Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

[maroon]

I've read it in a lot of places (physical magazines from late 80's - not sure how accurate they were) but on the internet there are few places saying it as well.

"Papa Don't Preach" ended up at #01 on Mediattrafic Year End Charts for 1986 ("True Blue" was #04 and "Live To Tell" was #08).
http://www.mediatraffic.de/countdown1986.htm

Excuse me but there is no official chart accurately tracking worldwide sales, let alone in the eighties (and that MediaTraffic coming back like a boomerang as a credible source is becoming a bit of a joke) so statements putting any song as the best selling single of any particular year are just guesses/estimates meaning that they shouldn't be presented as facts. "Papa Don't Preach" was ONE OF the best sellers of 1986, that's more like it.

[wowsignal14]

Material Girl on Spotify

05/28/2022 - 293,122,437 (+331,138)

seems like stranger things had minor impact on it since it's at only #60 in the official ST playlist.

[MadNuno]

Excuse me but there is no official chart accurately tracking worldwide sales, let alone in the eighties (and that MediaTraffic coming back like a boomerang as a credible source is becoming a bit of a joke) so statements putting any song as the best selling single of any particular year are just guesses/estimates meaning that they shouldn't be presented as facts. "Papa Don't Preach" was ONE OF the best sellers of 1986, that's more like it.

Well it was the best seller in Europe (that's a certainty) - no guesses or estimates theres - plus was one of the best sellers in the rest of the world as well when most other best sellers varied a lot from territory to territory except for "Papa Don't Preach" so it must really have been the best seller for 1986.

It was presented by TV Shows in different chanels and magazines at the time as the best selling single of 1986 in the worldwide (both in 1986 as well as in the end of the 80's decade when they did a decade recap - as well as "Like a Prayer" song was the #01 single of 1989 - but that one was already according to IFPI info as well).

Not sure where did they get the information to make the TV Shows or to put on the magazines. Not sure if IFPI already got any info by then (I don't think they published anything) or if were the Record Labels that would say something as the market research always existed paid by all big record labels to a company (like Nielsen) so the data do exists for sure.

Contrary to widely popular believe not everything is on the Internet, especially information that pre-dates the creation of the Internet (and much of that older information even when it is on the web is kind of hard to get).

[wowsignal14]

"Papa Don't Preach" ended up at #01 on Mediattrafic Year End Charts for 1986 ("True Blue" was #04 and "Live To Tell" was #08).
http://www.mediatraffic.de/countdown1986.htm

Mediatraffic is not a real chart it's as reliable as any chart i could create right now.

[MadNuno]

Material Girl on Spotify

05/28/2022 - 293,122,437 (+331,138)

seems like stranger things had minor impact on it since it's at only #60 in the official ST playlist.

Well it will have more impact on the Season 4 songs.

Certainly "Material Girl" may benefit a bit as some new people may watch the show (or re-watch previous seasons) still the new season is the one that will have more impact. Is there any Madonna song on season 4?

[MadNuno]

Mediatraffic is not a real chart it's as reliable as any chart i could create right now.

Did you read all the rest that I wrote...?

Plus "Papa Don't Preach" was presented by TV Shows and magazines in the 80's as the best selling single for 1986.

Record Labels have the data as they ALWAYS paid to market research companies to collect it. Yet the data is only turn public as press releases to the press by the market research company (and in the past full data wasn't given for everyone to have).

[wowsignal14]

Well it will have more impact on the Season 4 songs.

Certainly "Material Girl" may benefit a bit as some new people may watch the show (or re-watch previous seasons) still the new season is the one that will have more impact. Is there any Madonna song on season 4?

no there isn't, (so far, since the last two episodes aren't out yet) but this season is set in 1986 2 months before TB's release and the creators of the show love historical accuracy. so the only song that could realistically make it is Live to Tell (or maybe an older madonna song)
season 5 coming next year is set in 1987 so i'm hoping maybe la isla bonita or open your heart are gonna be in it

Running Up That Hill by Kate Bush entered the Spotify Global 200 Chart today at #106 with 1.1m streams and is #1 on US iTunes because of being featured in one of the episodes, it is an immensely popular show we definitely need another madonna song in it.

[flotando]

Not again a second version of Like a Prayer between her 10 most listened tracks on Spotify!

How is it so when it's only 15th in her daily chart? Why not Crazy for You or Into the Groove? And when are they gonna merge this mess?

[jjavier1978]

France Singles Chart:

139 (125) 14 Frozen Remix

Run Chart: 190 - 140 - 102 - 81 - 97 - 64 - 64 - 66 - 72 - 73 -72 - 93 - 125 - 139

[Shego]

how many streams did MG get during the stranger things episode day?

[wowsignal14]

how many streams did MG get during the stranger things episode day?

331k as i said

[britneylinda]

^Kate song is being used in whole episode while Madonna one for just few seconds, 331K is decent result. Madonna needs another song in this show, it's a huge show.

[MadNuno]

Not again a second version of Like a Prayer between her 10 most listened tracks on Spotify!

How is it so when it's only 15th in her daily chart? Why not Crazy for You or Into the Groove? And when are they gonna merge this mess?

Probably not soon... or ever!

If the Spotify rule of the 10 times daily max streams )per person) to listen to each track is true while the songs aren't merged if I listen to 10 times each of the differen versions (Album, single, TIC, Celebration 2 Cds, Celebration 1CD) not merged then I give the song 50 streams (10 for each diferent version not merged) otherwise I would give the song only 10 streams max.

They probably know they will lose some streams if they merge them... else... they can only be too lazy to do it

[MadNuno]

^Kate song is being used in whole episode while Madonna one for just few seconds, 331K is decent result. Madonna needs another song in this show, it's a huge show.

Plus Madonna song was 3 years ago wasn't it? When streams were lower than now.

[wowsignal14]

Probably not soon... or ever!

If the Spotify rule of the 10 times daily max streams )per person) to listen to each track is true while the songs aren't merged if I listen to 10 times each of the differen versions (Album, single, TIC, Celebration 2 Cds, Celebration 1CD) not merged then I give the song 50 streams (10 for each diferent version not merged) otherwise I would give the song only 10 streams max.

They probably know they will lose some streams if they merge them... else... they can only be too lazy to do it

the 10 streams rule only is in effect when it comes to Spotify Charts and the numbers provided to Chart Companies (Billboard, OCC etc)
for the Spotify counter there is no limit you can stream a song as many times as you want (just not in a spam way, if you listen to one song like 30 times on repeat it's only gonna count as one stream)
so that's definitely not what's stopping them.

[InFamous]

the 10 streams rule only is in effect when it comes to Spotify Charts and the numbers provided to Chart Companies (Billboard, OCC etc)
for the Spotify counter there is no limit you can stream a song as many times as you want (just not in a spam way, if you listen to one song like 30 times on repeat it's only gonna count as one stream)
so that's definitely not what's stopping them.

That's not true. Spotify remove excess streams.

[MadNuno]

That's not true. Spotify remove excess streams.

It removes exces streams from DIFFERENT TRACKS.

If songs aren't merged then for Spotify system IT'S NOT THE SAME SONG but different songs and so those tracks aren't removed.

If you play 10 times or more Like Prayer on the Album + TIC + Celebration = 30 streams as it's 10 max for each song.

If tracks were merged those 30 streams would only be considered 10 streams as it would be considered just 1 different song.

Probably Warner even affect each one to the album it's from (for album sales purpose) but all end up being deliver to the single since it falls into those rules.

Otherwise listening to "Frozen" Sickick Remix 10 times and to "Frozen on Fire" Remix 10 times would be the same and wouldn't give the song 20 streams but only 10 - that's non-sense!

[InFamous]

It removes exces streams from DIFFERENT TRACKS.

If songs aren't merged then for Spotify system IT'S NOT THE SAME SONG but different songs and so those tracks aren't removed.

If you play 10 times or more Like Prayer on the Album + TIC + Celebration = 30 streams as it's 10 max for each song.

If tracks were merged those 30 streams would only be considered 10 streams as it would be considered just 1 different song.

Probably Warner even affect each one to the album it's from (for album sales purpose) but all end up being deliver to the single since it falls into those rules.

Otherwise listening to "Frozen" Sickick Remix 10 times and to "Frozen on Fire" Remix 10 times would be the same and wouldn't give the song 20 streams but only 10 - that's non-sense!

Also not true. Spotify has no idea where the song is being streamed from. If you stream a song from the original album or a GH it's the same thing, unless it's a different version.

[MadNuno]

Also not true. Spotify has no idea where the song is being streamed from. If you stream a song from the original album or a GH it's the same thing, unless it's a different version.

As I said! If tracks aren't merge SPOTIFY treat them as DIFFERENT SONGS and so the 10 streams rule aply to both seperatly.

[InFamous]

As I said! If tracks aren't merge SPOTIFY treat them as DIFFERENT SONGS and so the 10 streams rule aply to both seperatly.

But the only version that counts for the new album is the version that appears on the album

[MadNuno]

But the only version that counts for the new album is the version that appears on the album

True!

But all versions count for Songs/Singles cumulative sales plus much probably for the other albums where those versions are as well (except if they are remixes that are only on the single for the song).

This can increase some of her songs/singles certificaitons much faster (especially in UK where each 100 paid streams are 1 single sale equivalent - that's why I'm streaming in both different users paid accounts with a VPN IP address from UK counting toward UK streams total).

[InFamous]

True!

But all versions count for Songs/Singles cumulative sales plus much probably for the other albums where those versions are as well (except if they are remixes that are only on the single for the song).

This can increase some of her songs/singles certificaitons much faster (especially in UK where each 100 paid streams are 1 single sale equivalent - that's why I'm streaming in both different users paid accounts with a VPN IP address from UK counting toward UK streams total).

The chart companies use software to detect VPNs and your streams prob won't count.

[MadNuno]

The chart companies use software to detect VPNs and your streams prob won't count.

I choosed a VPN that is said it would work for it... but can't never be sure about it - I believe they deliver.

Still most important VPN's streams count as those kind of software aren't that effective in verifying if the origin country it is or not UK (I can be in UK and use a private VPN as I am in UK just the same as most big companies do using VPNs in UK being as well in UK).

Most chart companies really want to have bigger numbers for their markets so they don't put such a bigger effort on that (and looking at UK Chart numbers it looks like they are some some of those who don't care much about this - either some artists would never have such big streams on week of release).

[MadNuno]

France Singles Chart:

139 (125) 14 Frozen Remix

Run Chart: 190 - 140 - 102 - 81 - 97 - 64 - 64 - 66 - 72 - 73 -72 - 93 - 125 - 139

This time it feels that "Frozen" is already on the way out from France Charts... probably in a couple of weeks or so.

I think this may have been her last "Frozen" Sickick remix release (not sure...).

The new remixes helped to increase a bit the sales and streams but don't seem to make much of difference.

[jjavier1978]

Streams on Spotify 29/05/2022

Frozen (Sickick Remix) 66,529,688 (+270,031)

Fireboy DML Version 4,874,219 (+32,106)

070 Shake Version 4,100,056 (+33,050)

Frozen On Fire 680,821 (+30,838)

Total 366,025 Daily Streams