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I think it might be faster for Crazy For You, as it usually gets nice numbers around Valentine's Day! -
1/22 Spotify update:
These two will be crossing 200 million in 5-6 weeks:
4 Minutes 195,124,244
La Isla Bonita 194,641,754
I've been tracking these 4 songs because they will pass B.itch I'm Madonna. 2 have:
Papa Don't Preach 80,420,957
Into the Groove 79,258,663
B.itch I'm Madonna 77,852,116
Frozen 76,999,715 - in 3 weeks
Crazy for You 74,665,441 - 12-13 weeks?
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SPOTIFY UPDATE - 14/01/22 ~ 20/01/22
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FOLLOWERS: 5,761,144 (+22,007)
MONTHLY LISTENERS: 17,816,758 (+207,232) - #226 (+12)
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TOTAL STREAMS (LEAD): 3,972,874,454 (+18,942,014 / %± LW: +3,94%)
TOTAL STREAMS (WITH FEATS): 4,098,050,011 (+19,358,470 / %± LW: +3,90%)
..# ALBUM WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS 01 (+1) Confessions on a Dance Floor 2,154,661 4.07% 368,775,762 02 (-1) True Blue 2,130,086 2.83% 394,878,240 03 (=) Like A Virgin 2,097,446 2.90% 495,539,760 04 (=) Like A Prayer 1,546,662 3.76% 356,834,900 05 (=) Hard Candy 1,090,010 6.39% 265,245,580 06 (=) Ray of Light 965,382 3.01% 193,163,938 07 (=) Madonna 894,909 3.31% 224,017,036 08 (=) I'm Breathless 690,643 4.30% 172,703,432 09 (=) Music 553,241 1.31% 137,983,847 10 (=) Rebel Heart 375,154 2.85% 248,783,878 11 (=) Madame X 364,332 2.68% 193,946,730 12 (=) Bedtime Stories 326,299 2.93% 77,089,209 13 (=) MDNA 285,003 3.63% 124,780,494 14 (=) American Life 225,462 1.89% 70,333,980 15 (=) Erotica 185,490 1.25% 51,185,720 PS.: Streams from compilation versions and radio edits are merged with the original song's totals# SONG WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS 01 (=) Frozen - Sickick Remix 2,948,414 9.74% 13,826,702 02 (=) Hung Up 1,551,971 4.14% 232,588,243 03 (=) Like a Prayer 1,214,320 4.72% 272,906,976 04 (=) La Isla Bonita 1,133,257 3.44% 194,641,754 05 (=) Material Girl 1,110,855 2.62% 249,260,446 06 (+1) 4 Minutes 857,409 6.91% 195,124,244 07 (-1) Like a Virgin 840,325 3.22% 207,088,222 08 (=) Vogue 653,715 3.77% 164,299,877 09 (=) Holiday 514,404 1.19% 127,908,483 10 (=) Frozen 501,601 2.52% 76,999,715 11 (=) Papa Don't Preach 421,611 2.15% 80,420,957 12 (=) Into the Groove 398,632 -1.86% 79,258,663 13 (=) Crazy for You 376,632 2.64% 74,665,441 14 (=) Sorry 259,653 3.97% 50,235,606 15 (=) Music 204,463 2.05% 52,761,880 16 (=) Live to Tell 185,986 2.58% 38,152,264 17 (=) Take a Bow 179,232 1.84% 36,403,579 18 (=) Bitch I'm Madonna 177,591 5.00% 77,852,116 19 (=) Ray of Light 172,863 4.23% 45,848,792 20 (=) Borderline 172,662 4.47% 40,353,177 21 (+1) American Pie 168,973 3.93% 35,888,288 22 (-1) Express Yourself 162,454 -0.67% 41,853,740 23 (=) True Blue 159,162 1.75% 27,091,050 24 (+2) Lucky Star 143,808 9.60% 30,711,009 25 (-1) Open Your Heart 143,085 2.28% 35,238,469 26 (-1) The Power of Good-Bye 135,571 2.56% 29,051,498 27 (=) Give It 2 Me 131,177 3.63% 30,515,917 28 (=) Jump 128,021 3.43% 25,744,204 29 (=) Girl Gone Wild 124,294 3.85% 37,515,027 30 (+1) Medellín 100,358 3.92% 61,842,706
PS2.: No remixes are counted for the songs' or album' totals, with the exception of the ones originally released in the album tracklisting (Madonna, LAV, TB, MDNA and RH).
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Some milestones:
* Papa Don't Preach - 80 million (Album/TIC)
* Sorry - 50 million (Album/Celebration)
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I am well aware of how she was boycotted by radio in America dur to her political speech against Bush and everything that came after that in America.
i have 2 things to say:
1) it didnt "kill" her career in the United States. It kiled her radio support. Biggest proof of this is how Hung Up peaked at #7 on the Hot 100 despite being played nowhere.
2) My point here is not to debate why American Life flopped. I'm only sharing my view on why it's a waste of time to try to make its singles visible to the public because they deserve some kind of justice..
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Madame X LIVE on Spotify
07.01.2022 4.063.572 +12.810
08.01.2022 4.075.635 +12.063
09.01.2022 4.085.900 +10.265
10.01.2022 4.097.643 +11.743
11.01.2022 4.109.243 +11.600
12.01.2022 4.121.466 +12.223
13.01.2022 4.134.579 +13.000
14.01.2022 4.148.012 +13.433
15.01.2022 4.160.064 +12.052
16.01.2022 4.170.417 +10.353
17.01.2022 4.181.878 +11.461
18.01.2022 4.193.894 +12.016
19.01.2022 4.206.388 +12.494
20.01.2022 4.218.902 +12.514
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Madame X on Spotify
07.01.2022 193.282.597 +55.008
08.01.2022 193.336.645 +54.048
09.01.2022 193.383.391 +46.746
10.01.2022 193.430.468 +47.077
11.01.2022 193.479.212 +48.744
12.01.2022 193.529.965 +50.753
13.01.2022 193.582.398 +52.433
14.01.2022 193.638.366 +55.968
15.01.2022 193.697.295 +58.929
16.01.2022 193.742.234 +44.939
17.01.2022 193.791.121 +48.887
18.01.2022 193.841.868 +50.747
19.01.2022 193.893.569 +51.701
20.01.2022 193.946.730 +53.161Leave a comment:
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Yes, but airplay was important and counted for charts. Moreover, Madonna bashing reached a climax, as the singer was seen unamerican, after her statements against Bush. It killed her career. We saw that with Hung Up. Huge everywhere in the world, but not on American radio, despite decent sales. And by the way, she was no longe living in America. Those were the Guy Ritchie years.Originally posted by MadNuno View PostLeave a comment:
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Frozen (Sickick Remix) on Spotify
Spoiler!
DATE: TotalStreams (DailyGain) %±YD [%±LW]
07/01/22: 8,571,061 (+379,421) +8,38% [+13,39%]
08/01/22: 8,943,328 (+372,267) -1,88% [+48,78%]
09/01/22: 9,286,746 (+343,418) -7,75% [+21,91%]
10/01/22: 9,677,460 (+390,714) +13,77% [+22,10%]
11/01/22: 10,066,997 (+389,537) -0,30% [+19,86%]
12/01/22: 10,465,826 (+398,829) +2,38% [+16,93%]
13/01/22: 10,878,288 (+412,462) +3,42% [+17,82%]
14/01/22: 11,319,743 (+441,455) +7,03% [+16,34%]
15/01/22: 11,751,585 (+431,842) -2,18% [+16,00%]
16/01/22: 12,132,838 (+381,253) -11,71% [+11,01%]
17/01/22: 12,549,950 (+417,112) +9,40% [+6,75%]
18/01/22: 12,971,686 (+421,736) +1,10% [+8,26%]
19/01/22: 13,401,266 (+429,580) +1,86% [+7,71%]
20/01/22: 13,826,702 (+425,436) -0,96% [+3,14%]
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Official Spotify Charts:
#51 Finland (-7) - 11,879
#106 Germany (+8) - 69,534
#121 Lithuania (+9) - 1,366
#143 Austria (+19) - 5,265
#160 Norway (-16) - 9,294
#160 Sweden (-14) - 17,746
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Apple Music:
#70 Lithuania (-28)
#105 Czech Republic (+12)
#133 Slovakia (+16)
#151 Austria (=)
#159 Germany (-8)
#184 Serbia (NE)
#197 Bermuda (-2)
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Deezer:
#72 Austria (+21)
#76 Ireland (NE)
#94 Sweden (-16)Leave a comment:
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Of course! For those who don't know they own directly or undirectly over 70% of American Radios so they can control almost all US airplay if they want to.Originally posted by ChallengeMe View Post
Cutting off Madonna almost completly off their radios was easy for them to do but it was impossible to cut Madonna of most other media and music shops.Leave a comment:
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Hollywood didn't get help from the VMAs cause it was completely overshadowed by the performance and the kiss. Same thing with Eurovision. Meanwhile Super Bowl was focused only in the artistic etc. aspect of the show, and had no controversy.Leave a comment:
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For those able to read French, here is my analysis of Madonna's single charts in France, a bit long (so many singles), but I hope that it will please you. I tried to refer to American and British charts as well. Enjoy the reading.
And obviously I did mention the cancel culture episode that Madonna went through when she took side against Bush's War in Iraq and when Fox News made its best to have her cancelled. They succeeded on American radio. That's why BodyShop the American Life album flopped so much, including its Hollywood single.
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I suspect the Xmas drop off will be 28 days from 25th December, with the NYE drop off coming 28th/29th January.Leave a comment:
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Worldwide iTunes Song Chart
#32 (-3) Madonna & Sickick - Frozen (peak #21)
European iTunes Song Chart
#24 (-1) Madonna & Sickick - Frozen (peak #16)Leave a comment:
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UK Charts:
Sales Singles Chart
98 (74) Frozen (Sickick Remix) - 5 weeks
Download Singles Chart
95 (67) Frozen (Sickick Remix) - 5 weeks
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I know, but the SPS numbers thebigham posts are for the US, hence why I wrote about that market.Originally posted by MadNuno View Post
But, reagrdless of that, I stand by what I said. Why spend so much time,money and energy on flopped songs? Or a flopped album?
"Great" and "Amazing" are subjective to anyone's taste (I, for one, dislike most of American Life's songs - I cant *stand* Love Profusion for example...)
Fact is the album is among her least popular ones and,imo, Warner should heavily focus on her super famous albums and songs.
Am I saying everything else should be ignored? No.
All I'm saying is that there's no point in trying to revive something that flopped greatly in the past nowadays, when things are even harder.
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American Life is my favourite Madonna song and Madonna album. The way the world slept on it is criminal and no wonder she felt uninspired afterwards.Leave a comment:
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US is a very important market but US is not the world.Originally posted by BodyShop View Post
I mean 330 million people live there in a planet with 8 billion people.
"Hollywood" was #03 on European Hot 100 Chart (that had countries that summed up over 600 million people at the time) and was also #05 in Canada - peaked TOP 20 in most World Countries including also Australia.
Sure that despite peaking #02 in UK the single didn't sell much and had a huge fall but didn't flop either.
Problem in US was the radio airplay as the song was not played by radios. Was the song released after the American Life video premiered.
Failed the TOP 100 airplay. Yet many people got the maxi single (there was still no iTunes at the time but was #04 on Single sales and #01 on maxi-single sales). It was only released on a maxi-single sold at $7.99 or $8.99. Probably if iTunes was already a thing at the time it would have been different.
Could it have had better sales at the time? Probably but despite "Hollywood" was performed so was "Like a Virgin" and that was the song that stick at the time in people's head. The performace certainly increased all Madonna discography and as "Hollywood" was not played at radios many people probably only listen to it at the performance (and at MTV network music channels where the video was also played).
"Hollywood" video still plays regulary in European music chanels like MTV 00's, VH1 or MCM Pop (among others).
The same for "Love Profusion" that despite failling the US HOT 100 and didn't go TOP 20 in European Hot 100 (because was released and peaked in different months along European countries - some in early December 2003 and others only in February 2004) was still #01 of sales and airplay in Spain and was both sales and airplay TOP 10 Hit in many European countries. In Canada peaked #03. In Italy was even the 30º Most successful song of 2004 in the country (Top 10 of the year for english speaking artists). Sure was not one of Madonna biggest hits of all time but the song have potential.
Did the comercial with the song was played only in Europe or was it played in US too? I'ts an American brand so probably played in US TV too..
Love Profusion was also only released as maxi-single and was also #01 on maxi-single sales. Sure it ain't much record labels were withdrawing singles as didn't got much profit from them and pushing maxi-singles and album sales that gave them huge profits. Warner probably would have to sell 10 times more singles compared the maxi-singles numbers they sold to get the same kind of profit.Leave a comment:
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I think there's no point in doing so.Originally posted by MadNuno View Post
That's really low for those amazing songs.
They could never wake up "American Life" album or songs... if any of those was just used on an hit serie or movie would work wonder SPS for both song and album
They all need to rethink the strategy as they not only need to remind people of her huge hits but also remind them also she had amazing songs that didn't got to be heard due to political reasons (and radio boycott). Some people will still remember "Love Profusion" as it still played on TV music channels.
Some songs are low and will remain low forever.
Madonna performed Hollywood in what was probably the most talked about perfomance of the decade in America.
Still,people didnt move a finger to buy neither the single nor the album.
Hollywood didn't even reach the Hot 100 as everyone knows.
When she performed at the Superbowl, her whole catalogue had a huge boost on the US iTunes (back when iTunes was "THE" ish) and several of her albums charted on the Billboard 200 in the following week... well, all but American Life lol
They simply don't like the album,it's a fact.
Most importantly,it's impossible to try to make the whole world notice songs from the past for an artist like Madonna, with such a montruous catalogue .
Not only impossible,it's pointless.
What Warner needs to do is to capitalize on her most important and well known songs and albums to make her known among those who only remotely heard of her because of their parents, to remind those who,for whatever reason, don't remember how many great songs she had in the past and to make those who once were fans, remember why did they fall in love with her in the past...Last edited by BodyShop; Fri January 21, 2022, 17:13.Leave a comment:
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That's really low for those amazing songs.Originally posted by thebigham View Post
They could never wake up "American Life" album or songs... if any of those was just used on an hit serie or movie would work wonder SPS for both song and album
They all need to rethink the strategy as they not only need to remind people of her huge hits but also remind them also she had amazing songs that didn't got to be heard due to political reasons (and radio boycott). Some people will still remember "Love Profusion" as it still played on TV music channels.Leave a comment:
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From the American Life album...
Nothing Fails SPS: 20,000
Love Profusion SPS: 31,000
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New peaks in Germany and Austria for Frozen Remix
Streams Daily #51 -7 
FinlandStreams Daily #106 +8 
GermanyStreams Daily #121 +9 
LithuaniaStreams Daily #143 +19 
AustriaStreams Daily #160 -16 
NorwayStreams Daily #160 -14 
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The proportion is wrong for charts but for certification purposes is even worst.
How can 1 physical single, 1 maxi-single, 1 download and 1 streaming equivalent count the same when pices may vary 10 to 100 times bettween them?
They used to count double albums twice for certificaitons because double CD albums were priced almost double from regular 1 cd albums.
The criteria changed completly so they could favoured new artists (record labels want to push new artists) but doesn't show the real market anymore in the long run as we can see on sales charts when people have to pay for a record they not always do it but some fans of young artists still do it (look at BTS, Taylor Swift or Adele or even Ed Sheeran sales among others - they would be ahead of the so called streaming artists if this was done right).
The so-called "bubble gum" artists don't sell much.
Will the US re-certifications be enough for Madonna to leapfrog to TOP 5? Seems hard but not impossible.Last edited by MadNuno; Fri January 21, 2022, 10:54.Leave a comment:
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they should consider a physical sale as ten record units, at this point. one thing is buying a £30 LP (this is what I paid for “30” crystal clear vinyl, for the ltd vinyl of “Voyage”, or for the MX Cd+cassette+7” package), another thing is to stream Levitating after listening to it on TikTokLeave a comment:
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