next week, and I also expect it to catch last year's record: 338.199 views in a day.
    (Super Bowl 56 will be played on Feb 13th.)



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  • upushme
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    Madame X on Spotify

    21.01.2022 194.001.615 +54.885
    22.01.2022 194.058.110 +56.495
    23.01.2022 194.107.706 +49.596
    24.01.2022 194.157.829 +50.123
    25.01.2022 194.210.594 +52.765
    26.01.2022 194.264.822 +54.228
    27.01.2022 194.318.834 +54.012

    28.01.2022 194.376.372 +57.538

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  • autumnwind
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    Originally posted by Forreal View Post

    Whitney to my knowledge is the only one who has better streams.
    Thats not true. Fix your prejudice.

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  • autumnwind
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    Originally posted by UnapologeticKenny View Post
    Frozen (Sickick Remix) on Spotify

    Spoiler!


    DATE: TotalStreams (DailyGain) %±YD [%±LW]

    21/01/22: 14,286,880 (+460,178) +8,16% [+4,24%]
    22/01/22: 14,736,626 (+449,746) -2,26% [+4,14%]
    23/01/22: 15,134,076 (+397,450) -11,62% [+4,08%]
    24/01/22: 15,578,029 (+443,953) +11,70% [+6,43%]
    25/01/22: 16,028,844 (+450,815) +1,54% [+6,89%]
    26/01/22: 16,483,757 (+454,913) +0,90% [+5,89%]
    27/01/22: 16,944,954 (+461,197) +1,38% [+8,40%]

    28/01/22: 17,434,534 (+489,580) +6,15% [+6,39%] *NEW PEAK*
    ___

    Official Spotify Charts:

    #78 Finland (-3) - 10,238
    #112 Germany (-29) - 91,264
    #142 Austria (-23) - 6,280
    #133 Lithuania (+25) - 1,414

    I think this is it .

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    Apple Music:

    #78 Lithuania (+3)
    #119 Czech Republic (-6)
    #133 Serbia (NE)
    #148 Cyprus (NE)
    #149 Germany (-10)
    #153 Austria (=)
    #163 Turkey (+9)
    #165 Slovakia (+25)
    #168 Latvia (-18)
    #179 Seychelles (+11)
    #193 Bulgaria (NE)
    #194 France (NE)
    #196 Romania (NE)
    new peak. Sweet

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  • BodyShop
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    Originally posted by UnapologeticKenny View Post
    #83 Germany (=) - 81,805 (the same numbers of yesterday... not sure if it's right, so I'll check a few minutes later again)
    Yes ,they changed the day but hasnt refreshed the numbers yet.

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  • UnapologeticKenny
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    Originally posted by BodyShop View Post

    17,620,680 (-344k)
    Expected but still brutal

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  • BodyShop
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    Originally posted by BodyShop View Post

    17,964,842 (-9.9k)
    Next few days wont be pretty I guess
    17,620,680 (-344k)

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  • UnapologeticKenny
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    Frozen (Sickick Remix) on Spotify

    Spoiler!


    DATE: TotalStreams (DailyGain) %±YD [%±LW]

    21/01/22: 14,286,880 (+460,178) +8,16% [+4,24%]
    22/01/22: 14,736,626 (+449,746) -2,26% [+4,14%]
    23/01/22: 15,134,076 (+397,450) -11,62% [+4,08%]
    24/01/22: 15,578,029 (+443,953) +11,70% [+6,43%]
    25/01/22: 16,028,844 (+450,815) +1,54% [+6,89%]
    26/01/22: 16,483,757 (+454,913) +0,90% [+5,89%]
    27/01/22: 16,944,954 (+461,197) +1,38% [+8,40%]

    28/01/22: 17,434,534 (+489,580) +6,15% [+6,39%] *NEW PEAK*
    ___

    Official Spotify Charts:

    #78 Finland (-3) - 10,238
    #112 Germany (-29) - 91,264
    #142 Austria (-23) - 6,280
    #133 Lithuania (+25) - 1,414

    I think this is it .

    ___

    Apple Music:

    #78 Lithuania (+3)
    #119 Czech Republic (-6)
    #133 Serbia (NE)
    #148 Cyprus (NE)
    #149 Germany (-10)
    #153 Austria (=)
    #163 Turkey (+9)
    #165 Slovakia (+25)
    #168 Latvia (-18)
    #179 Seychelles (+11)
    #193 Bulgaria (NE)
    #194 France (NE)
    #196 Romania (NE)
    Last edited by UnapologeticKenny; Sat January 29, 2022, 18:23.

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Forreal View Post

    Whitney to my knowledge is the only one who has better streams.
    Not anymore. Her spotify managment is improving and she already ahead of Whitney.
    If Warner do their job making sure more Madonna songs make the right playlists she will improve even more.
    This remix project may be the key for a new generation discover Madonna songs.

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  • likeidogoldlink
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    Originally posted by Forreal View Post

    Whitney to my knowledge is the only one who has better streams.
    Madonna - 3,990,772,976 + 125,493,642
    Whitney - 3,962,951,840 + 11,461,388

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  • britneylinda
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    Originally posted by Forreal View Post

    Whitney to my knowledge is the only one who has better streams.
    The thing is that Madonna doesn't have a song which is overshadowing the others, this is how streaming is working. Whitney has heavy streams from one song 'I will always love you' let's be grateful Madge actually have multiple and who knew streaming will take over the world, her playlisting is also mediocre. She won't have 20B streams - Taylor for example has released more than 5 projects in 2 years meaning around 80 songs so of course she will see jump if Madge also does that she will also have big jump not like Taylor etc of course but will jump. Fans needs to stop worrying, she's doing great and obsession with streaming doesn't make sense seeing a lot of countries don't have any SPS unit thing to begin with so those streaming is just giving money to the artist not any units. She's doing great and she'll always do great
    Last edited by britneylinda; Sat January 29, 2022, 16:43.

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by wowsignal14 View Post

    Madonna is nowhere near a streaming force, if anything she bombs on Streaming. her songs streams are utterly terrible considering how huge they initially were
    You're right, she is not a streaming force compared to today artists (especially artists that started after mid 00's or in the 10's) but comparing to artist that started during the 80's and even in the 90's she is doing well.

    Her new digital catalog still needs a lot of improvement and hopefully Warner are starting to fix the mess it is right now (especially in streaming services and YouTube videos).

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  • Forreal
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    Originally posted by likeidogoldlink View Post

    What? No woman who made her debut before 1990 has more streams than Madonna. Have some respect for the Queen of Pop.
    Whitney to my knowledge is the only one who has better streams.

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