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  • Originally posted by maroon View Post
    It's funny how many marketing "specialists" there are here yet Madonna doesn't seem to have any...
    If singing songs on talk shows guaranteed these songs success, artists wouldn't even do interviews, they'd just perform, that's it.
    The world is not so black and white. "Medellin" wouldn't have been a big hit regardless of the number of live performances. Nothing on "Madame X" had real hit potential.
    Both things work. Interviews increase more the artist and brand awareness while singing the songs promote the singles.
    In Madonna case an interview is enough to sell the albums but she would still need a performance to increase song sales and song streams.
    In today market where streams and tracks also count for album charts this could have made wonders for both her songs and her album.
    Also performing a song can give much more viral marketing on the internet (that's what happened with her "Living For Live" Brit Awards performance due to her unfortunate fall). Also an artist as big as Madonna performing and giving an interview also generates much more press on traditional media.

    Not to drop my resume here but I'm really a marketing specialist.
    I've already worked with Warner Music too. I have a business managment degree, a post graduation in marketing managment and master in marketing.

    Warner was not perfect and made lots of mistakes but they knew how to marketing an artist like Madonna while Interscoop/Universal seem to be clueless. Plus not sure if many of the last decade choises were also Madonna and not all them. I just think it's great she is back at Warner as they own all her catalog and will invest much more on her brand because of it.

    About "Madame X" real hit potential you are right. Only tracks would be "Medellin", "Crave", "I Rise", "I Don't Search I Find" or "Faz Gostoso"..

    Madonna was not very concerned in selling the album but more in passing her messages and do a different kind of music. That's why 3 videos were not singles (or ever had any chance).

    "Medellin" would have become an hit probably a little bigger in size comparing to "Livin For Love" if promoted on the same kind of level (multiple TV Shows and Award shows performances in US and Europe) but physical singles (in vinyl and cd) needed to exist for that to happen as well as people would buy those mostly on the weeks of promotion. Imagine if Kylie Minogue didn't have singles physical releases in UK from her last album? Probably none would even chart in UK TOP 100.

    "Crave" would have been a bigger hit in US if she had performed the song in an Award or TV Show (still did good at clubs and adult comtemporary but even there would have done better).

    "I Rise" had a real chance if it had a real video and again some performing promotion (and maybe a remix with some comtemporary hit artist - but she needs to have very careful with that).

    "I Don't Search I Find" needed a video and promotion. Would never be huge but could be a TOP 100 hit in many countries.

    "Faz Gostoso" would be the bigger hit in latin countries but not so sure how the track would do outside those markets.

    Whether we like it or not Madonna is a legacy artist that will only chart huge again with a great new song (good isn't enough), with lots and lots of promotion and collaborating with an artist that is really big in most world markets (none of the artists she collaborated on "Madame X" were very big - I mean Maluma got his 2nd biggest hit in UK with "Medellin" peaking at #87).

    Also it was probably a mistake for Madonna not to feature on Dua Lipa remix video for "Levitating" as the song and video were on high rotation on music channels and radios - Madonna on the video would have made a difference on the song performance on the charts no matter what people think. It would be better for her not to be on the song if she was going to be only "half-way". True that the remix production is lame (blame it on Black Madonna or Blessed or whatever she is called now) but Madonna accepted it on first hand (If she accepted to do the song with that production it's kind of weird not to be in the video - she was even in a Snoop Dog video later without being on his song).

    Sometimes it's hard to see where artist and marketing choices start and end but she needs to be more careful with that so it doesn't hurt her legacy and her as an artists. I get it she is Madonna and can't be acessible for all albums all the time. She did promo for "Rebel Heart" already and so she/her people probably felt that she should avoid over exposure with her new Era but she really needed it if she wanted to have a bigger hit (not necessary a huge hit) from the album.
    Last edited by MadNuno; Sat August 28, 2021, 16:32.

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    • SPOTIFY UPDATE - 20/08/21 ~ 26/08/21
      .
      FOLLOWERS: 5,323,524 (+26,103)
      MONTHLY LISTENERS: 16,313,222 (+26,679) - #235 (+1)
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      TOTAL STREAMS (LEAD): 3,621,329,304 (+16,451,944 / %± LW: -1,90%)
      TOTAL STREAMS (WITH FEATS): 3,736,621,533 (+16,994,402 / %± LW: -1,91%)
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      # ALBUM WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
      01 (=) True Blue 2,347,921 -3.51% 349,662,082
      02 (=) Like A Virgin 2,143,622 -2.31% 451,682,598
      03 (=) Confessions on a Dance Floor 2,120,128 -1.47% 324,752,448
      04 (=) Like A Prayer 1,623,131 -1.87% 324,891,076
      05 (=) Hard Candy 1,093,524 -0.79% 243,154,938
      06 (=) Madonna 949,355 -2.21% 205,696,600
      07 (=) Ray of Light 839,899 2.27% 173,513,563
      08 (=) I'm Breathless 736,104 -1.07% 157,939,419
      09 (=) Music 597,155 -1.74% 126,324,307
      10 (=) Madame X 430,569 -5.47% 185,607,310
      11 (=) Rebel Heart 398,459 -2.05% 240,966,947
      12 (=) Bedtime Stories 327,531 -2.69% 70,437,678
      13 (=) MDNA 303,008 -1.81% 118,800,157
      14 (=) American Life 225,828 -3.29% 65,221,060
      15 (=) Erotica 201,299 -1.29% 47,179,000
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      # SONG WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
      01 (=) Hung Up 1,514,953 -1.15% 201,036,268
      02 (=) Like a Prayer 1,258,059 -1.56% 247,923,112
      03 (=) La Isla Bonita 1,170,818 -1.54% 170,903,688
      04 (=) Material Girl 1,047,266 -1.41% 226,989,432
      05 (=) Like a Virgin 932,863 -3.16% 188,707,664
      06 (=) 4 Minutes 839,917 -0.51% 177,933,452
      07 (=) Vogue 705,033 -0.91% 150,235,955
      08 (=) Holiday 579,572 -1.24% 116,924,384
      09 (=) Papa Don't Preach 449,193 -2.27% 71,477,299
      10 (=) Into the Groove 416,805 -0.15% 70,304,558
      11 (=) Crazy for You 398,986 -0.82% 66,809,970
      12 (=) Frozen 371,200 7.44% 66,927,700
      13 (=) Sorry 261,960 -0.62% 44,888,163
      14 (=) Music 231,139 -1.62% 48,322,836
      15 (=) Live to Tell 201,684 -1.29% 34,211,226
      16 (=) Express Yourself 189,703 -1.72% 38,363,316
      17 (=) Ray of Light 183,436 -1.52% 42,181,977
      18 (=) Bitch I'm Madonna 182,795 -0.23% 74,270,147
      19 (=) Borderline 179,155 -1.69% 36,752,356
      20 (=) American Pie 176,332 -1.36% 32,379,296
      21 (=) Take a Bow 175,981 1.47% 32,808,884
      22 (+1) Open Your Heart 162,687 -1.78% 32,167,212
      23 (-1) True Blue 160,821 -3.30% 23,710,868
      24 (=) Give It 2 Me 145,085 -1.22% 27,720,684
      25 (=) Girl Gone Wild 130,427 -1.81% 34,865,389
      26 (=) The Power of Good-Bye 129,750 -0.01% 26,285,764
      27 (+1) Jump 123,421 -1.46% 23,114,090
      28 (-1) Lucky Star 121,181 -3.83% 28,313,314
      29 (=) Medellín 118,873 -3.93% 59,584,097
      30 (=) Don't Tell Me 106,165 -0.85% 24,041,617
      PS.: Streams from compilation versions and radio edits are merged with the original song's totals
      PS2.: No remixes are counted for the songs' or album' totals, with the exception of the ones originally released in the album tracklisting (Madonna, LAV, TB, MDNA and RH).

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      Some milestones:
      * Hung Up - 200 million (Album + Radio Edit)
      * Vogue - 150 million (Album + TIC + Single Edit)
      * Into The Groove - 70 million (TIC + Celebration)
      * Spanish Eyes - 3 million
      * I'm A Sinner - 2 million

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      • ^Thanks!

        How come ROL had such a "big" update when all other albums lost a lot (I guess that's because last update's was her birthday and she naturally gained a lot for the occasion)?
        And why the sudden rise for Frozen? Was it used anywhere?

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        • is everyone following this new playlist?


          I think it's a good way to play every day lol
          https://open.spotify.com/playlist/44...0f6d28fe8e406a

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          • UK Albums Streaming Charts:

            87 (79) 24 The Immaculate Collection
            Madonna is The most successful and influential female artist of all time.

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            • Madame X on Spotify

              13.08.2021 184.785.472 +64.231
              14.08.2021 184.849.465 +63.993
              15.08.2021 184.905.206 +55.741
              16.08.2021 184.973.984 +68.778
              17.08.2021 185.043.797 +69.813
              18.08.2021 185.110.533 +66.736
              19.08.2021 185.176.741 +66.208

              20.08.2021 185.244.379 +67.638
              21.08.2021 185.310.290 +65.911
              22.08.2021 185.367.146 +56.856
              23.08.2021 185.424.715 +57.569
              24.08.2021 185.484.405 +59.690
              25.08.2021 185.545.653 +61.248
              26.08.2021 185.607.310 +61.657

              27.08.2021 185.671.322 +64.012

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              • Madonna - Like A Virgin (Official Video)

                Total views: 93,007,011
                Madonna is The most successful and influential female artist of all time.

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                • Madame X on Spotify

                  13.08.2021 184.785.472 +64.231
                  14.08.2021 184.849.465 +63.993
                  15.08.2021 184.905.206 +55.741
                  16.08.2021 184.973.984 +68.778
                  17.08.2021 185.043.797 +69.813
                  18.08.2021 185.110.533 +66.736
                  19.08.2021 185.176.741 +66.208

                  20.08.2021 185.244.379 +67.638
                  21.08.2021 185.310.290 +65.911
                  22.08.2021 185.367.146 +56.856
                  23.08.2021 185.424.715 +57.569
                  24.08.2021 185.484.405 +59.690
                  25.08.2021 185.545.653 +61.248
                  26.08.2021 185.607.310 +61.657

                  27.08.2021 185.671.322 +64.012
                  28.08.2021 185.735.539 +64.217

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                  • Originally posted by jjavier1978 View Post
                    Madonna - Like A Virgin (Official Video)

                    Total views: 93,007,011
                    Hung Up also hit 326 million, though it hits a new milestone weekly at this point.

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                    • Worldwide iTunes Album Chart - 2021/08/29 (Pos, P+, Artist and Title, Days, Pk)

                      150 NEW Madonna - The Immaculate Collection 324 29

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                      • Power Of Goodbye Video: 46 million
                        Unapologetic Bitch Audio Video: 3 million

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                        • Madonna - La Isla Bonita (Official Video)Expected to hit 500,000,000 on: 2021/10/17
                          Madonna - Like A Prayer (Official Video) Expected to hit 200,000,000 on: 2022/02/02
                          Madonna - Hung Up (Official Video) [HD]Expected to hit 400,000,000 on: 2023/02/06
                          Madonna - Papa Don't Preach (Official Video)Expected to hit 200,000,000 on: 2023/02/14
                          Madonna - Like A Virgin (Official Video) Expected to hit 100,000,000 on: 2022/04/07
                          Madonna - Material Girl (Official Video) [HD] Expected to hit 100,000,000 on: 2022/06/27


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                          • Originally posted by mdna87 View Post
                            Madonna - La Isla Bonita (Official Video)Expected to hit 500,000,000 on: 2021/10/17
                            Madonna - Like A Prayer (Official Video) Expected to hit 200,000,000 on: 2022/02/02
                            Madonna - Hung Up (Official Video) [HD]Expected to hit 400,000,000 on: 2023/02/06
                            Madonna - Papa Don't Preach (Official Video)Expected to hit 200,000,000 on: 2023/02/14
                            Madonna - Like A Virgin (Official Video) Expected to hit 100,000,000 on: 2022/04/07
                            Madonna - Material Girl (Official Video) [HD] Expected to hit 100,000,000 on: 2022/06/27

                            Hope that "Like a Virgin" HD comes next so the video gets a few more daily plays and hits that 100 million milestone before April 2022... that's still many months away

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                            • Originally posted by MadNuno View Post

                              Hope that "Like a Virgin" HD comes next so the video gets a few more daily plays and hits that 100 million milestone before April 2022... that's still many months away
                              Lets do justice to like a virgin the first no.1 song of her legendary and neverending hits lists
                              Madonna is the queen of pop and the biggest selling female music artist of all time!

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                              • Madame X on Spotify

                                13.08.2021 184.785.472 +64.231
                                14.08.2021 184.849.465 +63.993
                                15.08.2021 184.905.206 +55.741
                                16.08.2021 184.973.984 +68.778
                                17.08.2021 185.043.797 +69.813
                                18.08.2021 185.110.533 +66.736
                                19.08.2021 185.176.741 +66.208

                                20.08.2021 185.244.379 +67.638
                                21.08.2021 185.310.290 +65.911
                                22.08.2021 185.367.146 +56.856
                                23.08.2021 185.424.715 +57.569
                                24.08.2021 185.484.405 +59.690
                                25.08.2021 185.545.653 +61.248
                                26.08.2021 185.607.310 +61.657

                                27.08.2021 185.671.322 +64.012
                                28.08.2021 185.735.539 +64.217
                                29.08.2021 185.788.794 +53.255

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                                • Pre-00's female artists with most million selling singles in UK

                                  Madonna,Christina Aguilera - 4
                                  Dolly Parton,Whitney Houston,Britney Spears - 3
                                  Celine Dion,Cyndi Lauper,Bonnie Tyler,Kylie Minogue & Shakira - 2

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                                  • Originally posted by Choley View Post
                                    Pre-00's female artists with most million selling singles in UK

                                    Madonna,Christina Aguilera - 4
                                    Dolly Parton,Whitney Houston,Britney Spears - 3
                                    Celine Dion,Cyndi Lauper,Bonnie Tyler,Kylie Minogue & Shakira - 2
                                    The fact that a year ago she had 0 and now 4 is great. Which is next?

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                                    • Originally posted by Choley View Post
                                      Pre-00's female artists with most million selling singles in UK

                                      Madonna,Christina Aguilera - 4
                                      Dolly Parton,Whitney Houston,Britney Spears - 3
                                      Celine Dion,Cyndi Lauper,Bonnie Tyler,Kylie Minogue & Shakira - 2
                                      Which 4?

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                                      • Originally posted by Angeman View Post

                                        The fact that a year ago she had 0 and now 4 is great. Which is next?
                                        It's a bit uncertain... probably "Crazy For You" as it's at 900k now but both "Hung Up" and "Papa Don't Preach" are having much more streams in UK every week and equivalent song units are already over 800k by now for both these singles.


                                        Info is not in the same place so further research would be needed (and articles from UK Official Charts are not always accurated and are already old) but based on info I have at hand right now I would say we will have to wait at least another 3 years for another million seller (unless her 40º Career Anniversary next year works wonders beyond my imagination).


                                        https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...d-songs__8646/ (2019) Streamed Songs

                                        https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...-chart__23721/ (2018) Biggest Songs (sales + streams)

                                        https://www.officialcharts.com/chart...singles__8266/ (2017) Biggest Selling Pure Sales

                                        ""Like a Prayer" was at 792k in August 2018 and due to streaming and song sales is already over 1 million. This is her most streamed song in UK.
                                        "Hung Up" was at 697k in August 2018. It's her 2nd most streamed track in UK. Not sure of the exact number but it's already over 800k (it can be close to 900k, I don't know - ABBA marketing now may benefit "Hung Up" due to the ABBA sample).

                                        "Material Girl" and "La Isla Bonita" have similar streaming numbers to "Hung Up" in UK so will be fast sellers too but they may still need 5 years to hit 1 million.

                                        Not sure what "Vogue" numbers are but the song is among both TOP 10 Most Streamed Madonna songs and TOP 10 Biggest Songs in 2018. In the 2017 article "Vogue" was #11 best selling pure sales with around 530k pure sales. I'm sure pure sales didn't increase much but the song does good on streaming.

                                        Will Madonna have 10 songs that are million seller songs in UK in the next 5/7 years? This is not only possible but also very likely.
                                        Last edited by MadNuno; Tue August 31, 2021, 03:53.

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                                        • Originally posted by MusicLover88 View Post

                                          Which 4?
                                          "Into The Groove"
                                          "Like a Prayer"
                                          "Like a Virgin"
                                          "Holiday"

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                                          • CFY could be such a big classic but she will always ignore it. Its a shame. A few playlists and performances would do it some good. Its taken awhile but at least she will soon(ish) have a lot more million sellers.

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                                            • Originally posted by Angeman View Post

                                              The fact that a year ago she had 0 and now 4 is great. Which is next?
                                              Crazy For You is next with 900k sales

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                                              • Originally posted by Angeman View Post
                                                CFY could be such a big classic but she will always ignore it. Its a shame. A few playlists and performances would do it some good. Its taken awhile but at least she will soon(ish) have a lot more million sellers.
                                                It was also released twice in UK and both times reached #02 - 1985 the original version and 1991 the TIC (Q sound remix). This certainly helped the single sales. Plus around Valentine's Day the track have a huge spike on streams everywhere. If they do any promo with the song on late January/early February this would hit 1 million in UK next year (it would only take a commercial using the song for a Valentine's Day campaign in UK to do the trick).

                                                (Madonna doesn't have songwritting credits on this song so she probably prefers to promote songs that give her more money as "Like a Prayer", "La Isla Bonita" or "Vogue")
                                                Last edited by MadNuno; Tue August 31, 2021, 11:20.

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                                                • does anyone know which is the most streamed song released in 1989? i think like a prayer was second (if you included double upload) the last time i checked
                                                  Blue hydrangea, cold cash divine. Cashmere, cologne and white sunshine.
                                                  Red racing cars, sunset and vine. And we were young and pretty.

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                                                  • Originally posted by DevilPray View Post
                                                    does anyone know which is the most streamed song released in 1989? i think like a prayer was second (if you included double upload) the last time i checked
                                                    Not sure, but I think it's Tom Petty's Free Fallin'. That one is over 400 Million streams

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