Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

[MadNuno]

Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.

Elton John is a "Diva" - openly gay and there are even jokes that he wishes he was the "Queen of Pop" that straight people tell about him. His biopic shows that.
Freddy Mercury was also gay so and that is well seen in the biopic as well.
Madonna is bi-sexual and the biopic will probably show that.

Before Elton John biopic Madonna was having more than twice the stream Elton John was having. With the film he increased a lot having more streams than Madonna and now he has the same kind of numbers.

[MadNuno]

True--but it wasn't nearly as big of a hit as Bohemian Rhapshody was. But you're right, that probably did help/

The Elton John biopic helped to raise his streaming numbers over 500% when it was out. It wasn't as successful as Bohemian Rhaposhody so the effect wasn't so lasting and his numbers went down a bit (still 250% over what they were before the biopic).

[MadNuno]

I agree with you. Was it always that way with Madonna though, even in her peak? On some forum, peopel were saying when Madonna was huge in the 80s and very early 90s, even straight men would have no issue listening to her. Oh, and I do think in foreign countries (outside the anglosphere) that atttiude towards female arists isn't there as much. It isn't a big deal if a straight man loves Celine Dion, Mariah, MAdonna, etc. in those countries.

So true! Madonna being only for "gay people" is something that especially happens in US. In Europe is quite different.
Many straight man listen to Madonna here in Portugal else her album "Madame X" wouldn't have been #01 for 3 weeks and another 3 weeks at #02.
Even "Confessions Tour" album was #01 for 3 weeks in Portugal back in 2007 and her concert in 2008 was filled with straight people selling out the 75k tickets for the show in 4 days (a record for the venue that she still holds). This is a country with just 10 million people and on the Lisbon area there are only 3 million people (only 500k people live on the city!).

[Shego]

Crazy gets as much daily plays as Crave and Future, and more than Batuka... i knew it should've been a single in Europe..

[InFamous]

What has that got to do with playing Madonna?

Additionally, to what point does your post serve? Are you telling me I’m wrong and I don’t like playing albums in full? I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to achieve by pulling up a comment I made in January three months later, when talking about a different artist.

Oh relax it didn't mean anything. Just thought it was funny cos of what you said before when we talked about Bey. Also I didn't pull up anything, I just have a good memory. There was nothing that I wanted to achieve. Forget I said it.

[Artoo]

When we spoke about Beyonce and her catalogue before you told me that you had her on shuffle to get a taste of everything and mix things up

What has that got to do with playing Madonna?

Additionally, to what point does your post serve? Are you telling me I’m wrong and I don’t like playing albums in full? I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to achieve by pulling up a comment I made in January three months later, when talking about a different artist.

[InFamous]

God I couldn’t think of anything worse. I love playing an album in full.

When we spoke about Beyonce and her catalogue before you told me that you had her on shuffle to get a taste of everything and mix things up

[Artoo]

I would think most people would put Madonna on shuffle when on Spotify considering the huge catalog of songs.

God I couldn’t think of anything worse. I love playing an album in full.

[music126]

That’s such a mixed bag

I know MX is almost two year old, but I find it incredible only 1000 people are streaming it in full on a daily basis.

I would think most people would put Madonna on shuffle when on Spotify considering the huge catalog of songs.

[music126]

I agree with you. Was it always that way with Madonna though, even in her peak? On some forum, peopel were saying when Madonna was huge in the 80s and very early 90s, even straight men would have no issue listening to her. Oh, and I do think in foreign countries (outside the anglosphere) that atttiude towards female arists isn't there as much. It isn't a big deal if a straight man loves Celine Dion, Mariah, MAdonna, etc. in those countries.

Virgin Tour had many straight guys attending. But straight guys still go see Madonna with their girlfriends.

[Artoo]

Spotify

Medellin (with Maluma) 56.803.287 +21.316
Dark Ballet 7.141.658 +6.696
God Control 8.737.957 +7.028
Future (with Quavo) 11.198.947 +4.311
Batuka 4.462.525 +2.298
Killers Who Are Partying 4.095.372 +2.238
Crave (with Swae Lee) 12.049.791 +4.561
Crazy 6.434.952 +4.083
Come Alive 4.084.932 +2.295
Extreme Occident 3.200.189 +1.082
Faz Gostoso (feat. Anitta) 35.501.865 +13.048
Bitch I'm Loca (feat. Maluma) 6.665.286 +3.897
I Don't Search I Find 4.726.878 +2.703
Looking For Mercy 3.655.696 +2.152
I Rise 7.007.254 +1.638

TOTAL 175.766.589 +79.346

That’s such a mixed bag

I know MX is almost two year old, but I find it incredible only 1000 people are streaming it in full on a daily basis.

[upushme]

Spotify

Medellin (with Maluma) 56.803.287 +21.316
Dark Ballet 7.141.658 +6.696
God Control 8.737.957 +7.028
Future (with Quavo) 11.198.947 +4.311
Batuka 4.462.525 +2.298
Killers Who Are Partying 4.095.372 +2.238
Crave (with Swae Lee) 12.049.791 +4.561
Crazy 6.434.952 +4.083
Come Alive 4.084.932 +2.295
Extreme Occident 3.200.189 +1.082
Faz Gostoso (feat. Anitta) 35.501.865 +13.048
Bitch I'm Loca (feat. Maluma) 6.665.286 +3.897
I Don't Search I Find 4.726.878 +2.703
Looking For Mercy 3.655.696 +2.152
I Rise 7.007.254 +1.638

TOTAL 175.766.589 +79.346

[upushme]

Madame X on Spotify

26.03.2021 175.183.883 +76.800
27.03.2021 175.262.534 +78.651
28.03.2021 175.328.940 +66.406
29.03.2021 175.396.615 +67.675
30.03.2021 175.467.300 +70.685
31.03.2021 175.539.403 +72.103
01.04.2021 175.613.625 +74.222

02.04.2021 175.687.243 +73.618
03.04.2021 175.766.589 +79.346

[Hex]

Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.

I agree with you. Was it always that way with Madonna though, even in her peak? On some forum, peopel were saying when Madonna was huge in the 80s and very early 90s, even straight men would have no issue listening to her. Oh, and I do think in foreign countries (outside the anglosphere) that atttiude towards female arists isn't there as much. It isn't a big deal if a straight man loves Celine Dion, Mariah, MAdonna, etc. in those countries.

[Hex]

elton had a biopic movie out

True--but it wasn't nearly as big of a hit as Bohemian Rhapshody was. But you're right, that probably did help/

[jjavier1978]

Album: The Immaculate Collection
iTunes:
#16 Australia (+32)
#40 Germany (+3)
#53 United Kingdom (+59)
#97 Canada (-35)
#241 United States (+71)

Apple Music:
#294 Ireland (+3)
#376 United Kingdom (+78)

[Shego]

Based on spotify, yes, she does (have less appeal)

elton had a biopic movie out

[madfan13]

Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.

So true!!

[Angeman]

You really think Madonna has less appeal than Elton John to a younger generation? Are you kidding?

Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.

[AndiIversen]

I believe the GAP for some of those songs will be smaller a couple of years after the bio-pic.
Both Queen and Elton John saw quite an increase on streaming after the bio-pics were out. Madonna is the only artist that is even bigger than those 2 artists having a biopic out soon.

yeah , Elton had around the same numbers M's having now right before his biopic landed and the film helped him tremendously : he had some 2 Billion Spotify streams in total around the film's opening week and and now he had some 1.1B streams last year alone; also his team did wonders for his playlist reach -something M's team seem to still be learning about-

His team and record label re-certified a bunch of his old records too not too long ago, something that gave him more visibility as well , as having done that you'd get media attention -generally speaking- , something people might see and then may want to check his music out; and we know how M's certs have basically been abandoned.

what is it that they say? hope's the last thing ever lost (if the biopic's handled correctly)

[Hex]

You really think Madonna has less appeal than Elton John to a younger generation? Are you kidding?

Based on spotify, yes, she does (have less appeal)

[jjavier1978]

Album: The Immaculate Collection
iTunes:
#44 Australia (+3)
#62 United Kingdom (+90)
#74 Canada (+83)
#76 Germany (+8)
#261 United States (+45)



Album: Celebration
iTunes:
#7 Ireland (-1)
#17 Switzerland (-7)
#24 Germany (-10)
#88 France (-6)
#95 United Kingdom (+56)
#120 Norway (+7)
#125 Spain (+12)
#141 Belgium (-3)
#167 Italy (-133)
#294 India (-12)
#353 Mexico (-4)
#1264 United States (NE)

[MadNuno]

I don't really see this happening honestly. Madonna is a pop artist versus those two and she just doesn't have their appeal to younger generations. That's how pop music typically is minus a a handful of songs. I think the biopic COULD help her but I'm not holding my breath.

You really think Madonna has less appeal than Elton John to a younger generation? Are you kidding?

[upushme]

Spotify

Secret - Allstar Mix 8,149
Secret - Junior's Luscious Club Mix 17,730
Secret - Junior's Luscious Single Mix 22,185
Secret - Junior's Sound Factory Mix 9,682
Secret - Some Bizarre Mix 9,667

TOTAL 67,413

[upushme]

Spotify

Erotica - In My Jeep Mix 11,692
Erotica - Jeep Beats 9,945
Erotica - Kenlou B-Boy Mix 19,119
Erotica - Masters at Work Dub 12,477
Erotica - Underground Club Mix 22,657
Erotica - WO 12" Version 36,984

TOTAL 112,874