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  • Originally posted by DevilPray View Post
    i mean many older fans refuse to stream her music and use streaming platforms but CDs instead, its her teams + fans fault
    hmm I don't think this is true anymore for Madonna fans, most are very adaptable and most stream as I've seen/read , they're Madonna fans after all , *a few* are still stuck in the past as is common with followers of older artists but this fandom seems different, I'd say they're mostly working adults and don't stream as much as do-nothing teens that stream 24/7 is all ...a lot seem to buy CDs and such but still stream
    I think it's mostly about her lack of presence on streaming media, I mean that as in not being featured on plenty more playlists and such, more marketing and promo,etc - something her team has been mismanaging for ages now
    there's some hope her streams will pick up if her team gets it together and with the biopic allegedly coming -and hoping it does well- but until nothing's done things might stay the same or even go the other way

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      • Originally posted by Hex View Post

        Would it be possibel for you to compare Madonna's 2020 total Spotify streams vs. 2019? I feel like her streams are getting better, I just can't prove itl
        I don't have the 2019 numbers. If I'm not mistaken, I started tracking her Spotify streams on september 2019. What I can do is to share her weekly streams from last year and compare to her numbers of this past week:

        https://imgur.com/DGD0D2Z

        In the image above, we have her top 27 songs and how much streams each received last year' second full week vs this year's.

        Hope this helps

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        • Originally posted by UnapologeticKenny View Post

          I don't have the 2019 numbers. If I'm not mistaken, I started tracking her Spotify streams on september 2019. What I can do is to share her weekly streams from last year and compare to her numbers of this past week:

          https://imgur.com/DGD0D2Z

          In the image above, we have her top 27 songs and how much streams each received last year' second full week vs this year's.

          Hope this helps
          Thank you, this is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. It looks like her music IS getting more streams and that's a good sign. I have to be honest, I don't think the planned movie will do anything for her streams. I think her streams will do much better once she has passed away. I think her biggest weakness in streaming--aside from being pop versus rap, rock, etc.--is that she is not doing great in America versus artists like Whitney and Mariah. When her new music was banned on American radio, that really hurt her in the long term and I think that's a big reason why her stream in America are way lower than what they are in Latin America and Europe (where she maintained her popularity very well). She needs to have a good pickup in her American streams.
          Last edited by Hex; Sat January 16, 2021, 22:07.

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          • She was never banned by US radio, stations simply refused to play her new singles for many reasons, not all connected to her age. But her classics (80s) still receive loads of airplay.
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            • Originally posted by Shadowplay View Post
              She was never banned by US radio, stations simply refused to play her new singles for many reasons, not all connected to her age. But her classics (80s) still receive loads of airplay.
              That's what I meant, but I do think that had a huge impact on her appeal with Americans versus Europeans, Latin Americans, parts of Asia, etc. What you said here brings up another question I have had--I don't understand it when legacy artists have loads of airplay for their older hits but that doesn't translate to streams. Janet Jackson is like the epitome of this. Her youtube and spotify stats are downright horrible. Acocrding to Kworb, Madonna gets like 2.2 youtube views a day while Janet gets literally 1/10th of that! But like Madonna, her classic hits get loads of airplay. I don't really understand that. Both women deserve to get much more streams/views than they do. But in Janet's case, her views and streams are impacted by the fact that she was never big outside of America the way Madonna was. I mean, Madonna was basically the first truly global female artist.

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              • Madame X on Spotify

                08.01.2021 169.212.280 +85.630
                09.01.2021 169.295.073 +82.793
                10.01.2021 169.367.817 +72.744
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                  • Madame X on Spotify

                    08.01.2021 169.212.280 +85.630
                    09.01.2021 169.295.073 +82.793
                    10.01.2021 169.367.817 +72.744
                    11.01.2021 169.441.470 +76.653
                    12.01.2021 169.517.006 +75.536
                    13.01.2021 169.595.062 +78.056
                    14.01.2021 169.674.140 +79.078

                    15.01.2021 169.756.184 +82.044
                    16.01.2021 169.839.058 +82.874

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                        Madonna is The most successful and influential female artist of all time.

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                        • Madonna - Papa Don't Preach Total views: 130,072,083
                          Madonna feat. Pharrell - Give It 2 Me Total views: 80,000,253
                          Madonna is The most successful and influential female artist of all time.

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                          • Madame X on Spotify

                            08.01.2021 169.212.280 +85.630
                            09.01.2021 169.295.073 +82.793
                            10.01.2021 169.367.817 +72.744
                            11.01.2021 169.441.470 +76.653
                            12.01.2021 169.517.006 +75.536
                            13.01.2021 169.595.062 +78.056
                            14.01.2021 169.674.140 +79.078

                            15.01.2021 169.756.184 +82.044
                            16.01.2021 169.839.058 +82.874
                            17.01.2021 169.910.514 +71.456

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                            • Thanks to Soulsista!

                              Billboard Top 10 from 30 and 25 years ago:

                              January 26, 1991

                              01 04 The First Time - Surface (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
                              02 01 Love Will Never Do (Without You) - Janet Jackson
                              03 06 Gonna Make You Sweat - C+C Music Factory
                              04 05 Sensitivity - Ralph Tresvant
                              05 03 High Enough - Damn Yankees
                              06 02 Justify My Love - Madonna
                              07 07 Play That Funky Music - Vanilla Ice
                              08 09 After The Rain - Nelson
                              09 11 I'm Not In Love - Will To Power
                              10 14 Just Another Dream - Cathy Dennis


                              January 27, 1996

                              01 01 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (9th of 16 weeks at #1)
                              02 02 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston
                              03 04 Missing - Everything But The Girl
                              04 03 Hey Lover - LL Cool J feat. Boyz II Men
                              05 06 Name - The Goo Goo Dolls
                              06 08 One Of Us - Joan Osborne
                              07 05 Breakfast At Tiffany's - Deep Blue Something
                              08 10 You'll See - Madonna
                              09 11 Before You Walk Out Of My Life / Like This And Like That - Monica
                              10 16 Be My Lover - La Bouche

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                              • Madonna - 2012 Super Bowl Halftime Show (Youtube)

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                                2021/01/12 82,478
                                2021/01/13 84,358
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                                • I think without ticket bundles, and her low streaming, we can definitely say she has very little chances of scoring #1 album in the US with her next project. Unless she releases it in January...

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                                  • ^^Sounds about right. I think MX was her last ever #1 album on BB200

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                                    • Album: The Immaculate Collection


                                      iTunes:
                                      #14 Germany (+5)
                                      #416 Australia (+2)
                                      #450 United States (+157)
                                      #453 United Kingdom (-259)



                                      Apple Music:
                                      #910 United Kingdom (-235)

                                      Madonna is The most successful and influential female artist of all time.

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                                      • Originally posted by SerbianInLA View Post
                                        I think without ticket bundles, and her low streaming, we can definitely say she has very little chances of scoring #1 album in the US with her next project. Unless she releases it in January...
                                        It will all depend on competition. "Rebel Heart" was almost #01 without ticket bundles. "Empire OST" had several songs by different artists being promoted that got the top spot but it's sales were decent enough to be a close race. "Madame X" without bundle would have been #02 just behind Bruce Springsteen so it will all depend on that week competion (during about half of that year weeks would still have been #01 even without the bundle).

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                                        • I wouldn’t be that dramatic, ticket bundles are still a thing, the fans have the option to add the album when they buy a ticket, so a few could add them.

                                          Also Madame X was kinda muted in the sense that it wasn’t heavily promoted in the US (only one performance one month before the album) and the songs/sounds weren’t too American.

                                          Also in the last year a lot of albums have been #1 with lesser sales like around 50k-70k, and I think that she still can move those numbers, of course she won’t be #1 if she releases the same week as Taylor/Drake/any A-list 10s singer.

                                          The movie could also push her exposure and make people aware of her, and also if she goes back with WB they could know how to do it, I would prefer a new #1 in the UK tho.

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                                          • Originally posted by NoirPhoenix View Post
                                            I wouldn’t be that dramatic, ticket bundles are still a thing, the fans have the option to add the album when they buy a ticket, so a few could add them.

                                            Also Madame X was kinda muted in the sense that it wasn’t heavily promoted in the US (only one performance one month before the album) and the songs/sounds weren’t too American.

                                            Also in the last year a lot of albums have been #1 with lesser sales like around 50k-70k, and I think that she still can move those numbers, of course she won’t be #1 if she releases the same week as Taylor/Drake/any A-list 10s singer.

                                            The movie could also push her exposure and make people aware of her, and also if she goes back with WB they could know how to do it, I would prefer a new #1 in the UK tho.
                                            Ticket bundles aren't still a thing. At all. The two purchases have to be completely seperate.
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                                            • do the bundles still count as sales tho?
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                                              • Originally posted by oneofone View Post
                                                ^^Sounds about right. I think MX was her last ever #1 album on BB200
                                                Going number one is often just a case of having a week with low sales or no competition. On one week an album could debut at #1, but if it was released a week later it could be #4 with the exact same sales. Chart positions don't matter, it's sales totals that do.

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                                                • Madame X on Spotify

                                                  08.01.2021 169.212.280 +85.630
                                                  09.01.2021 169.295.073 +82.793
                                                  10.01.2021 169.367.817 +72.744
                                                  11.01.2021 169.441.470 +76.653
                                                  12.01.2021 169.517.006 +75.536
                                                  13.01.2021 169.595.062 +78.056
                                                  14.01.2021 169.674.140 +79.078

                                                  15.01.2021 169.756.184 +82.044
                                                  16.01.2021 169.839.058 +82.874
                                                  17.01.2021 169.910.514 +71.456
                                                  18.01.2021 169.984.321 +73.807

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                                                  • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                                    Ticket bundles aren't still a thing. At all. The two purchases have to be completely seperate.
                                                    I think it still exists but the rules are strict:

                                                    On the issue of bundling, the latest rule changes supersede several others that were previously instituted in January. Those included a requirement that albums bundled with merchandise be available for purchase concurrently and individually on the same website, as well as a condition that merchandise sold on its own be priced lower than bundles that included the album. Additionally, merchandise/album bundles could only be sold on an artist’s official direct-to-consumer web store and not via third-party sites.

                                                    https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2020...h-bundles.html

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