Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

[Hex]

Probably that may happen after her bio-pic film come out like it happened to Queen. We never know. It will much depend on promotion they do to her songs and how they promote the movie. What I've heard is that her movie it's about her life until early 90's only - so only hits from that period would be featured and see Streaming boosts.

If the film is successful enough they will most likely do a sequel (like they want to do for Freddy Mercury/Queen bio-pic). Most non-disclosure agreements are 10 to 20 years so the second film may end with "Superbowlt" to include"Hung Up", her Guy Richie divorce and "American Life backlash" (and be released on 2030) - by then her later 90's and 00's may have a streaming surge as well.

Elton John had an increase also after his movie but not as big. It will all depend on how good that film really is and how will do at Box Office.

When Madonna is dies her streams will also increase brutally like we have never seen before. People will remember and celebrate her as they do with all dead artists. She will also be much more explored by Record Companies that only have a catalog to manage (and some unreleased tracks) as new music can't be done. It happens to everybody but there wasn't anyone as big as her to die since Michael Jackson passed.

Honestly, I don't see the movie doing much for her at all. There has been so much written about her and she was really the first celebrity of her kind. She lived her life very publicly and she is known for that. I think the majority of the public is just tired of her. She was A list in the public eye through three decades--80s, 90s and 00s. I don;'t think any other pop star ever mantained that kind of success via new music like she did. And she did it while being older than her competition. But now, the public is just tired of her. I do think her death will improve her streams, not to Michael Jackson levels, but still better than she's doing now.

[Hex]

Madonna's version has 7M plays on spotify. There are at least three versions over 100M (Eartha Kitt, Ariana Grande, Kylie), so I would say Madonna's might not even make the top 10 but I'm not going to check all the other songs to find out



I've always thought the streaming numbers for her 80s hits were a bit lower because the music is just so dated to the 80s. So people only listen to it when they are in the mood for nostalgia, or having an 80s party or whatever. Whereas songs like Hung Up are still fun and fresh to listen to at any time, so I'm not surprised to see it as her top gaining song. I also think Frozen is a good example of a timeless song that isn't dated. Other than those two, most of her catalogue doesn't sound fresh enough listen to unless you are specifically in the mood for nostalgia.

I'e heard a lot of people say Madonna's 80s singles are dated but I don't really think they are. Maybe I'm biased but I just don't hear that. Yes, the ALBUMS are dated but not the classic singles like Holiday, La Isla Bonita, Live to Tell, Like a Prayer, etc. I don't see how these singles have aged worse than, say, the singles from Thriller or Bad. Those singles sound just as "80s" as Madonna's hits.

[catch22]

I'e heard a lot of people say Madonna's 80s singles are dated but I don't really think they are. Maybe I'm biased but I just don't hear that. Yes, the ALBUMS are dated but not the classic singles like Holiday, La Isla Bonita, Live to Tell, Like a Prayer, etc. I don't see how these singles have aged worse than, say, the singles from Thriller or Bad. Those singles sound just as "80s" as Madonna's hits.

Michael really only has two songs that are much much higher than Madonna's biggest songs, and those are Billie Jean and Beat it, which both have more of a rock/funk production. His 80s sound is not like Madonna's pure pop 80s sound. That's my theory at least.

[thebigham]

Thanks to SoulSista!

Billboard Top 10 Flashbacks:

December 15, 1990

01 01 Because I Love You (The Postman Song) - Stevie B. (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 03 From a Distance - Bette Midler
03 02 I'm Your Baby Tonight - Whitney Houston
04 10 Justify My Love - Madonna
05 07 Impulsive - Wilson Phillips
06 08 The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB40
07 09 Tom's Diner - DNA feat. Suzanne Vega
08 04 Something To Believe In - Poison
09 12 Freedom 90 - George Michael
10 11 High Enough - Damn Yankees


December 16, 1995

01 01 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (3rd of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston
03 03 Hey Lover - LL Cool J feat. Boyz II Men
04 04 Fantasy - Mariah Carey
05 05 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V.
06 08 You'll See - Madonna
07 06 Diggin' On You - TLC
08 07 You Remind Me Of Something - R. Kelly
09 09 Name - The Goo Goo Dolls
10 10 Runaway - Janet Jackson


December 10, 2005

01 01 Run It! - Chris Brown (3rd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx
03 03 My Humps - The Black Eyed Peas
04 06 Laffy Taffy - D4L
05 04 Soul Survivor - Young Jeezy feat. Akon
06 05 Photograph - Nickelback
07 07 Hung Up - Madonna
08 10 Stickwitu - The Pussycat Dolls
09 08 We Be Burnin' - Sean Paul

[oneofone]

stop comparing her to new acts

Please point me in direction of the section of my post in which I compared Madonna or her streaming to any act, new or old?

[music126]

Probably that may happen after her bio-pic film come out like it happened to Queen. We never know. It will much depend on promotion they do to her songs and how they promote the movie. What I've heard is that her movie it's about her life until early 90's only - so only hits from that period would be featured and see Streaming boosts.

If the film is successful enough they will most likely do a sequel (like they want to do for Freddy Mercury/Queen bio-pic). Most non-disclosure agreements are 10 to 20 years so the second film may end with "Superbowlt" to include"Hung Up", her Guy Richie divorce and "American Life backlash" (and be released on 2030) - by then her later 90's and 00's may have a streaming surge as well.

Elton John had an increase also after his movie but not as big. It will all depend on how good that film really is and how will do at Box Office.

When Madonna is dies her streams will also increase brutally like we have never seen before. People will remember and celebrate her as they do with all dead artists. She will also be much more explored by Record Companies that only have a catalog to manage (and some unreleased tracks) as new music can't be done. It happens to everybody but there wasn't anyone as big as her to die since Michael Jackson passed.

I don't think the film ends early 90's as Evita seemed to be a big part of the screenplay and that was happening around 1996.

[Bad_Bobby2009]

Her legacy needs a damage control. And her career needs an actual manager...

[HardGrammy]

Please point me in direction of the section of my post in which I compared Madonna or her streaming to any act, new or old?

When did I say I was talking about you?

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Bitch I'm Madonna got two viral tweets dragging it and now RH rose on iTunes... lmao

[upushme]

Santa Baby on Spotify

27.11.2020 6.904.776 +12.527
28.11.2020 6.919.603 +14.827
29.11.2020 6.935.103 +15.500
30.11.2020 6.946.726 +11.623
01.12.2020 6.960.809 +14.083
02.12.2020 6.974.514 +13.705
03.12.2020 6.989.320 +14.806

04.12.2020 7.005.533 +16.213
05.12.2020 7.027.574 +22.041
06.12.2020 7.049.444 +21.870

[Choley]

SPS estimations for some of her hits

[MadNuno]

I don't think the film ends early 90's as Evita seemed to be a big part of the screenplay and that was happening around 1996.

If that's the case it may end with her winning the Golden Globe as Best Actress or her daugher birth (and there is only a second film later)...
Now I'm not sure of anything anymore

This film is really being anticipated and most people from 10 to 100 are curious to see the movie. Some to know what secrets will be revelead and as a reminder of old times and many new kids because they are intrigued with Madonna as many hear a lot about her but know little (and media will probably be all over this movie if promotion go finally right!).

[MadNuno]

SPS estimations for some of her hits

These sales estimation seem all SUPER LOW in total and for OTS even more (There are a lot of countries missing there... really A LOT!)

I mean... even MEDIATRAFFIC have higher numbers for both "Like a Prayer" and "Hung Up" without Streaming that are over a decade old based on pure sales when the songs were charting

http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

Does someone have better estimations?

[Choley]

These sales estimation seem all SUPER LOW in total and for OTS even more (There are a lot of countries missing there... really A LOT!)

I mean... even MEDIATRAFFIC have higher numbers for both "Like a Prayer" and "Hung Up" without Streaming that are over a decade old based on pure sales when the songs were charting

http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

Does someone have better estimations?

Those mediatraffic numbers are points not sales

[music126]

Santa Baby on Spotify

27.11.2020 6.904.776 +12.527
28.11.2020 6.919.603 +14.827
29.11.2020 6.935.103 +15.500
30.11.2020 6.946.726 +11.623
01.12.2020 6.960.809 +14.083
02.12.2020 6.974.514 +13.705
03.12.2020 6.989.320 +14.806

04.12.2020 7.005.533 +16.213
05.12.2020 7.027.574 +22.041
06.12.2020 7.049.444 +21.870

Video hits 50,000 today. Only needs 56,000 more to make the Youtube list at Kworb, #272 to be exact.

[MadNuno]

Those mediatraffic numbers are points not sales

All sales with streaming today are "points" or "equivalent sales" as in some countries for certifications purposes 100 streams is 1 song sales but in others 150 streams are 1 song sale... and in the future who knows. One thing are sales, other are certifications... and other are streams (that in no way are sales despite giving labels some money).

A song would probably need to have over 2000 strreams to generate as much dollars as 1 real sales generates (as that stream always count twice for both singles and albums charts/certifications).

[MadNuno]

And for albums the same. In some countries 1000 streams are 1 album and in others 2000 streams is 1 album.

[Angeman]

All sales with streaming today are "points" or "equivalent sales" as in some countries for certifications purposes 100 streams is 1 song sales but in others 150 streams are 1 song sale... and in the future who knows. One thing are sales, other are certifications... and other are streams (that in no way are sales despite giving labels some money).

A song would probably need to have over 2000 strreams to generate as much dollars as 1 real sales generates (as that stream always count twice for both singles and albums charts/certifications).

What? Mediatraffic uses airplay and sales as a point system. It always has for songs. It has nothing to do with equivalent sales.

[MadNuno]

What? Mediatraffic uses airplay and sales as a point system. It always has for songs. It has nothing to do with equivalent sales.

They use OFFICIAL CHART and sales from all around the world so all sales only (and streams now too) except for US Billboard HOT 100 that uses airplay on the Official chart as have always used.

During the 00's they used to say SALES UNITS and not POINTS. They only changed after streaming era (they methodology have been chaging along the time but all older songs those points are sales only - including "Like a Prayer" and "Hung Up"..

[Shego]

Video hits 50,000 today. Only needs 56,000 more to make the Youtube list at Kworb, #272 to be exact.

what video?

[upushme]

what video?

He means the audio video:

[Angeman]

They use OFFICIAL CHART and sales from all around the world so all sales only (and streams now too) except for US Billboard HOT 100 that uses airplay on the Official chart as have always used.

During the 00's they used to say SALES UNITS and not POINTS. They only changed after streaming era (they methodology have been chaging along the time but all older songs those points are sales only - including "Like a Prayer" and "Hung Up"..

Show me where they say older songs are sales only. Because I am 80% sure they have always used airplay from all around the world. Also you can read in their methology section and it says nothing about airplay being only from the US. In fact it lists all the countries where it uses airplay.

[MadNuno]

Show me where they say older songs are sales only. Because I am 80% sure they have always used airplay from all around the world. Also you can read in their methology section and it says nothing about airplay being only from the US. In fact it lists all the countries where it uses airplay.

Mate, I remember reading that site over 15 years ago (since I found it for the first time) and it was sales only - it was written there but you don't have to take my word for it, just confirm on their facebook account as it was also there somewhere a few years back.

[upushme]

Santa Baby on Spotify

27.11.2020 6.904.776 +12.527
28.11.2020 6.919.603 +14.827
29.11.2020 6.935.103 +15.500
30.11.2020 6.946.726 +11.623
01.12.2020 6.960.809 +14.083
02.12.2020 6.974.514 +13.705
03.12.2020 6.989.320 +14.806

04.12.2020 7.005.533 +16.213
05.12.2020 7.027.574 +22.041
06.12.2020 7.049.444 +21.870
07.12.2020 7.066.288 +16.844

[upushme]

Madame X on Spotify

06.12.2020 166.599.968
07.12.2020 166.674.855 +74.887

[Shego]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4svIh86ZVc
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