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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Angeman View Post

    Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.
    Elton John is a "Diva" - openly gay and there are even jokes that he wishes he was the "Queen of Pop" that straight people tell about him. His biopic shows that.
    Freddy Mercury was also gay so and that is well seen in the biopic as well.
    Madonna is bi-sexual and the biopic will probably show that.

    Before Elton John biopic Madonna was having more than twice the stream Elton John was having. With the film he increased a lot having more streams than Madonna and now he has the same kind of numbers.

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Hex View Post

    True--but it wasn't nearly as big of a hit as Bohemian Rhapshody was. But you're right, that probably did help/
    The Elton John biopic helped to raise his streaming numbers over 500% when it was out. It wasn't as successful as Bohemian Rhaposhody so the effect wasn't so lasting and his numbers went down a bit (still 250% over what they were before the biopic).

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Hex View Post

    I agree with you. Was it always that way with Madonna though, even in her peak? On some forum, peopel were saying when Madonna was huge in the 80s and very early 90s, even straight men would have no issue listening to her. Oh, and I do think in foreign countries (outside the anglosphere) that atttiude towards female arists isn't there as much. It isn't a big deal if a straight man loves Celine Dion, Mariah, MAdonna, etc. in those countries.
    So true! Madonna being only for "gay people" is something that especially happens in US. In Europe is quite different.
    Many straight man listen to Madonna here in Portugal else her album "Madame X" wouldn't have been #01 for 3 weeks and another 3 weeks at #02.
    Even "Confessions Tour" album was #01 for 3 weeks in Portugal back in 2007 and her concert in 2008 was filled with straight people selling out the 75k tickets for the show in 4 days (a record for the venue that she still holds). This is a country with just 10 million people and on the Lisbon area there are only 3 million people (only 500k people live on the city!).
    Last edited by MadNuno; Mon April 5, 2021, 00:27.

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  • Shego
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    Crazy gets as much daily plays as Crave and Future, and more than Batuka... i knew it should've been a single in Europe..

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by menime123 View Post

    What has that got to do with playing Madonna?

    Additionally, to what point does your post serve? Are you telling me I’m wrong and I don’t like playing albums in full? I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to achieve by pulling up a comment I made in January three months later, when talking about a different artist.
    Oh relax it didn't mean anything. Just thought it was funny cos of what you said before when we talked about Bey. Also I didn't pull up anything, I just have a good memory. There was nothing that I wanted to achieve. Forget I said it.

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    When we spoke about Beyonce and her catalogue before you told me that you had her on shuffle to get a taste of everything and mix things up
    What has that got to do with playing Madonna?

    Additionally, to what point does your post serve? Are you telling me I’m wrong and I don’t like playing albums in full? I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to achieve by pulling up a comment I made in January three months later, when talking about a different artist.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by menime123 View Post

    God I couldn’t think of anything worse. I love playing an album in full.
    When we spoke about Beyonce and her catalogue before you told me that you had her on shuffle to get a taste of everything and mix things up

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by music126 View Post

    I would think most people would put Madonna on shuffle when on Spotify considering the huge catalog of songs.
    God I couldn’t think of anything worse. I love playing an album in full.

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  • music126
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    Originally posted by menime123 View Post

    That’s such a mixed bag

    I know MX is almost two year old, but I find it incredible only 1000 people are streaming it in full on a daily basis.
    I would think most people would put Madonna on shuffle when on Spotify considering the huge catalog of songs.

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  • music126
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    Originally posted by Hex View Post

    I agree with you. Was it always that way with Madonna though, even in her peak? On some forum, peopel were saying when Madonna was huge in the 80s and very early 90s, even straight men would have no issue listening to her. Oh, and I do think in foreign countries (outside the anglosphere) that atttiude towards female arists isn't there as much. It isn't a big deal if a straight man loves Celine Dion, Mariah, MAdonna, etc. in those countries.
    Virgin Tour had many straight guys attending. But straight guys still go see Madonna with their girlfriends.

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  • Artoo
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    Originally posted by upushme View Post
    Spotify

    Medellin (with Maluma) 56.803.287 +21.316
    Dark Ballet 7.141.658 +6.696
    God Control 8.737.957 +7.028
    Future (with Quavo) 11.198.947 +4.311
    Batuka 4.462.525 +2.298
    Killers Who Are Partying 4.095.372 +2.238
    Crave (with Swae Lee) 12.049.791 +4.561
    Crazy 6.434.952 +4.083
    Come Alive 4.084.932 +2.295
    Extreme Occident 3.200.189 +1.082
    Faz Gostoso (feat. Anitta) 35.501.865 +13.048
    Bitch I'm Loca (feat. Maluma) 6.665.286 +3.897
    I Don't Search I Find 4.726.878 +2.703
    Looking For Mercy 3.655.696 +2.152
    I Rise 7.007.254 +1.638

    TOTAL 175.766.589 +79.346
    That’s such a mixed bag

    I know MX is almost two year old, but I find it incredible only 1000 people are streaming it in full on a daily basis.

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  • upushme
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    Spotify

    Medellin (with Maluma) 56.803.287 +21.316
    Dark Ballet 7.141.658 +6.696
    God Control 8.737.957 +7.028
    Future (with Quavo) 11.198.947 +4.311
    Batuka 4.462.525 +2.298
    Killers Who Are Partying 4.095.372 +2.238
    Crave (with Swae Lee) 12.049.791 +4.561
    Crazy 6.434.952 +4.083
    Come Alive 4.084.932 +2.295
    Extreme Occident 3.200.189 +1.082
    Faz Gostoso (feat. Anitta) 35.501.865 +13.048
    Bitch I'm Loca (feat. Maluma) 6.665.286 +3.897
    I Don't Search I Find 4.726.878 +2.703
    Looking For Mercy 3.655.696 +2.152
    I Rise 7.007.254 +1.638

    TOTAL 175.766.589 +79.346

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  • upushme
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    Madame X on Spotify

    26.03.2021 175.183.883 +76.800
    27.03.2021 175.262.534 +78.651
    28.03.2021 175.328.940 +66.406
    29.03.2021 175.396.615 +67.675
    30.03.2021 175.467.300 +70.685
    31.03.2021 175.539.403 +72.103
    01.04.2021 175.613.625 +74.222

    02.04.2021 175.687.243 +73.618
    03.04.2021 175.766.589 +79.346
    Last edited by upushme; Wed April 7, 2021, 20:39.

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  • Hex
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    Originally posted by Angeman View Post

    Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.
    I agree with you. Was it always that way with Madonna though, even in her peak? On some forum, peopel were saying when Madonna was huge in the 80s and very early 90s, even straight men would have no issue listening to her. Oh, and I do think in foreign countries (outside the anglosphere) that atttiude towards female arists isn't there as much. It isn't a big deal if a straight man loves Celine Dion, Mariah, MAdonna, etc. in those countries.

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  • Hex
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    Originally posted by DevilPray View Post

    elton had a biopic movie out
    True--but it wasn't nearly as big of a hit as Bohemian Rhapshody was. But you're right, that probably did help/

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  • jjavier1978
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    Album: The Immaculate Collection
    iTunes:
    #16 Australia (+32)
    #40 Germany (+3)
    #53 United Kingdom (+59)
    #97 Canada (-35)
    #241 United States (+71)

    Apple Music:
    #294 Ireland (+3)
    #376 United Kingdom (+78)

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  • Shego
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    Originally posted by Hex View Post

    Based on spotify, yes, she does (have less appeal)
    elton had a biopic movie out

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  • madfan13
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    Originally posted by Angeman View Post

    Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.
    So true!!

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  • Angeman
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    Originally posted by MadNuno View Post

    You really think Madonna has less appeal than Elton John to a younger generation? Are you kidding?
    Yes because older women are often seen as "gay". Elton is a man and they tend to have better numbers because straight men can listen to them and not feel like people are judging them. They get all demographics. Women such as Whitney, Madonna, and Mariah get listeners for their big hits, but beyond that it is purely gays and women. At least that is my opinion on part of the discrepancy.

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  • AndiIversen
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    Originally posted by MadNuno View Post

    I believe the GAP for some of those songs will be smaller a couple of years after the bio-pic.
    Both Queen and Elton John saw quite an increase on streaming after the bio-pics were out. Madonna is the only artist that is even bigger than those 2 artists having a biopic out soon.
    yeah , Elton had around the same numbers M's having now right before his biopic landed and the film helped him tremendously : he had some 2 Billion Spotify streams in total around the film's opening week and and now he had some 1.1B streams last year alone; also his team did wonders for his playlist reach -something M's team seem to still be learning about-

    His team and record label re-certified a bunch of his old records too not too long ago, something that gave him more visibility as well , as having done that you'd get media attention -generally speaking- , something people might see and then may want to check his music out; and we know how M's certs have basically been abandoned.

    what is it that they say? hope's the last thing ever lost (if the biopic's handled correctly)

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  • Hex
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    Originally posted by MadNuno View Post

    You really think Madonna has less appeal than Elton John to a younger generation? Are you kidding?
    Based on spotify, yes, she does (have less appeal)

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  • jjavier1978
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    Album: The Immaculate Collection
    iTunes:
    #44 Australia (+3)
    #62 United Kingdom (+90)
    #74 Canada (+83)
    #76 Germany (+8)
    #261 United States (+45)



    Album: Celebration
    iTunes:
    #7 Ireland (-1)
    #17 Switzerland (-7)
    #24 Germany (-10)
    #88 France (-6)
    #95 United Kingdom (+56)
    #120 Norway (+7)
    #125 Spain (+12)
    #141 Belgium (-3)
    #167 Italy (-133)
    #294 India (-12)
    #353 Mexico (-4)
    #1264 United States (NE)

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  • MadNuno
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    Originally posted by Hex View Post

    I don't really see this happening honestly. Madonna is a pop artist versus those two and she just doesn't have their appeal to younger generations. That's how pop music typically is minus a a handful of songs. I think the biopic COULD help her but I'm not holding my breath.
    You really think Madonna has less appeal than Elton John to a younger generation? Are you kidding?

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  • upushme
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    Spotify

    Secret - Allstar Mix 8,149
    Secret - Junior's Luscious Club Mix 17,730
    Secret - Junior's Luscious Single Mix 22,185
    Secret - Junior's Sound Factory Mix 9,682
    Secret - Some Bizarre Mix 9,667

    TOTAL 67,413

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  • upushme
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    Spotify

    Erotica - In My Jeep Mix 11,692
    Erotica - Jeep Beats 9,945
    Erotica - Kenlou B-Boy Mix 19,119
    Erotica - Masters at Work Dub 12,477
    Erotica - Underground Club Mix 22,657
    Erotica - WO 12" Version 36,984

    TOTAL 112,874

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